Covid Lockdowns And Polyvagal Theory

The past lockdowns, mask , social distancing , fear of pathogen has really put people on to harmful situation in healthwise . our bodys are scanning cues from around us all the time, it does that without we noticing it....it`s very old evolutionary mechanism and works auto mode via nervous system .

I strugle to explain this .

Anyway, so as the society / environment start insert something which pull out us from safe zone to other, we might sense danger ,fear...like the covid fear porn, lockdowns, mask ,social distancing our bodys usually reacts somehow. It can be the fight-or flight response , or if the triggering event continues longer, we might jump to next level , with dorsal vagal which means immobilisation,freeze , I cant , collapse, shutdown etc..


This might go to bad loop , people can get stuck to that Dorsal Vagal circuit activation . So think last few years, what`s it`s been like ? The society engage different impulses that can cause our bodys to constantly read cues about danger, fear around us , which then makes the normalization more difficult .




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What is the Polyvagal Theory?


There is so much web pages , youtube video about Polyvagal Theory , Dorsal Vagal shutdown that i dont know what to add here, i am sure everyone can find a lot of them with few clicks , and the main topic here is more to comprehend the harmfull effects of all covid related things ,
since knowing this and ourselves can help is to heal , hopefully..and return to more normal state : social engagement state .

We simply can not afford any harmfull covid measures , lockdown, mask etc...our bodys react with all that crap, and can put us to danger because our nervous system reacts with negative cues like it or not, it works by that way.



This is Your Vagus Nerve on Lockdown

Polyvagal Theory and Trauma

Polyvagal Theory and How It Relates to Social Cues

Anatomy of a Freeze – Or Dorsal Vagal Shutdown


Which then leads to next question....

Are the people behind the lockdowns, mask , social distancing actually fully aware of Polyvagal Theory , Dorsal Vagal shutdown and are actually knowing that continued fear, stress etc cause this damage state to people ? It might sound like conspiracy theory i admit And this effects also children of cource .


The road to better us, me is through more social engagement etc , and not the other way round . We should all remember to live fully , with social interactions etc .


If anyone have something add to this please do , this is quite new thing to me also .

Sometimes I wonder if politicians actually saught the advice of social psychologists when they followed the medical advice of the immunologists and other medical professionals not in the social psychology field.

At this point, however, there can be no doubt of the stress, anxiety and trauma lockdowns and subsequent negative impacts and isolation have had on us all - and may still have on some people.

We no longer have lockdowns because this initial solution to the pandemic AT THE BEGINNING proved to cause too much harm in many areas.

Lockdowns are harmful - yes; wearing masks are harmful - not in my opinion.

As we no longer will have lockdowns (never say never) due to experience, the only thing we all have to do now is to learn how to relax, socialize better, be kinder to one another, and above all educate yourself on that which you fear.

I wonder if they study lockdowns in prison. I believe in the Philippines and Thailand they have one hour of dancing? Is that true?

a reply to: musicismagic


I have never heard having dancing in prison.....


It is form of social interaction.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: musicismagic


I have never heard having dancing in prison.....


It is form of social interaction.

There's a youtube video on it. I believe that is how I heard/seen it.

a reply to: quintessentone


I see people still wearing mask when i go shopping, they look fearfull.....so the wrong perception or thought is boosted too much, to level where it can actually hurt their health.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: quintessentone


I see people still wearing mask when i go shopping, they look fearfull.....so the wrong perception or thought is boosted too much, to level where it can actually hurt their health.

I would have thought that putting on a mask alleviates fear of getting whatever is flying around in the air out there.

a reply to: quintessentone

It was gamed long before people started getting sick...

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Then vaccine "hesitancy" messaging was also gamed early on.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The psychos from the CIA in the 60s who screwed people all up with Mind Control ala' MK Ultra got nothing on this current bunch. The really sad part is, many (many of YOU on here as well) have bit on one, or all of these messages, and subjugated themselves, their/your autonomy, and their/your freedom to Dr. Fauci and his merry band of evil mother****ers.

Wakey wakey...

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Other: Embarrassment message
Other: Anger message
Other: Trust in science message
Other: Not bravery message

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Guilt message
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Embarrassment message
1/15 of the sample will be assigned to this message. The message is about the danger that COVID-19 presents to the health of one's family and community. The best way to protect them is by getting vaccinated and by working together to make sure that enough people get vaccinated. Then it asks the participant to imagine the embarrassment they will feel if they don't get vaccinated and spread the disease.

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a reply to: quintessentone


There is known mechanism, mask induce fear by effecting oxygen and carbon dioxide levels.

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link 2

My old thread :


Heightened fear from wearing face mask

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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: quintessentone


There is known mechanism, mask induce fear by effecting oxygen and carbon dioxide levels.

link 1

link 2

This is not the first time in history that people started wearing masks. I don't argue about the CO2 findings but I only wear a mask to do quick shopping sprees and only if and when the viral cases have risen above certain levels. And when I work, infrequently, I have to wear a mask intermittently during the day and I have no issue with it, although it is not the N95. I would think that mask would cause issues.

What are the hospital workers wearing now? They have to wear masks and or face shields for an entire work shift, which for some is extremely long hours, why aren't they exhibiting these extreme issues?

a reply to: Kenzo

Quarantines for the infected is what should have been used and has been used throughout medical history

Lockdowns were CROCK from the start, and they knew it.

Never used in all of human medical history - invented by the Communist party of China for POLITICAL purposes - Lord knows that they are "medical" experts

a reply to: quintessentone


No reason to wear mask.

1. The mask used for covid, even N95 wont help with viral size particles.

2. Mask are dangerous to users, mold, bacteria can cause infection , including in lungs.

Hospitals have safety protocols, which i understand partly, like that surgeons keep mask when they do surgical operations, but they dont keep the mask because viruses, but because to prevent spipts etc flying, or sweat dropping or bacteria .....

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: quintessentone


No reason to wear mask.

1. The mask used for covid, even N95 wont help with viral size particles.

2. Mask are dangerous to users, mold, bacteria can cause infection , including in lungs.

Hospitals have safety protocols, which i understand partly, like that surgeons keep mask when they do surgical operations, but they dont keep the mask because viruses, but because to prevent spipts etc flying, or sweat dropping or bacteria .....

Masks do help if nothing else they cut down on the viral load, which is a big deal.

a reply to: M5xaz

Did quarantines help with Spanish flu ?


I remember seeing studys, where they do every possible trick to get the infection spread then from sick to healthy, but failed . I posted it in ATS also, but i dont remember where/date .

a reply to: Kenzo

Social conditioning?

You mean like a bunch of people saying that the government is out to get us, that the MSM can't be trusted, and that everything that anyone in authority does to try to help us is really part of some nefarious plot to control us?

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: M5xaz

I remember seeing studys,

To bad you don't have a link to them, huh.

a reply to: quintessentone

Mask dont prevent/help......it's pseudoscience to claim mask work with covid.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: quintessentone

Mask dont prevent/help......it's pseudoscience to claim mask work with covid.

I don't consider the Mayo Clinic as being pseudo anything.

a reply to: Kenzo

The mask used for covid, even N95 wont help with viral size particles

No, but they do help with the much larger water droplets carry the virus particles. Especially the larger particles from deeper in the lungs, where the OG covid liked to hang out.

Mask are dangerous to users, mold, bacteria can cause infection , including in lungs.

I've heard the exact same argument used against tampons (Except not with your lungs, of course, at least if you use them properly that it). It turns out that the solution for both is simply to change them regularly. In fact, the maximum recommended wear time is often printer on the side of the box. I a proper respirator style make with a dual filter system. It has a clear note on the packaging saying that they're only good for a maximum of 8 hours each.

but they dont keep the mask because viruses, but because to prevent spipts etc flying

Like ... when somebody with covid coughs?

I am sick of this trolling.


Certain toxic individuals in ATS jump to every threat to just cause disturbance , it's the modus operandi with some here. Every subject that somehow counter official narrative is attacked .