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a reply to: Justoneman

The "mushroom" is only the fruiting body of the fungus. The fugus lives underground. It looks similar to fine cotton. It transfers food to plants roots by breaking down elements that the roots can absorb/take in.

It is neither animal nor vegetable.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Justoneman

Shrooms are very intriguing organisms.
Appart from their variety each type having a very unique biochemistry, producing very complex molecules that have a variety of effect, their spores are so resistant, they can even survive space. Perfect candidate for the panspermia thoery.
They also are the biggest organism on earth, with their mycelium spanning for many miles, enabling communication between the trees and facilitating the exchange of nutrients.
When you consider their hallucinogenic effects and the very comon sentiment of being lead by a higher force, while under their influence, it begs the question if they might be more than mere mushrooms.

Maybe they are the aliens here to help us? Or maybe it's just a biochemical interstellar smart phone?

Things that manifest with similar patterns usually have somethings in comon. So what's the comon thread between mushrooms and it's atomic cloud?

Most fungi are not shaped as a traditional Mushroom. However, it is a strange coincidence that the fungi shaped as a mushroom in Chernobyl eats radioactive matter and makes it harmless. That is so surreal to me. It speaks of the "hidden hand of the creator" we used to talk about in my childhood studies that is taboo to discuss today. Good is bad and bad is good for many of the unawake "woke" people.

That's not exactly true. The radioactive products go somewhere - in this case, into mushrooms - which show higher levels of Cs 137 to this day. Pigments like melanin and chlorophyll are energy harvesters. That's the reason why they pick up so much radioactive material. Mushrooms DO NOT make radiation harmless.

People just outside the exclusion zone who depend on forests for work, food, fuel, and other resources pay some of the costs for this environmental service. Many continue to live in areas with cesium-137 soil concentrations greater than 37 kBq/m2. They also continue to eat mushrooms, berries, and other local forest foods despite government restrictions and campaigns warning of the dangers.10 Mushrooms, the region’s most iconic product, build up especially high concentrations of radioactive cesium.17 Cesium-137 content in the majority of edible mushrooms in forest litter decreased by 20–30% between 2005 and 2010. But among species whose feeding networks (mycelia) reach deeper into the soil, the amount of cesium-137 increased during the same period as radionuclides migrated into deeper soil layers.15 In 2006 radioactivity in milk still exceeded permissible levels in 40 communities where cows grazed on grass contaminated by cesium-137.4,18

a reply to: Mandroid7

Good to see you and great post Mandroid.

Well, I can see that for the final cleansing of the area they don't but they do participate in the Mother nature cleansing in the long run.

The bottom line is that energy is sequestered for another process. Speeding along the depletion. The key concept here for this thread is "there is a path to study that shows promise". What do you think happened at ground zero for the people in Nagasaki or Hiroshima that the area was repopulated in a relatively short time period? Something that saved thousands of years of contamination had to occur. The mechanisms are there for us to study and exploit for good reasons like cleaning up a spill.

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Justoneman

Shrooms are very intriguing organisms.
Appart from their variety each type having a very unique biochemistry, producing very complex molecules that have a variety of effect, their spores are so resistant, they can even survive space. Perfect candidate for the panspermia thoery.
They also are the biggest organism on earth, with their mycelium spanning for many miles, enabling communication between the trees and facilitating the exchange of nutrients.
When you consider their hallucinogenic effects and the very comon sentiment of being lead by a higher force, while under their influence, it begs the question if they might be more than mere mushrooms.

Maybe they are the aliens here to help us? Or maybe it's just a biochemical interstellar smart phone?

Things that manifest with similar patterns usually have somethings in comon. So what's the comon thread between mushrooms and it's atomic cloud?

Most fungi are not shaped as a traditional Mushroom. However, it is a strange coincidence that the fungi shaped as a mushroom in Chernobyl eats radioactive matter and makes it harmless. That is so surreal to me. It speaks of the "hidden hand of the creator" we used to talk about in my childhood studies that is taboo to discuss today. Good is bad and bad is good for many of the unawake "woke" people.

That's not exactly true. The radioactive products go somewhere - in this case, into mushrooms - which show higher levels of Cs 137 to this day. Pigments like melanin and chlorophyll are energy harvesters. That's the reason why they pick up so much radioactive material. Mushrooms DO NOT make radiation harmless.

People just outside the exclusion zone who depend on forests for work, food, fuel, and other resources pay some of the costs for this environmental service. Many continue to live in areas with cesium-137 soil concentrations greater than 37 kBq/m2. They also continue to eat mushrooms, berries, and other local forest foods despite government restrictions and campaigns warning of the dangers.10 Mushrooms, the region’s most iconic product, build up especially high concentrations of radioactive cesium.17 Cesium-137 content in the majority of edible mushrooms in forest litter decreased by 20–30% between 2005 and 2010. But among species whose feeding networks (mycelia) reach deeper into the soil, the amount of cesium-137 increased during the same period as radionuclides migrated into deeper soil layers.15 In 2006 radioactivity in milk still exceeded permissible levels in 40 communities where cows grazed on grass contaminated by cesium-137.4,18

a reply to: blackcrowe

It's also the prime decomposing agent of all organic mass, without them we would suffocate under the amount of organic matter.

a reply to: Justoneman

That may be true, but the last news I have seen is that the South American rainforests are still disappearing at alarming rates even now.

a reply to: Terpene

Exactly. It breaks down the smallest elements of organic matter into usable food that the roots of plants etc can absorb. Otherwise. Even the smallest organic matter is too large for the roots to take up/absorb as nutrients.

Thanks Terpene.

There is a great documentary on Netflix called "Fantastic Fungi".

originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: Justoneman

That may be true, but the last news I have seen is that the South American rainforests are still disappearing at alarming rates even now.

They are under duress but not all is bad. S American farmers are clearing land for food and cattle. There have been a lot of reforestation in N America and other places. S America is not so far along with the plan, but they have a right to grow their own food and live as they wish. They do need to be stewards of the land. Management is the key there.

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Terpene that is a nice find thank you!

originally posted by: Justoneman
Well, I can see that for the final cleansing of the area they don't but they do participate in the Mother nature cleansing in the long run.

The bottom line is that energy is sequestered for another process. Speeding along the depletion. The key concept here for this thread is "there is a path to study that shows promise". What do you think happened at ground zero for the people in Nagasaki or Hiroshima that the area was repopulated in a relatively short time period? Something that saved thousands of years of contamination had to occur. The mechanisms are there for us to study and exploit for good reasons like cleaning up a spill.

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Justoneman

Shrooms are very intriguing organisms.
Appart from their variety each type having a very unique biochemistry, producing very complex molecules that have a variety of effect, their spores are so resistant, they can even survive space. Perfect candidate for the panspermia thoery.
They also are the biggest organism on earth, with their mycelium spanning for many miles, enabling communication between the trees and facilitating the exchange of nutrients.
When you consider their hallucinogenic effects and the very comon sentiment of being lead by a higher force, while under their influence, it begs the question if they might be more than mere mushrooms.

Maybe they are the aliens here to help us? Or maybe it's just a biochemical interstellar smart phone?

Things that manifest with similar patterns usually have somethings in comon. So what's the comon thread between mushrooms and it's atomic cloud?

Most fungi are not shaped as a traditional Mushroom. However, it is a strange coincidence that the fungi shaped as a mushroom in Chernobyl eats radioactive matter and makes it harmless. That is so surreal to me. It speaks of the "hidden hand of the creator" we used to talk about in my childhood studies that is taboo to discuss today. Good is bad and bad is good for many of the unawake "woke" people.

That's not exactly true. The radioactive products go somewhere - in this case, into mushrooms - which show higher levels of Cs 137 to this day. Pigments like melanin and chlorophyll are energy harvesters. That's the reason why they pick up so much radioactive material. Mushrooms DO NOT make radiation harmless.

People just outside the exclusion zone who depend on forests for work, food, fuel, and other resources pay some of the costs for this environmental service. Many continue to live in areas with cesium-137 soil concentrations greater than 37 kBq/m2. They also continue to eat mushrooms, berries, and other local forest foods despite government restrictions and campaigns warning of the dangers.10 Mushrooms, the region’s most iconic product, build up especially high concentrations of radioactive cesium.17 Cesium-137 content in the majority of edible mushrooms in forest litter decreased by 20–30% between 2005 and 2010. But among species whose feeding networks (mycelia) reach deeper into the soil, the amount of cesium-137 increased during the same period as radionuclides migrated into deeper soil layers.15 In 2006 radioactivity in milk still exceeded permissible levels in 40 communities where cows grazed on grass contaminated by cesium-137.4,18

Fungi are ubiquitous. They're airborne, seaborne, deep in the soil, on top of the soil. And you think fungi are a radiation remediation solution? It's a nightmare. You can't make this up. It's the stuff for a scifi novel - or it could be real.

The good news is that your outlook gives me hope that life is resilient enough to handle climate change. Although it might look a bit different

originally posted by: darkbake
The good news is that your outlook gives me hope that life is resilient enough to handle climate change. Although it might look a bit different

Thank you. Discussions like this are positive and filled with hope there is a path out of at least some of our messes we humans make. I also like the fact that the Earth is ready for whatever we do. It is our own habitat that suffers, not the Earth. Selfishly we should guard our habitat and not selfishly destroy it. But we have to be careful to find a balance between the needs of humans and the needs to protect our habitat so we and the animals can live side by side.

As someone who has dabbled in mycology, I'd say fungi could play a huge roll in mankind's progression.

Mushrooms that eat oil spills.
Mushrooms that eat plastic contaminants.
Mushrooms that clear radiation.
Mycelium insulation and building materials.
Mushrooms as a possible Alzheimer's treatment.
Mushrooms as a natural antidepressant.
Mycelium growth to better plot out more efficient urban transport systems.

Mycelium can extend for hundreds or even thousands of miles if they are stretched end to end but since they are so compactly connected, it can be possible to find 200 kilometers worth of organic material in a single kilogram of soil.

The mycelial network has more connections than our brain’s neural pathways and works much like our brains, by using electrical impulses and electrolytes.

There's a good chance that mushrooms aren't even of this world. Mushroom spores are electron dense and can survive in the vacuum of space. Panspermia is a definite possibility.

Mushrooms may even be the philosopher's stone.
In Ethan A Hitchcock's 1857 study, Remarks Upon Alchemy, it is noted:

“the Secret of our Stone…shall shew itself forth as though it bloomed sweetly upon the dunghill. And if you shall ask me what it resembles – I shall say to you that it lives and is to be found in the likeness and form of many things in Nature. For it can be as the Moon as has been said – If they say the Moon is blue, we must believe that it is true. – But this only if molested, for the colour of the Moon is white in its naturalistic State.”

If I were smart enough, I would use mycelium for the basis of wet ware. Wetware is a term drawn from the computer related idea of hardware or software, but applied to biological life forms. Basically using mycelium as organic software and creating the "brain" for cyborg technology.

Mushrooms are an untapped resource to say the least.

a reply to: CloneFarm1000

I'd say fungi could play a huge roll in mankind's progression.

we've been tripping on shrooms for a looooooong time, there is a good possibility some of the more complex thinking processes could have been kicked off by psychedelic experiences. It is also one of the things that might have fostered language, as you'd have an experience that is not of this world, you can't point a finger to the world around you. if you wanted to share these experiences, you'd have to paint or talk.

a reply to: Terpene

Thanks for the short video Terpene.

They are truly magic.

a reply to: Justoneman

You're all very welcome, I really recommend the documentary, it's quite well done.

a reply to: Justoneman

I was looking in the wrong direction. the thing was called li and it refers to the underlying reason and order of nature as reflected in its organic forms...


wiki link

a reply to: Justoneman

Oil spills are cleaned up by Microbes

Oil wells thought to be drained are found 10 years later to be once again full of oil

It's all a big lie!

originally posted by: CloneFarm1000

If I were smart enough, I would use mycelium for the basis of wet ware. Wetware is a term drawn from the computer related idea of hardware or software, but applied to biological life forms. Basically using mycelium as organic software and creating the "brain" for cyborg technology.

Mushrooms are an untapped resource to say the least.

Do you have any links for any research being conducted in this direction? I've never heard of anything about that, and it would make an excellent thread on its own.

a reply to: CloneFarm1000

I saw another Physics.org site article a week or so ago about using mushroom as the substrate to hold the motherboard IIRC. Using a thin sheet of fungi from some mushroom it would last 10-20 years. A PC motherboard's life expectancy today is low just on being out of date alone. This would make it cheaper to cool the chips and maintain data. I am not a computer engineer I do have some concept of how it works but didn't zero in on the details other than using a fungi.