Catholic leader blasts human rights court for absolving feminist who 'aborted' Jesus on altar 'No le

Re:
A feminist who interrupted a Catholic Mass while topless
and 'aborted' Jesus on the altar before urinating on the floor.
The church's priest filed a legal complaint against her (Bouton)
She was temporarily sentenced and ordered to pay
the church €2,000.
UNTIL *!*
The European Court of Human Rights high court said
she was merely engaged in freedom of expression,
and should never have been prosecuted.
The European Court now has ordered the French courts to
pay her more than $9,500 in damages, costs, and expenses.

link
www.foxnews.com...



" merely engaged in freedom of expression"
Then, If anything . . .
the Canadian Truckers Protesters should
not have been prosecuted,
but be compensated and reimbursed.
Law can be such a horses @ss.
(when the politicians are in their pockets)


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Certainly sounds like one of the more interesting church services. A lot more eventful than the ones I used to get dragged to thats for sure.

I envy this woman. I wish I could make money out of public urination. Though it was probably a lot more work than it sounds since the ECHR and French High Court were involved.

a reply to: Ohanka

If a man did it he would surely be arrested for exposing his genitalia to man, women, and child.

This sort of sick demented behavior can not be allowed to continue.
I mean both the mentally ill feminist and the judge/court that rewarded this disgusting act.
A person that would do such a thing should not be free to roam the streets. This type of mental condition is dangerous!

Wonder what the ruling would've been if this happened in a mosque.

a reply to: abe froman

Probably wouldn't have been a ruling because the person doing this would have been chased out before she even had a chance. Unless the ruling was in the favor of the sick woman because the worshippers physically assaulted her.

a reply to: ToneDeaf

Then, is it OK to do such a stunt in a Mosque ?
Or a Buddist temple ?
Or a Hindu shrine ?
Or a synagogue ?


Oooh, right, the infamous "that's different, and the answer is NO"

Of course the answer is no. Their comminities are nowhere NEAR as apathetic as ours are.a reply to: M5xaz

a reply to: ToneDeaf

I can imagine her mother and father must be so proud.

Sooo? Why isn’t this act hate speech. To bad she doesn’t try something similar at a mosque…

a reply to: M5xaz

She should do them next.

Muslims it seems have even a thinner skin than Catholics. Ought to be entertaining.

a reply to: ToneDeaf

The ECH is way out of line on this one.

Persecution of a Faith, outrage of public decency, attack upon innocent people in a vile and disgusting manner.

It was NOT her human right to desecrate a Church and by the sound of things she hardly qualifies as a human being given her behaviour.

Vile woman and VILER Judges.


BUT

It sounds like she need's mental help and the fine may have been inappropriate given her obviously ill mind.


It is possible there were other extenuating circumstances though of which we are not aware.

Either way she had no right to attack the Christian faith and her actions were not only against Catholic's but would outrage all Christians that heard of it though forgiveness and redemption are the word's here not punishment, but she has to learn that herself.

Just maybe the Judges were thinking along these lines and if so, I apologize for referring to them as vile, but they really must realize that Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world and even here in western Europe many Christians are persecuted for their faith's, excluded in the name of diversity for OTHER faith's and otherwise diminished in their right's.

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: M5xaz

She should do them next.

Muslims it seems have even a thinner skin than Catholics. Ought to be entertaining.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Christianity is most certainly not persecuted in Western Europe. I’m not sure how you can come to such a conclusion.

Being a Christian in the UK is considered 'weird' by 90% of the adult population, and yes, there is associated persecution, though it tends to involve exclusion & mockery (& vandalism of property) rather than anything physical.

Of course, many Christians don't do themselves (or the rest of us) any favours by their extreme 'evangelism' (harassment) & their associated deluded belief that if you aren't a believer, then God will throw you into Hell for all eternity.

As if God were somehow less capable of forgiveness than us humans.

I've said it before & I will say it again - God is far more merciful than many/most Christians give Him credit for. The God I came to know through my radical onset of interactive faith in the early 2000's, is an incredible, ultra-phenomenal power & a truly wonderful personality, not just an impersonal 'force'. He is beyond vast in extent & majesty, thoroughly overwhelming in grace & forgiveness. He demonstrates love which outweighs the Earth, granting peace which outlasts the Ages. He is above all, in all, through all - "In Him we live, move & have our being.."

Godspeed ATS.

FITO.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

The UK also has a state religion. A christian one at that. It also has taxpayer-funded schools that are run by religious foundations. Churches operate largely unmolested and (based on personal experience on it) you can still subject a captive and irritated audience to fire and brimstone dogma on the London underground. Or any other public space really.

I don’t think widespread irreligiosity constitutes persecution.

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: LABTECH767

Christianity is most certainly not persecuted in Western Europe. I’m not sure how you can come to such a conclusion.

It is a long and often hidden persecution and sometimes it is very open.

Mostly it is dismissing Christians as idiots such as by the French authority's for more than a century after the French revolution EVEN when their emperors (heirs of Napoleons empire) were devout and faithful Christians, this was often perpetrated by the often extremely corrupt and greedy republicans who saw the Church as a direct threat to their often, Masonic (or sects therein that were within that brotherhood - it is not an indictment of all masons many of whom have actually been devout Christians and put their faith before their membership of that sect - for the Catholics among them this often meant renouncing there masonic membership as otherwise they were excommunicated by papal decree even if they hid it making there confessions useless etc - but there has been a very long hidden movement within their guild turned secret sect of anti-Christians and anti-Church members also being within that brotherhood that began actually despite their own claims as a German FREE men MASON's Guild in Germany which was proudly home to builders of Cathedrals at that time IN Germany and earned a royal patron when a crown prince became an honorary member - and of course head of the guild - making it then fashionable for all manner of the upper class and the aspiring class to then want to join bringing with them some decidedly unchristian baggage along the way, later the Illuminate who grew out of a break away sect called the Rosicrucian's which was both a break away and a competitor with the now Gnostic masonry corrupted them further but long story needless to say they are not who most members think they are) plotted return of France to a republic.

It is also notable within educational institutions where Christianity is treated as if it were a superstition and often Christian scientists despite being very bit as competent as their atheist and OTHER RELIGION peers have to hide their faith in order to advance in their careers.

In society Christians are seen as old fashioned and Christian morality is often seen as curtailing the freedom of generations who now seek their religious experience by taking drugs and see belief in an afterlife and a God who judges as curtailing there right to do bad things and get away with them.

Persecution of Christianity in Europe goes hand in hand with social, moral and national decay, some nations like Poland etc are more PRO Christian however while others have pushed against Christianity and persecuted it using rights for those that follow other ALIEN religions as an excuse to denigrate Christianity.

Sometimes even following your faith as a Christian can lead you to be forced to break the new laws that have been enacted during this period of covert persecution and anti-Christian authoritarianism.
www.breitbart.com...
waystofaith.net...

It is an ongoing and growing problem that is ever more profound.

Christians are not all GOOD Christians and somewhere there will be a backlash, it is growing and when it explodes you will hear about it as if it were a bunch of religious extremists when in fact it will simply be people finally fighting back.

a reply to: ToneDeaf

Try burning a Koran.

a reply to: LABTECH767

So, in effect your argument is that people no longer adhering to strict Christian morality, and society as a whole being more accepting of this, constitutes persecution?

I cannot speak to the scientific world but as I understand it it is not a field that contains a large amount of believers, but those who do believe seem to do ok. They might be regarded as a little odd by their co-workers. Probably have friendly enough discussions about it at lunch. Methinks the issue comes when the apparent “scientist” is attempting to use science as a way to peddle their religion in ways that are at odds with observable reality. I can easily see how this would cause consternation. Not unlike progressives using every medium under the sun to peddle their ideology that has nothing to do with the subject matter.

You’d get on well with the Islamists in Europe. They seem to be under the impression that the state not imposing barbaric 6th century Sharia on the entire populace somehow constitutes persecution. They also seem to believe that ignoring them and their ridiculous demands is an act of Racism.

a reply to: Ohanka

In Finland and this is a growing problem as Christian belief becomes incompatible with new laws and new interpretations of OLD laws throughout Europe.


In the rest of Europe laws brought in to protect against ISLAMIC extremism are now being used to persecute Christian's as well.
www.theguardian.com...

But in much of the world it is far grimmer, Christians are being butchered, raped, burned alive and enslaved often in the name of Religions such as Islam the biggest persecutor of Christians and also Hinduism were Hindu Extremists target and commit terrible crimes against the Christian minority of India and in other places such as China where it is oppressed in the name of their Political ideology and a censored and unrecognizable state sponsored form only is allowed that is actually NOT Christianity and even has a completely alien bible with lies and alterations lacing it that any Christian with freedom would find completely blasphemous.

When a nation loses its core religion and values it then FALL's, religion is the glue that held society together for generations and the vacuum created by this Neo Liberal anti-Christian experiment in trying to create a globalism and one world - TINY and POWERLESS - government answerable only to the corporations and the elite as is there plan has created instead social decay and is destroying the spiritual and national identity of most western Europeans as it is foisted onto them and the forced inclusion of Alien religions such as Islam and Hinduism often given preferential treatment throughout much of Europe despite their members being the minority is creating a chaos and destroying the very foundation of European society.

The results over the next century are sure to be catastrophic.

Return to Faith would restore the Glue that hold society together, restore the moral integrity of the populace and restore true democracy in the process which is not despite the claims of the neo liberal's SMALL government but LARGE Government albeit Large Government with a multi-party spectrum and free elections.

The move to Small (Powerless and undemocratic) government is to free up the ELITE to have control and to make Governance something they can always keep in their pocket simple as that and the majority of the Elite either do not have a faith or are in the pocket of the OTHER Guy and have sold their souls both metaphorically and also in a very real sense for their own short term and long-term greed for power.