The question that hasn't been asked...

originally posted by: NikeKlogsSwoosh

Hi ZERO Hows 17.5 Million

FLORIDA Fist Bump?!

Need context...lol

a reply to: Xtrozero

So you guys can read?! I would say google keywords that I have posted If anything hits why dosen't the FBI NSA NAVY NASA or any other department do there jobs other than DICE that seemed to think weapons were being used on me?!

originally posted by: shaemac
Total fail.

Totally opinion.
Nobody else's fault if you like some thought-experiments, but don't like others.

That is not even a plausible situation.

What if the puppy had deworming drugs in their system, was well-known to freely deposit feces and urine on innocent peoples rugs, and once stuck their ice-cold nose up against a pregnant woman's belly ?

The one offered up by the OP.

The one what ?

In fact, more than likely, absolutely true.

It's nice to see all those cool words in one short sentence, but unfortunately, the intended meaning escapes me.

What is a likely fact ?
What is likely to be absolutely true ?
How do "fact", "likely", "absolutely", and "true" work together in that salad ?

Why do people hate puppies so much ?

Puppy-Lives-Matter™ !!!

a reply to: MrBlaq

Your response was very narrow minded. The concept of drug pushers is not new. The method is to coerce, trick, or just plain dose someone to get them addicted. Once they are hooked the price becomes the focus. It does not require kidnapping, just an opportunity to get someone hooked on a highly addictive drug that can then be exploited for profit.

You make a point to highlight the young blacks killed by cops. Yet you do not delineate between those that were killed unjustly and those killed in self defense. No one believe that every single person killed by a cop was completely innocent and did nothing to bring about his own demise. And you also conveniently ignored the number of young whites killed by cops.

You also completely missed the fact that there were four cops involved in floyds death and they were four different races. Your logic seems to indicate that anyone who kills a black person, regardless of their race or nationality, is automatically a racist. That is blatantly false. This is the narrative that forces the ambiguity to continue.

a reply to: Vroomfondel


Speaking of drug pushers has anyone got the cre·den·tial's to know what fentanyl is being used for being that it's synthetic and al·leg·ed·ly when you k hole you DIE?!

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: ketsuko

For one, its literally called colombus day. The americas would have been discovered sooner or later. And probably conquered and colonized regardless of colombus.

"Discovery of a new world" means europians discovered a continent already inhabitated by people. In fact, americas was much more thriving than originally thought. Colombus' legacy is probably most prevelant in the amount of destruction and disease he brought to the Americas.

So its insulting to any native americans to give a mass murder a holiday just because he "discovered" a place in which civilization already thrived.

I am sorry, but his is one of the dumbest things I have seen in a long time. You keep talking about history as if you know it well. It is obvious you know nothing of history. Here is a quick lesson for you on Columbus day.

We do not celebrate Columbus day in this country to celebrate the discovery of the Americas. Columbus day was a peace offering by the US government to Italy to prevent a war. Why was it necessary? It was a response to the worst single lynching in the entire history of the United States.

On March 14th of 1891, 11 Italian Americans were murdered in cold blood in Louisiana. They were being held for suspicion of murder. After the trial, which resulted in 6 not guiltys and three mistrials, a crowd of angry locals broke into the armory, stole weapons, broke the men out of jail and took along some others who had not been tried or even accused of the crimes. The bodies were riddled with gunfire, some were then hung, and all were literally ripped apart so people could keep souvenirs of the event. The mob was comprised of both black and white people. It was literally the most gruesome and worst single event of lynching in US history.

The lynch mob, including some of the cities most prominent people, went unpunished when the grand jury determined that the killers could not be identified. Worse yet, the identity of the person who committed the murder that started all of this was also never identified. The mob didn't even know if they had the right people, and some of the victims were not even related to the original murder in any way.

Italy loudly denounced the entire event and demanded justice, and threatened war if the guilty were not punished. The men were victims of anti-immigrant racism and blamed for "taking American jobs" etc. The press at the time simply called it "a work of vengeance". No one was ever charged for the lynching. Italy demanded reparations for the deaths. The US eventually paid the sum of $2,111.90 to the families of the victims. This was seen as adding insult to injury in the eyes of Italy.

As part of a wider effort to reduce tensions between the US, Italy, and Italian Americans, President Harris declared the first Columbus day to celebrate the 400th anniversary of his famous trip.

Columbus day is not a day to celebrate a monster of a man. It is a day to apologize for the hundreds of monsters who brutally murdered and dismembered eleven Italian men in the worst act of mob violence/lynching in this nations history.

Learn the facts before you start calling people out for being monsters. The real monsters are much closer to home than you think.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

He had 7x the lethal amount in his blood stream, he had already killed himself, his body just hadn't caught up to the fact yet.

The fact that he was a drug dealer who had also been in armed robberies where he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach negates any sympathy he should have received.

He was a piece of human garbage and the world is a better place without him in it.

Accurate.

I don’t support how the police handled this. I also think it’s important to consider policing in general as officers I have known are truly good, hardworking people who care for their communities. There are bad apples in every lot, on any subject, and those people should be disciplined accordingly.

But, judging by the content of Mr. Floyd’s character and documented behavior, society is almost certainly better off with him either being incarcerated or deceased. We just happened to get the latter.

a reply to: VulcanWerks


Im humbled to see that your so willing to stick up for the good ones?!

Lets just hope they can still do there jobs when there is so much bad in the AIR?!

a reply to: CryHavoc
I love the ignorance and disconnect shown in this thread…


Ps. Except the op.

originally posted by: Somethingsamiss
a reply to: CryHavoc
I love the ignorance and disconnect shown in this thread

Could you be more specific, please?

I though the discussion was definitely getting everyone's opinion. I thought even the Columbus tangent seemed on-topic in a way.

Some of the conversations I've had over the last couple of days were dismaying, tho.

I've talked to at least one person who makes me think that if Jeffery Dahmer was Black and Ate their Kid for dinner, they would be like:

"That's ok. Jeffery's just hungry because he's Oppressed!"

Scary.

Please keep the conversation going, tho. I'd like to see what everyone has to say.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Thanks for the info but still unneeded holiday with a momster as the poster child. Indigenous people's day sounds better. Interesting history though.

Do italians really wamt colombus as the apologetic symbol of past crimes.

And if we're talking about murder, how about the genocide of native americans? How does colombus day help to apologize fir that?

Maybe italian american day or indigenous people's dsy. Colombus day may not be about colombus but he is still celebrated as a biproduct. Which he shouldnt be.

a reply to: CptGreenTea

I'm really amazed at how many liberal people feel this way about Christopher Columbus. I would have expected them to be clamoring that a statue of him be erected in the middle of Washington DC. After all, Columbus was the greatest liberal who ever lived.

Think about it: He left not knowing where he was going, when he got there he didn't know where he was, when he got back he didn't know where he had been, he still started a viral movement that destroyed cultures, and he did it all using someone else's money! How do you ever top that?



But more to the thread, it is foolhardy to try to interpret historical events in the light of modern society. Despite all the evil that he did (the vast majority unknowingly), Columbus was a celebrated explorer in his day and a hero to many at that time. People didn't know about viruses and diseases like they do today, so while the elimination of so many tribes via disease was and is a tragedy, it was not an intentional tragedy. We didn't realize just how advanced many of the tribes were either, and we have much blood on our hands from how they were treated; but that blood is on the hands of those who mistreated the natives. Columbus wasn't here long enough or often enough to do a lot of that. The colonists who came later bear that responsibility, and removing Columbus from history will not help that in the least.

I get it; it's easy to hate people and hard to try to understand them. But it's also much more futile. That hate will burn you up from the inside and never once touch the ones you hate.

TheRedneck

a reply to: CryHavoc

I never answered your question but I guess I'll interpret it in this way.

Did I ever know George Floyd and Would I care if I had no interaction with him in my life other than through media?!

Is this how you would interpret this?!

Isn't it obvious no one cares otherwise why would this be the question no one asked?!

Or he got a pay grade and is working in Afghanistan right now with his Family?!

Sounds Crazy Right?!



Other thoughts where is your holiday analysis on the original OP?

Are you tryen to say people that lived in Minneapolis are praying on our Children?!
I wonder what clearance you would need for that?!

Chris's time was way b4 that!

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Huh?

how does an unarmed man shoot at cops? Is that what the media is saying about that guy? That he was unarmed?

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: CryHavoc
The fact is and remains that all around the world, not only in the US, people of different color are still not treated equally.

Let's not make this too simple, shall we?

There are poor people, black/white/yellow/etc, that are treated like # everyday by wealthier black/white/yellow/etc people. There are how many black people killed by black people everyday? More or less than black people killed by white people and vice-verse?

So let's not be a parrot and keep saying buzzwords to seem like we're part of the cool kids club and know what's going on when in reality, it's a little more complex then, different colored people get shafted by white people.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: CryHavoc

Every single one of his drug-clients is 'someone's kid'.

To answer your first question, it wouldn't matter what color his skin was, if someone harms my daughter I'd wish the worst upon him.

Are those two questions really relevant in this case?
The fact is and remains that all around the world, not only in the US, people of different color are still not treated equally.

You are exactly right. Straight, White, Religious, Family-oriented, Non drug-addicted humans are considered aberrant in today's society and avoided and criticized at all costs. However, if you are a porn star addicted to drugs, you will be immortalized and revered on every ghetto wall and deified by the media and current regime.

originally posted by: jidnum
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Huh?

how does an unarmed man shoot at cops? Is that what the media is saying about that guy? That he was unarmed?

That's what the news said yesterday when I posted that, that his gun was left in the car and he ran away unarmed

originally posted by: devilsadvocatetoday

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: CryHavoc
The fact is and remains that all around the world, not only in the US, people of different color are still not treated equally.

Let's not make this too simple, shall we?

There are poor people, black/white/yellow/etc, that are treated like # everyday by wealthier black/white/yellow/etc people. There are how many black people killed by black people everyday? More or less than black people killed by white people and vice-verse?

So let's not be a parrot and keep saying buzzwords to seem like we're part of the cool kids club and know what's going on when in reality, it's a little more complex then, different colored people get shafted by white people.

duh... I am the cool kid!

seriously, it is that simple! Humanity is divided by race and not tolerant towards each other.

oh look, a black person, must be a drug dealer
oh look, a white person, must be a goodie goodie churchgoing racist
oh look, an Arabian looking guy, must be a terrorist
oh look, a gypsy, must be a damn thief!

how is that buzzwords? It is what it is and have been for centuries

originally posted by: CryHavoc
If George Floyd pushed drugs on your Daughter, would you care that he died?
And here's another question to go along with that:
Did George Floyd push dangerous drugs on anyone's kid?

There you have it. That's a good enough reason to not summarily execute.

Do you have a reason besides his having used fentanyl to say that he was pushing it on peoples' kids?

Can we let people start summarily executing people?

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

oh look, a black person, must be a drug dealer
oh look, a white person, must be a goodie goodie churchgoing racist
oh look, an Arabian looking guy, must be a terrorist
oh look, a gypsy, must be a damn thief!

Hate to burst your bubble,but the rest of the world doesn't generally think like that any more. Thanks for letting us all know how you roll, though. Nice to know who to avoid.

TheRedneck