Fauci's time in the spotlight is over

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Ted Cruise is as deep state as Nancy pelosi

a reply to: just4fun

In order to get hold of a nations like US political structure, politicians in Washington have to be all in the club, or their political careers are over.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

No, stick around. Stay in the spotlight until every lie, every inhumane experiment, and every time you sold yourself for money is exposed.

Sadly, it won't happen. I'd like to see it as much as you, but it won't happen. He's untouchable. His supporters will go on lauding his heroic efforts. It doesn't matter that he has been exposed. His high-level buddies have his back.


Look at Andrew Cuomo. He was let off. In TWO New York counties. The prosecutors said "We know you did it, but it wasn't criminal, it was just inappropriate".

Westchester County


Oswego County


The law don't mean sh!t if you've got the right friends. That's how this country's run.

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut

There are plenty of articles, journals, tables, graphs, signatures and all sorts of evidence proving GOF and it’s funding by NIH.

One

In 2014, advances in genomic manipulation were suggesting that GOF might soon be possible.

(For instance, using the CRISPR process for genomic editing was not defined until 2013, just a year before the moratorium went into place: this paper - "Multiplex genome engineering using CRISPR/Cas systems" and "Development and applications of CRISPR-Cas9 for genome engineering". So it is clear that the moratorium preceded the actual functional capability to achieve GOF, and placing a moratorium on such research does not mean that that any such research was actually achievable at the time).

Experiments that create the possibility of initiating a pandemic should be subject to a rigorous quantitative risk assessment and a search for safer alternatives before they are approved or performed. Yet a rigorous and transparent risk assessment process for this work has not yet been established. This is why we support the recently announced moratorium on funding new “gain-of-function” (GOF) experiments that enhance mammalian transmissibility or virulence in severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), and influenza viruses.

Here’s an article from 2012

Describing Fauci’s support and wanted governmental use of GOF, specifically with influenza and respiratory viruses.

2012, when genetic manipulation tools like meganucleases, ZFN's, TALENS, and CRISPR/Cas9, didn't really exist as functional gene editing tools?

So what are the “ multiple unfounded” things you described?

Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases contributes his voice as a representative of an organization that is a key funder of influenza research. Although Fauci acknowledges that the benefits of gain-of-function research outweigh the risks, he argues that scientists have yet to fully meet their responsibility for engaging the public in weighing these matters and making the case for proceeding. He outlines how the U.S. government plans to augment policy guidelines related to "dual use research of concern" like the experiments on enhanced influenza transmission.

originally posted by: ColeYounger

originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
a reply to: ColeYounger

Did the dog happen to be a begal? And was its voice box removed so it couldn't scream out in pain while sandflies ate its head? Just curious... Asking for a friend. But yeah Dr. Fauci he sure loves dogs..

Yea...The first thing I thought of was that those idiots who adore him obviously don't know of his brutal animal experiments.
You could show them the proof, and they'd probably still refuse to accept it.

Funny enough if he had pulled those beagle experiments in Nazi Germany and had been found out they would have taken him out back and shot him. Oddly enough Nazis liked their animals.

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut

Please see my above…. Easily searchable…. Search between 2008-2014 plenty of finds…

IF you “want” to LEARN.

But how did the do GOF back then?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Bringittothelight

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ColeYounger

Fauci was referred to the justice department for criminal investigation after he purposely lied to Congress last july.

Since then, Biden's justice department has ignored investigating Fauci, to indict people like Steve bannon, for not showing up after Congress asked him to.

But did he lie, or was it just an allegation, based upon belief in a conspiracy theory?

Yes he lied . He said he didn’t give any money to the wuhan lab

No, he didn't say that. The grants that he approved went to pay for work at numerous labs. It would be more expensive researching emerging viral threats appearing in bats in China (an assumed potential source), in another country's lab. This was not under any sort of doubt.

. That was a lie . He said they weren’t doing gain of function testing there . That was a lie

Yet there has been no evidence found of GOF testing. Nearly everyone who says they have evidence of GOF talks ONLY about the money trail, not about the equipment and resources required, and/or academic papers or lab notes outlining the results of such testing. Several teams of international investigators have gone to the lab to look for such hard evidence and no-one has brought any of it forward, or even said it was found.

. You know that and you are here to lie to us all and obfuscate the truth . That is against tnc . Your disinformation campaign may Be effective against some main stream folk but not here .

So, now you accuse me. On what basis? Where is YOUR evidence?

I guess you missed darpa turning the pandemic starters down

DARPA are a military research organization. The proposal for the research that DARPA turned down were proposed for military purposes, and something quite different than what was being done by EcoHealth Alliance in their non-military research being done on foreign soil.

Yes he did say that . On tv under oath . My evidence is straight out of the horses mouth . It’s in cspan . I’m not accusing you of anything . You are running a disinformation campaign . Obviously why you will never change your mind about anything . It is against tnc to keep repeating your lies when the truth is plain to see . You are obviously a liar liar with an agenda . Have a good day

Well interestingly Factious Fauci is not the only been dumped out of the spot light.

It appears that Fauci hasn’t figured out Biden is done with him and wants him to disappear. The NIH head hasn’t taken part in an interview with the mainstream media for almost 3 weeks and has been only allowed to do interviews for streaming far-left websites.

After being thrown in our faces for almost three years Fauci, Osterholm, Van Gupta, and Gottlieb have all but disappeared. By the time the midterms get here Democrats do not want you to remember what they did during COVID. However, they have a new self-inflicted problem, gas prices and they aren’t going down anytime soon.

All the liberal media resident doctors and the covid for ever doomsdays are now out of work.

Don’t be dumb. You know what he meant. His spot light is getting small as f…k. Seriously? I thought you were smarter than that. Now you just sound like a petty little asshole. Damn. a reply to: chr0naut

Now you really are being dumb. He did lie. If you can’t see it then all hope is lost for you. Negative star ⭐️!!! Too bad we can’t give those out. a reply to: chr0naut

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut

Please see my above…. Easily searchable…. Search between 2008-2014 plenty of finds…

IF you “want” to LEARN.

But how did the do GOF back then?

I have precious little time to bandy words with people that shill for the pharmacological industry, but let's set aside the fact (which you are undoubtedly aware of) that the GoF research applied to the baseline SARS-CoV was effective. The SARS-CoV-2 virus had an enhanced level of contagiousness and caused much more damage compared to SARS-CoV:

In contrast to the 2002-2003 SARS-CoV outbreak, which had a higher pathogenicity and lead to higher mortality rates, SARSCoV-2 infection appears to be much more contagious. Moreover, many SARS-CoV-2 infected patients are reported to develop low-titer neutralizing antibody and usually suffer prolonged illness, suggesting a more effective SARS-CoV-2 immune surveillance evasion than SARS-CoV.

Let's use an analogy of say, performing research to construct a thermonuclear weapon in a setting (for instance Iran) where such research is forbidden.

Do authorities need to wait until after a weapon is successfully built to apply sanctions and intercede?

Or is it the case that even preliminary, unsuccessful/fruitless efforts towards a banned subject of research can be and are considered illegal?

If you break in to a car with the intent to steal it, but fail to get the engine to turn over, is it your contention that you can't be charged with auto theft?

That's sort of the rationale I'm hearing.

Even though the parties involved (Fauci and Barrick) were told to stop doing GoF back in 2014, which directive they ignored and worked around by simply sub-contracting/shifting research to China, because the researchers didn't succeed at GoF until say 2018-2019 (until after the prohibition on GoF was lifted), then that makes their flagrant disregard of N.I.H. policy between 2014-2017 "OK".

I think Fauci is skating by right now due to the current political winds blowing in his favor. There will come a time in the next 1 or 2 or 5 or 10 years that this will change. Fauci may not even be alive once these changes occur. But rest assured, the facts will be known, eventually.

originally posted by: Bringittothelight

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Bringittothelight

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ColeYounger

Fauci was referred to the justice department for criminal investigation after he purposely lied to Congress last july.

Since then, Biden's justice department has ignored investigating Fauci, to indict people like Steve bannon, for not showing up after Congress asked him to.

But did he lie, or was it just an allegation, based upon belief in a conspiracy theory?

Yes he lied . He said he didn’t give any money to the wuhan lab

No, he didn't say that. The grants that he approved went to pay for work at numerous labs. It would be more expensive researching emerging viral threats appearing in bats in China (an assumed potential source), in another country's lab. This was not under any sort of doubt.

. That was a lie . He said they weren’t doing gain of function testing there . That was a lie

Yet there has been no evidence found of GOF testing. Nearly everyone who says they have evidence of GOF talks ONLY about the money trail, not about the equipment and resources required, and/or academic papers or lab notes outlining the results of such testing. Several teams of international investigators have gone to the lab to look for such hard evidence and no-one has brought any of it forward, or even said it was found.

. You know that and you are here to lie to us all and obfuscate the truth . That is against tnc . Your disinformation campaign may Be effective against some main stream folk but not here .

So, now you accuse me. On what basis? Where is YOUR evidence?

I guess you missed darpa turning the pandemic starters down

DARPA are a military research organization. The proposal for the research that DARPA turned down were proposed for military purposes, and something quite different than what was being done by EcoHealth Alliance in their non-military research being done on foreign soil.

Yes he did say that . On tv under oath . My evidence is straight out of the horses mouth . It’s in cspan . I’m not accusing you of anything . You are running a disinformation campaign . Obviously why you will never change your mind about anything . It is against tnc to keep repeating your lies when the truth is plain to see . You are obviously a liar liar with an agenda . Have a good day

If he said that on TV and there is a video of it, then post a link to it.

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut

Please see my above…. Easily searchable…. Search between 2008-2014 plenty of finds…

IF you “want” to LEARN.

But how did the do GOF back then?

I have precious little time to bandy words with people that shill for the pharmacological industry, but let's set aside the fact (which you are undoubtedly aware of) that the GoF research applied to the baseline SARS-CoV was effective. The SARS-CoV-2 virus had an enhanced level of contagiousness and caused much more damage compared to SARS-CoV:

The Delta and Omicron strains, which no-one is suggesting were developed in a lab, were even more contagious than the Alpha strain.

Enhanced contagiousness does not mean that a pathogen was artificially enhanced.

In contrast to the 2002-2003 SARS-CoV outbreak, which had a higher pathogenicity and lead to higher mortality rates, SARSCoV-2 infection appears to be much more contagious. Moreover, many SARS-CoV-2 infected patients are reported to develop low-titer neutralizing antibody and usually suffer prolonged illness, suggesting a more effective SARS-CoV-2 immune surveillance evasion than SARS-CoV.

Let's use an analogy of say, performing research to construct a thermonuclear weapon in a setting (for instance Iran) where such research is forbidden.

Do authorities need to wait until after a weapon is successfully built to apply sanctions and intercede?

Or is it the case that even preliminary, unsuccessful/fruitless efforts towards a banned subject of research can be and are considered illegal?

If you break in to a car with the intent to steal it, but fail to get the engine to turn over, is it your contention that you can't be charged with auto theft?

That's sort of the rationale I'm hearing.

Even though the parties involved (Fauci and Barrick) were told to stop doing GoF back in 2014, which directive they ignored and worked around by simply sub-contracting/shifting research to China, because the researchers didn't succeed at GoF until say 2018-2019 (until after the prohibition on GoF was lifted), then that makes their flagrant disregard of N.I.H. policy between 2014-2017 "OK".

Fauci et al, were voluntarily part of the moratorium against GOF research since before 2014.

There is no link between Fauci and GOF research during the moratorium except where he warns against it in his e-mails. If Fauci had directed someone to perform GOF research, that directive would be the smoking gun, however, there was no directive from Fauci to any research group, to perform GOF research.

There was also no evidence of GOF at the Wuhan lab. Two international teams of experts, and a Chinese team, have looked for it and not found any evidence. Surely there would be some if it was happening? It would take considerable resources, teams of workers, physical space for hosts incubating the virus, and lots of time, to achieve.

I think Fauci is skating by right now due to the current political winds blowing in his favor. There will come a time in the next 1 or 2 or 5 or 10 years that this will change. Fauci may not even be alive once these changes occur. But rest assured, the facts will be known, eventually.

If there is no evidence closer to the point in time when it happened, why do you think there will suddenly be evidence in years time? It's not like they have bagged up the lab and put it in a cold case evidence locker?

Remember all those almost weekly: "Boom, this is the smoking gun!" headlines from MSM when unfounded allegations were all the rage under the great accuser? They also said that soon everyone would be brought to justice. They never happened. No evidence then - no evidence now.

a reply to: chr0naut

Fauci gave millions to the wuhan lab . Dr Baric and dr zengele did gain of function testing there . The media told us it wasn’t manmade . They media are evil liars . What’s your angle here ? There’s a mountain of evidence

originally posted by: Bringittothelight
a reply to: chr0naut

Fauci gave millions to the wuhan lab . Dr Baric and dr zengele did gain of function testing there . The media told us it wasn’t manmade . They media are evil liars . What’s your angle here ? There’s a mountain of evidence

No-one is denying that the NIH gave grants to research potential disease threats, it was supposed to do that.

But the money trail was not evidence of GOF research.

GOF requires banks of gene sequencing equipment, chemicals, lots and lots of host species to incubate each potential modification, lab notes to monitor and direct the research, lots of staff to do all the work, and decades of time to bring it all to the point where it has worked. Those things are evidence of GOF research, not who gave someone a grant.

But, if GOF wasn't being done, that is far easier. All you need to do is culture stuff from nature, and test that against cell cultures. If something begins to kill the test cultures, all you have to do then is to isolate and document the specific pathogen and publish the results to other groups working on therapeutics and vaccines, and your job would be done, and that was what the grant money was for.

The payment of grant money is just not evidence of GOF. Nor is a speculative e-mail discussing the possibility of GOF. Real evidence of GOF, is real evidence that it was physically being done.

So 2021

originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
a reply to: ColeYounger

Did the dog happen to be a begal? And was its voice box removed so it couldn't scream out in pain while sandflies ate its head? Just curious... Asking for a friend. But yeah Dr. Fauci he sure loves dogs..

Exactly! The sand flies acted as a public service announcement that Ivermectin is so bad, you’d rather sand fleas eat your head and infest your nose and ears than give Ivermectin a try. Fauci is always looking out for us. My hero
💭♥️♥️🏋🏼💫🥼👨🏼‍🏫👨‍🦼🚶‍♂️

a reply to: chr0naut

Well can you reply to the video that’s been posted ?

originally posted by: Bringittothelight
a reply to: chr0naut

Fauci gave millions to the wuhan lab . Dr Baric and dr zengele did gain of function testing there . The media told us it wasn’t manmade . They media are evil liars . What’s your angle here ? There’s a mountain of evidence

His 'angle' may be seen in this thread, 1st page.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

One has to see it, to believe it.


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a reply to: chr0naut



Lays out all of the evasive and sketchy activity to skirt the moratorium.

If Fauci didn't prevent the offshoring of research to Wuhan, he was either complicit or catastrophically negligent. He knew what was going on, and either assisted or looked the other way.

Were these people examining the Wuhan lab the same experts that penned a note (immediately after the outbreak, before any data could possibly be studied) emphatically stating that the virus couldn't possibly be from the Wuhan lab. They have 0 credibility, as does any team sent by the Chinese government.

GoF research WAS occurring at Wuhan, and in fact it was being done with inappropriate safety standards.

No amount of spinning or lying is going to change the facts and information that's come to light on what was going on at Wuhan.