Putin and Macron agree to urgent summit at the highest level apparently without the US

a reply to: carewemust

Not quite. He inherited Trump's policy.

But never mind stuff like facts. Just go with "Biden. Waaaaah!!!!?


time.com...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Not quite. He inherited Trump's policy.

But never mind stuff like facts. Just go with "Biden. Waaaaah!!!!?


time.com...

Biden cancelled the Russian Sanctions, and he cancelled Operation Legend that reduced violent crime in (mostly) Democrat-run cities.

The man sucks to high heaven. Any number of world leaders would be preferable to Joe Biden.

a reply to: carewemust

Not really on topic?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Aren't you meant to be patriotic?

Or does your Biden obsession make you love ex KGB despots more?

The biggest quagmire is which would be the best alternative to Joe Biden....Vladimir Putin, or Kamala Harris?

Putin. He's got 20 years on Kamala and clearly he commands a healthy respect among the world heavyweights.

It is no coincidence that the word "sabotage" is French.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Not quite. He inherited Trump's policy.

But never mind stuff like facts. Just go with "Biden. Waaaaah!!!!?


time.com...

Biden cancelled the Russian Sanctions, and he cancelled Operation Legend that reduced violent crime in (mostly) Democrat-run cities.

The man sucks to high heaven. Any number of world leaders would be preferable to Joe Biden.

Bewildered Biden ranks as the worst president/leader of any country in the history of the world.
Far behind even Hitler and Mussolini.
He’s got a lot of simple people fooled.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

No UK, Canada etc either.

What's your point?

The UK and The US are intentionally trying to start a war with Russia.

Neither the UK nor US were invited to this meeting, at the direction of Russia. If there is anything intentional about those two countries not participating, it is on the part of Russia.

Of course Putin is looking for another option he backed himself in a corner and can't figure a way out. He only has 3 options and he looses with all of them.

First he could back down and pull his troops away from the border. This won't sit well and lead to his downfall as his enemies in Russia become emboldened. This option he loses political clout at home and abroad. Meaning future negotiations won't happen and gives other Russians a shot at his job.

2nd option concedes to the west by negotiating some small win he can sell to the Russian people. For example new trade agreements or sanction removals. However, he is still at the mercy of the west and even worse lost any future negotiating power as now they know he can be controlled.

3rd option invade Ukraine this move would tank what's left of the Russian economy, Not to mention casualties will be hard to sell to the Russian people. Even worse he could take Ukraine but could never hold it they don't have the forces for occupation and everyone knows the counter-insurgency would be backed by the west. Russia just cant afford a long drawn out campaign and this would only force countries like Sweden and Denmark to join NATO.This also damages Russian arms sales as their tanks become burning hulks as they cross the border do to relatively inexpensive Javelins.



No matter which option he chooses he loses its almost like he fell into a trap

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
The UK is a has-been.

The US of A is joining it.

Both are almost irrelevant, especially as to leadership. Why the hell would Putin, or any other world leader, want to include Biden??? Trump would have been invited.

Maybe Putin fears that Biden will offer him a free crack pipe.

Has been a right up until the point someone needs digging out of the sh!t, usually France. Then we’re not so has been. Same with the USA. Europe talks a good game, but they’re just likely to bend over and take whatever Putin thrusts at them - which is weird considering Russia itself is a spent force - apart from its nukes.

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

Looks like they might push for the Eastern States in Ukraine to have some kind of independence.

Biden and Putin agree to the summit over Ukraine according to Macron...

Barrack Obama was asked for his thoughts

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Not quite. He inherited Trump's policy.

But never mind stuff like facts. Just go with "Biden. Waaaaah!!!!?


time.com...

Biden cancelled the Russian Sanctions, and he cancelled Operation Legend that reduced violent crime in (mostly) Democrat-run cities.

The man sucks to high heaven. Any number of world leaders would be preferable to Joe Biden.

Bewildered Biden ranks as the worst president/leader of any country in the history of the world.
Far behind even Hitler and Mussolini.
He’s got a lot of simple people fooled.

And now, the senile old racist money-launderer has forced his way into the MACRON - PUTIN summit.

In fact, he's taking it over!: www.foxnews.com...

I hope the man who helped in the "sabotage Trump" attempt fails miserably!

Good.

Maybe sense will prevail. The US has been making this issue significantly worse with their bipolar, nonsensical actions and statements.

The President of America also doesn’t seem to know what planet he’s on his mind is that far gone. Say what you want about Macron and Putin but i seriously doubt they suffer from severe cognitive decline like Joe Biden.

in the end Europe wont let us do much of anything and another part of ukraine will be annexed and we'll be back to do this again in 2028 with the remaining part getting annexed before russia targets lithuania, estonia, latvia or moldova or georgia again.

and of course russia will claim innocence and somehow make it America's fault while they occupy and section off parts of other nations.

a reply to: namehere

We should leave those affairs between Russia and the countries Russia wants to own.

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
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Both are almost irrelevant, especially as to leadership. Why the hell would Putin, or any other world leader, want to include Biden??? Trump would have been invited.
...

The smell alone when Joe poops himself would be enough to justify not inviting him.

But seriously, Beijing Joe is a joke in his home country. A couple of years ago the US was recognized as holding a position of leadership in the world and world probably have been asked to participate. Now? Who wants a senile old dementia patient who is destroying his own country to have anything to do trying to fix others.

and kamala is right there!

she did so good at the southern border.

she can handle WW3 easy!

shes a regular Churchill

a reply to: carewemust

That's probably quite a long list.

Two of CNN's remaining employees have constructed a broadcast booth atop an apartment building in Kiev, Ukraine.

They're waiting for missiles to fly, or to see if Biden's sanctions cause Russia to withdraw.

Has the "false flag" happened yet? Biden has said several times one is coming!