Dollar Symbology - Onto something here

Hey folks, have been working diligently on my Kabbalah thread as requested by the community. It's become an even more grandiose adventure than expected.

To the meat and potatoes!

I discussed in my previous thread the illusion of 'light' and 'colors'...as we perceive it. So I won't get into that nitty stuff here.

(What is light/color?)

However, I was watching a documentary on Gaia, for background noise more or less, and I overheard someone mentioning there are 72 bricks in the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill. I never knew there were specifically 72 bricks... They didn't go on to explain why, but I didn't need them to. It suddenly hit me in the face, like one of those bricks falling from the pyramids of Giza.

Why 72? What's so important about 72? Well, falling in line with the eye symbology I discussed previously, the base, with it's 72 bricks, represent the 72 names of God.



Now, I don't speak Hebrew what-so-ever, and that's what's been the biggest obstacle in my Kabbalah thread, given I know more in regards to the Hermtic Qabbalah path. But I do remember a story from a facebook friend of mine who I personally asked to mentor me online. He is a Kabbalist Jew, and has been very encouraging and enlightening.

He once told me a story. And this is what made me put the two together. When Moses lead the Jews out of Egypt and split the Red Sea for safe crossing, it is said in the bible a "strong Eastern wind" helped. Well, according to Kabbalist', that's just the tip of the iceberg. And this relates to the more "scientific" realms of Hermeticism and vibration theory. According to Judaism, Moses recited the 72 NAMES OF GOD *I say using the vibration frequencies of the 72 names* to part the Red Sea.

The 72 Names of God are not “names” in any ordinary sense. They are a metaphysical formula for connecting to the infinite spiritual current that flows throughout reality. God gave this cutting-edge technology to Moses to be shared with all people, so that humans could unleash their own God-like powers and attain control over the physical world. And the power that drives these letters is revealed again in the energy of this week.

kabbalah.com...

I'm still attempting to tie in the significance of the 13 levels on the pyramid, and if my analysis is correct so far, fits perfectly, snug as a bug.

Here are some theories I've come up with, but I don't feel comfortable with how they fit in with the rest of my analysis thus far.

Ego death? Arcanum #13 correlates to the death of the ego in Tarot. Maybe correlates to the "ego death" of God that a lot of people noticeably mentioned?
God Complex, Ego Death

Sethian Gnostic Gospel of Adams 13 kingdoms of the apocalypse?

Someone on quora said it had to do with Horus, which would be extremely convenient for research, but I've yet to find a connection between the number 13 and Horus.

Unity? After 12, you've gone full circle...Bakers dozen, astrology, 12 seems to be the ending number with 13 being unity...I guess..

Oh, wait. I think I got this one. Ez wiki-pee-dia

The Thirteen Attributes of Mercy (י״ג מִידּוֹת) or Shelosh-'Esreh Middot HaRakhamim (transliterated from the Hebrew: שְׁלוֹשׁ־עֶשְׂרֵה מִידּוֹת הַרַחֲמִים) as enumerated in the Book of Exodus (Exodus 34:6–7) are the Divine Attributes with which, according to Judaism, God governs the world. According to the explanation of Maimonides these attributes must not be regarded as qualities inherent in God, but as the method of His activity, by which the divine governance appears to the human observer to be controlled.[1] In the Sifre, however, these attributes are not called middot, which may mean "quality"[2] as well as "rule" and "measure", but "derakhim" (ways), since they are the ways of God which Moses prayed to know and which God proclaimed to him.

en.wikipedia.org...

And so my friends, we've come full circle.

The eye represents Isis' veil, the "false" light we "perceive" with our 'senses', illuminati/luciferianism, the false light.

The 72 bricks are the 72 names of the divine creator.

The 72 layers, are the attributes of the divine creator.

But why a pyramid? Well folks, you only need to look at my profile picture. The picture of "our" God, creating our material realm within the confines of his tool.

When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:27

Now you can call me crazy.

originally posted by: JimmyNeutr0n
Hey folks, have been working diligently on my Kabbalah thread as requested by the community. It's become an even more grandiose adventure than expected.

To the meat and potatoes!

I discussed in my previous thread the illusion of 'light' and 'colors'...as we perceive it. So I won't get into that nitty stuff here.

(What is light/color?)

However, I was watching a documentary on Gaia, for background noise more or less, and I overheard someone mentioning there are 72 bricks in the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill. I never knew there were specifically 72 bricks... They didn't go on to explain why, but I didn't need them to. It suddenly hit me in the face, like one of those bricks falling from the pyramids of Giza.

Why 72? What's so important about 72? Well, falling in line with the eye symbology I discussed previously, the base, with it's 72 bricks, represent the 72 names of God.

Now, I don't speak Hebrew what-so-ever, and that's what's been the biggest obstacle in my Kabbalah thread, given I know more in regards to the Hermtic Qabbalah path. But I do remember a story from a facebook friend of mine who I personally asked to mentor me online. He is a Kabbalist Jew, and has been very encouraging and enlightening.

He once told me a story. And this is what made me put the two together. When Moses lead the Jews out of Egypt and split the Red Sea for safe crossing, it is said in the bible a "strong Eastern wind" helped. Well, according to Kabbalist', that's just the tip of the iceberg. And this relates to the more "scientific" realms of Hermeticism and vibration theory. According to Judaism, Moses recited the 72 NAMES OF GOD *I say using the vibration frequencies of the 72 names* to part the Red Sea.

The 72 Names of God are not “names” in any ordinary sense. They are a metaphysical formula for connecting to the infinite spiritual current that flows throughout reality. God gave this cutting-edge technology to Moses to be shared with all people, so that humans could unleash their own God-like powers and attain control over the physical world. And the power that drives these letters is revealed again in the energy of this week.

kabbalah.com...

I'm still attempting to tie in the significance of the 13 levels on the pyramid, and if my analysis is correct so far, fits perfectly, snug as a bug.

Here are some theories I've come up with, but I don't feel comfortable with how they fit in with the rest of my analysis thus far.

Ego death? Arcanum #13 correlates to the death of the ego in Tarot. Maybe correlates to the "ego death" of God that a lot of people noticeably mentioned?
God Complex, Ego Death

Sethian Gnostic Gospel of Adams 13 kingdoms of the apocalypse?

Someone on quora said it had to do with Horus, which would be extremely convenient for research, but I've yet to find a connection between the number 13 and Horus.

Unity? After 12, you've gone full circle...Bakers dozen, astrology, 12 seems to be the ending number with 13 being unity...I guess..

Oh, wait. I think I got this one. Ez wiki-pee-dia

The Thirteen Attributes of Mercy (י״ג מִידּוֹת) or Shelosh-'Esreh Middot HaRakhamim (transliterated from the Hebrew: שְׁלוֹשׁ־עֶשְׂרֵה מִידּוֹת הַרַחֲמִים) as enumerated in the Book of Exodus (Exodus 34:6–7) are the Divine Attributes with which, according to Judaism, God governs the world. According to the explanation of Maimonides these attributes must not be regarded as qualities inherent in God, but as the method of His activity, by which the divine governance appears to the human observer to be controlled.[1] In the Sifre, however, these attributes are not called middot, which may mean "quality"[2] as well as "rule" and "measure", but "derakhim" (ways), since they are the ways of God which Moses prayed to know and which God proclaimed to him.

en.wikipedia.org...

And so my friends, we've come full circle.

The eye represents Isis' veil, the "false" light we "perceive" with our 'senses', illuminati/luciferianism, the false light.

The 72 bricks are the 72 names of the divine creator.

The 72 layers, are the attributes of the divine creator.

But why a pyramid? Well folks, you only need to look at my profile picture. The picture of "our" God, creating our material realm within the confines of his tool.

When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:27

Now you can call me crazy.

We were ALL there.

originally posted by: JimmyNeutr0n

Oh, wait. I think I got this one. Ez wiki-pee-dia

The Thirteen Attributes of Mercy (י״ג מִידּוֹת) or Shelosh-'Esreh Middot HaRakhamim (transliterated from the Hebrew: שְׁלוֹשׁ־עֶשְׂרֵה מִידּוֹת הַרַחֲמִים) as enumerated in the Book of Exodus (Exodus 34:6–7) are the Divine Attributes with which, according to Judaism, God governs the world.

Guess I don't get this part...Exodus 34 6-7 isn't anything like this. It reads like this:

34:5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.

34:6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

34:8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

originally posted by: TruthJava

originally posted by: JimmyNeutr0n

Oh, wait. I think I got this one. Ez wiki-pee-dia

The Thirteen Attributes of Mercy (י״ג מִידּוֹת) or Shelosh-'Esreh Middot HaRakhamim (transliterated from the Hebrew: שְׁלוֹשׁ־עֶשְׂרֵה מִידּוֹת הַרַחֲמִים) as enumerated in the Book of Exodus (Exodus 34:6–7) are the Divine Attributes with which, according to Judaism, God governs the world.

Guess I don't get this part...Exodus 34 6-7 isn't anything like this. It reads like this:

34:5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.

34:6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

34:8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

Mate, you answered your own question

יְהוָה YHVH: compassion before a person sins;
יְהוָה compassion after a person has sinned;
אֵל El: mighty in compassion to give all creatures according to their need;
רַחוּם Raḥum: merciful, that humankind may not be distressed;
וְחַנּוּן VeḤanun: and gracious if humankind is already in distress;
אֶרֶךְ אַפַּיִם Erekh appayim: slow to anger;
וְרַב-חֶסֶד VeRav ḥesed: and plenteous in kindness;
וֶאֱמֶת VeEmet: and truth;
נֹצֵר חֶסֶד לָאֲלָפִים Notzer ḥesed laalafim: keeping kindness unto thousands;
נֹשֵׂא עָוֹן Noseh avon: forgiving iniquity;
וָפֶשַׁע VaFeshah: and transgression;
וְחַטָּאָה VeḤata'ah: and sin;
וְנַקֵּה VeNakeh: and pardoning.

Read those verses again, you can find all these attributes within. 1st, "and stood with him there". Every word matters, every word means something. Every word was specifically placed. I'm not a follower of Christian dogmas or personally affiliate myself with any denomination, but whoever "wrote" the bible, damnit that dude needs a medal.

You can't assume the bible would read like this, "And so God, had many qualities, such as A, B, C and D". That's something you need to figure out through your scripture reading through it all.

Let me give you another, off-topic, example.

Exodus 29:8-11
"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. "

In the passage above, God tells us his "signature/seal".

Name: The lord
Title: Creator "made Heaven and Earth"
Region: Heaven and Earth

Everything a signature needs, a name, the persons title and the region the person reigns over.

72 bricks like the 72 daemons of goetia, the dollar bill even has the seal of solomon (soul/sol of man) aka six pointed star (Arm, Leg Leg Arm Head=ALLAH plus the six pointed which is the genitals)

Number 72.

Oh, I know it's Wikipedia, but take your pick... Number 72 Wiki

Just have to say that the person who designed the dollar bill is probably having a good laugh at all the pointless conspiracies which have come out of it. I am told it's actually impossible to count the bricks on the pyramid, so 72 is just someone's guess. It could be 71, or 73, or 67 - but know, find a number that fits a fantasy.

originally posted by: paraphi
Number 72.

Oh, I know it's Wikipedia, but take your pick... Number 72 Wiki

Just have to say that the person who designed the dollar bill is probably having a good laugh at all the pointless conspiracies which have come out of it. I am told it's actually impossible to count the bricks on the pyramid, so 72 is just someone's guess. It could be 71, or 73, or 67 - but know, find a number that fits a fantasy.

I mean, I didn't say anyone was conspiring for or against anything. My speculation? Perhaps...Irrelevant? Definitely. Relevant to ATS? Absolutely. Maybe the guy who "intentionally" made and detailed the seals is as creative as I am, and finds this hypothesis silly, but interesting Who knows, if he likes my work, maybe I can help design the Apocalypse Socialist Dollar with Ruth Gader Guinness on the $1,000,000 bill

I'd ask you to read my previous threads, especially the one about light and colors, so you can get a better understanding of "illuminati". It's not the big bad boogy man, nor is it even really a conspiracy. Illuminati, illumination, false light and our perception of reality, a theory, not so much a conspiracy. No single man, no single group, no collective of men or groups "are" the illuminati... "You" are the illuminati...Your perception of the world around you through your senses. This time, I would ask you to read my 2ND thread about the Sphenoid Bone, the Butterfly Effect (of the Sphenoid Bone), it's relation to your senses, perception and life as "YOU" know it.

No conspiracy here my brother. Just a few good peeps asking really...really deep philosophical questions about life...

Butterfly Effect/Psyche/Sphenoid Bone Thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Perception, Light, Colors Thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: JimmyNeutr0n

Man everybody knows that all the Symbology on the dollar is Manson code.
Where you been at?

I didn't know Judaism had names of God concept as well, in Islam there are Asma ul Husna, 99 names of Allah, though I am not sure if this concept is Quranic or how many of these supposed names are actually mentioned in Quran - I would like to know if there are any matches between the two list of names

a reply to: valerias

There are a bunch if memory serves,
YHWH
El
Elohim
El Shaddai
Tzevaot
Ehyeh asher ehyeh
Adonai
El Roi
HaShem
Jehovah - Jireh
Jehovah - Rapha
Jehovah - Nissi
Jehovah-Rohi:
Jehovah-Shalom:
Jehovah-Tsidkenu

There are others, these are the ones that come to mind.

Looks like an astrological clock or compass of sorts, the Hebrew Horoscope maybe?

Thing is having 72 names for God doesn't generally go with O.T narrative, but the names could of been adopted an become synonymous with differing translations. For example, the Caananite God Baal, actually means Lord if it translated, and is canonically close to over throwing Yahweh. Baal could even be the root word for the Arabic word Allah, which is dates pre-islam.

El another example but is from Babylonia, and was rooted from one of the Elohim, which became another name of God.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: valerias

There are a bunch if memory serves,
YHWH
El
Elohim
El Shaddai
Tzevaot
Ehyeh asher ehyeh
Adonai
El Roi
HaShem
Jehovah - Jireh
Jehovah - Rapha
Jehovah - Nissi
Jehovah-Rohi:
Jehovah-Shalom:
Jehovah-Tsidkenu

There are others, these are the ones that come to mind.

You said "Elohim". Elohim means GodS, plural.

IM at the end of a hebrew word pluralizes a noun.

Elohim is not Gods name. El would be Gods name.

Judaism is not a monotheistic religion. It's a henotheistic religion. But that's up for another thread and another debate.

Furthermore, those are names given to God by man (Ish in Hebrew). I'm referring to the "sacred" 72 names of God:

Exodus 14:19-21 each contain 72 letters in Hebrew. In the Zohar (II:51b) it is stated that these three verses refer in sequence to the divine attributes of chesed, gevura, and tiferet. The harmonious blending of these three principle emotive attributes forms the basic paradigm of how G‑d relates to the world. Thus, they together form a composite name of G‑d, since a name is a means by which one is made known to others, i.e. manifests his attributes.

The fact that each verse contains 72 letters means that they can be aligned in parallel, forming 72 triplets of letters. In this configuration, the Zohar states, the first verse is to be written in its proper order, since it represents G‑d's loving-kindness, or a direct revelation of G‑d's goodness. The second verse is to be written in reverse order, from the last letter to the first, since it represents G‑d's severity, which is an indirect revelation of His goodness. Although tiferet is a blend of both chesed and gevura, the third verse is not to be written half in the proper order and half in reverse order, as one might expect. There are two reasons for this: (1) in tiferet, chesed dominates over gevura, and (2) as the ideal blend of chesed and gevura, tiferet is a direct revelation of G‑d's goodness and glory rather than an indirect one.
www.chabad.org... /72-Names-of-G-d.htm

Hence the picture I posted in the OP.

This is common even in "mid" level Jewish teachings, reciting the 72 names of God to solicit him.

I should probably get into mysticism/magick instead of leaving off here...but I will leave that for my encompassing Kabbalah thread coming soon..

a reply to: JimmyNeutr0n

My Understanding the Hebrew word is used both in singular and plural form. First known use of this english translation was in1617.

From Oxford,

Elohim noun
A name for God used frequently in the Hebrew Bible.
‘The name Elohim is therefore interpreted to indicate that God is the ‘master of all power.’’

More examples in a sentence
‘As noted earlier, this name signifies kindness and compassion, as contrasted with the name Elohim, which refers to God as the harsh but just judge.’
‘The heart of the universe beats with the pulse of the name Elohim.’
‘The opening passage of Torah begins: ‘In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.’’
‘For example, it is permissible to pronounce the word Elohim when it is an obvious reference to human judges or false gods, or Tzeva'ot when it refers to armies.’
'This phenomenon is symbolized by the first part of the word Elohim being separated, at least intellectually, from the second part.’
This is why, Kabbalah points out, the numerical value or gematria, of Elohim and ha-teva ‘nature ‘are equal.’’
‘In some ways the Greek Bible is more self-consciously un-Greek, its ‘Lord God’ more removed from manifestation, than the Elohim and Yahweh of the Hebrew text it was translating.’
One of the names for God in the oldest parts of the Hebrew Bible is Elohim, which literally means ‘the Gods.’’
‘This is why observant Hebrews avoid writing a Name of Elohim on web sites like this one, or in newsgroup messages, because there is a risk that someone else will print it out and deface it.’
‘They are supposedly referenced in the Bible in the form of the Elohim, the plural form of God used in Genesis.’
‘Other critics say that the words Elohim and Yahweh indicate two different authors, and, who lived well after Moses' time.’

From Websters,

god noun ˈgäd also ˈgȯd plural gods Essential Meaning of god
1 : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being that is worshipped especially by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as the one who created and rules the universe Does she believe in God? (May) God bless us all. See More Examples
2 : a spirit or being that has great power, strength, knowledge, etc., and that can affect nature and the lives of people : one of various spirits or beings worshipped in some religions the gods and goddesses of ancient Egypt a Hindu god See More Examples
3 : a person and especially a man who is greatly loved or admired a professor who was regarded as a kind of god a guitar god like Jimi Hendrix

It takes the Sun 72 years to move One degree through the Mazzaroth

Mazzaroth (Hebrew Transliteration: מַזָּרוֹת Mazzārōṯ, LXX Μαζουρωθ, Mazourōth) is a Biblical Hebrew Word found in the Book of Job (38:32) and literally meaning "constellations," according to 10th-century biblical exegete Saadia Gaon, while others interpret the word as Garland of Crowns, but its context is that of Astronomical Constellations, and it is often interpreted as a term for the Zodiac or the Constellations thereof.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

That's what oxford will tell you in English...Imagine asking an English translator what a foreign word means? Good luck.. Furthermore, neither of your definitions tell you the breakdown and meaning of the word, just what "other" context it was "supposed" to mean. Not very definitive, just suggestive...

But if you speak Hebrew, you would understand the linguistics of the language...

הים is the same as 's in English, pluralization of a noun. In Hebrew, "ONE" god is referred to as Eloah.

Is there a difference in these two sentences?

"We worship Gods" Elohim אלוהים
"We worship God" Eloah אלוה

BIG difference, no?

And to further back my claim Judaism is a henotheistic religion and they refer to Elohim as a plural SPECIFICALLY, just go back to the story of Exodus.

Moses comes down from the mountain to witness the Israelites worshipping a Golden Bull that represented another God. And "our" God was angry, and one of the commandments was "not to put other Gods before him". Key word, "OTHER GODS", even "God" himself acknowledge there were "other Gods".

Hence, Judaism "CHOSE" what God to worship when Moses ushered in the "new age".

This is exactly how ancient cultures, especially Greek, worshiped their pantheon of gods. Athens was devoted to the worship of Athena, Mars of Sparta, ect.

a reply to: JimmyNeutr0n

You know you can argue with scholars all you want. As I said the word Elohim is used both as a Singular and Plural noun.

You can try to spin how ever you like, it doesn't change that fact.

Here a example of a sentence like you did,

"You shall have no other gods( Elohim) before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7)
"In the beginning God ( Elohim) created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1)

Big difference, no?

The above comes from this article,

First, YHWH is a proper noun, the personal name of Israel's deity. Second, Elohim is a common noun, used to refer to deity.
Elohim is actually a plural noun (indicated by the /im/ as in cherubim and seraphim). Sometimes the referent is plural. At other times the referent is singular. Like most words in English, Elohim can mean several things. Sometimes Elohim refers to plural "gods," as in "You shall have no other gods before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7). At other times it refers to the singular "God," as in "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). It is clear in this latter example that even though the form of the word Elohim is plural, the referent is singular, because the verb with which Elohim is used ("created") is singular in Hebrew.

Second, the relationship between YHWH and Elohim in the combination YHWH Elohim is one of apposition, that is to say the second noun is placed immediately after the first noun to provide some sort of further definition or explanation. The significance of this can be seen in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. In Genesis 1 only Elohim is used to refer to deity. This is no doubt because of the universal perspective of this creation story. In Genesis 2, on the other hand, deity is referred to as YHWH Elohim. These two accounts converge to affirm that YHWH (the God of Israel) and not any other ancient Near Eastern deity is Elohim (the universal God).

So, why the plural form if the referent is singular? The best answer is that this is an "honorific plural," that is to say, a plural used to show honor to a singular referent. Such an honorific plural is used for humans in texts like 1Kings 1:43, where we read, "our lord King David." The Hebrew word translated "lord" in this case is plural, even though it refers to the singular David. This honorific plural is also used of God elsewhere in texts like Psalm 8:1, where we read, "O LORD, our Lord…." In this text "LORD" (small caps) translates YHWH, while "Lord" translates a common noun for "master," which is in this text plural in form though referring to the singular YHWH. So Psalm 8:1 could be translated "O YHWH, our Master…." So, YWHW is the true God's personal name, and Elohim by itself is simply the Hebrew common noun used to refer to the true God in an honorific way. Now, what about the combination YHWH Elohim?

Ask a Scholar: What Does YHWH Elohim Mean?

Now to address they chose their gods.
Well of course they did, Abram came from UR of the Chadians, his father Terah was a idol worshiping high priest for their chief god.
When YHWH Elohim spoke to him that's when he left with his father and other of his family and worshiped YHWH Elohim

Now to the golden calf, after was it 400 or 500 years of living in a captive state as slaves it would only be natural to adopt the gods of your captors, especially when your in fear of a unknown and revert back to what you knew. Just look to the Slaves from Africa, many if not most choose to believe in Jesus and YHWH over their gods/ beliefs from Africa.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

"You shall have no other gods( Elohim) before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7)
"In the beginning God ( Elohim) created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1)

You gave me two examples of God talking about and acknowledging GodS in the plural, again..Elohim...It's actually, "In the beginning the GODS (plural) created the heavens and the earth". How can you tell me otherwise when you yourself agree Elohim is a pluralized noun...Are we conveniently deciding what things mean as we go...?

That's the problem with word-to-word translations and exactly why there are so many versions of the bible my friend. The latin english bible isn't a good translation of ancient Hebrew text, and if you spoke a shred of Hebrew, you'd understand there are a lot of linguistic barriers.

Who's spinning what? I think you need to remember when you point a finger, 4 point back at you sir.

No "what ifs", "maybes", "sortas", just straight forward, not suggestive.

Imagine something walking, talking and sounding like a duck, but infact calling it a cow..? Better yet, imagine telling someone "there's an infestation of bird"? Does that sentence sound structurally correct and coherent? It would be "there's an infestation of birdS"

Then being firm with your suggestive definition (not a definition at all) to the point of debate? Keyword, SUGGESTIVE, again neither of your definitions are DEFINITIVE....


Question, do you speak Hebrew? Debate over.

ETA: Question, you said specifically "YHWH Elohim", why? You just debated my definition, but just reaffirmed it by saying "God of Gods", literally YHWH Elohim......God...of....God"S"?

Quick Hebrew lesson for you also, do you know why it is spelled YHWH in English? Well, in Hebrew, there are no vowels, only constants.

Hence YHWH = Yahweh יהוה

Again, best example I can give you as to why you're misled is look at how many versions of the bible there are.



Word-for-word translations, Meaning-for-meaning, Thought-for-thought and paraphrasing translations are different, and when you change a few words around, you may "keep" the same meaning of the text, but not the accurate context as the word-to-word translation of the ancient texts.

ETA Off-Topic: Hesidios' Theogony is a masterful piece about creation of the God(s). I would highly recommend it to anyone interested in this subject. The story is very similar to Jewish/Abrahamic religions and was written 200 years before the Jews sat down to compiled their teachings. Its a poem about Heaven (Uranus) mated with Gaia (Earth) and produced 12 titans. However, of these Titans, 6 were inanimate titans. Of these 12 titans, was Zeus.

Zeus, in Greek mythology, would be the equivalent of our God, or as you called him YWHW/Eloah

And just to continue my rant, the Roman God equivalent to Zeus-Pater (Father Zeus) would be Jupiter (Jove-Pater, Father Jove).

AND THUS, the connection is made from Jove to Jehovah. Have you been a witness lately?

Etymology and semiotics is my strong suit.

(the hightlight at the end of time, is the fact that, humanity is accountable for its "dead flesh" on earth.............god doesn't appear to do nothing in particular, but the "rotting of the bodies", the ousting of the jews, as a result of sin, etc.)

The figure of "27/72", was obviously important to Leonardo Da Vinci and Nostramus, other perhaps, but perhaps its not true today.
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From the Turin Shroud of Jesus Burning, 4/11/1997...........plus about 72 days............you have the June Solstice............most biblical prophecies or day figures can be tied to the solstice/equinoxes, this is nothing new.

There are prophecies about the return of jesus, but not in the bible.............ofcourse most people go to Zechariah 14, but the language of Zechariah 14:5-7, corresponds to the statement of jesus pouring out a "new spirit/prince of the power of the air"........or the revealing of the abomination of desolation............

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William Miller's 1844 (A+B Sirius Closest Approach) + 72 Years = Fatima Prophecy 1917..............he talked a lot about jesus return on that date...............so this seems valid enough and if Jesus's 144 years for 144000 was 1917 his return, then 144 years later in 2061 at Halley's Comet then humanity is deceased.

72 appears valid, but its not a prophecy about the lord's return, its about the lord's new spirit pouring out, would be a better answer.