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originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: StoutBroux
According to Reuters,
-New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering employing the National Guard and out-of-state medical workers to fill hospital staffing shortages with tens of thousands of workers possibly losing their jobs for not meeting a Monday deadline for mandated COVID-19 vaccination.
TENS OF THOUSANDS - yikes. "V" used to stand for Victory. I guess it now stands for 'Vaccine'. So tomorrow is "V" day in New York. Good luck everyone.
So let's see ... if she pulls 10s of thousands of National Guard to prop up the health care system, they all have to come out of their own private lives leaving holes in other walks of life.
And how many of them are likewise not vaccinated?
Does she even have "10s of thousands" of vaccinated National Guard members she can just safely yank away from the rest of her economy?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ketsuko
New York may be the largest city to violate citizen's rights over the vaccine issue, but it's just one of hundreds of jurisdictions and companies doing so.
The U.S. Supreme Court needs to issue some rulings ASAP.
Hopefully the rulings will be citizen-friendly.
If not, Civil War is closer than ever.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy
Capitalism, of course.
Yeah, but even the glorious people's revolution cannot create skilled healthcare workers from nowhere.
They need us more than we need them.
originally posted by: nonspecific
You can have all the highly trained professionals that can no longer come to the UK due to brexit.
You guys are good with immigrants right?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy
Capitalism, of course.
Yeah, but even the glorious people's revolution cannot create skilled healthcare workers from nowhere.
They need us more than we need them.
originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ketsuko
New York may be the largest city to violate citizen's rights over the vaccine issue, but it's just one of hundreds of jurisdictions and companies doing so.
The U.S. Supreme Court needs to issue some rulings ASAP.
Hopefully the rulings will be citizen-friendly.
If not, Civil War is closer than ever.
U.S. Supreme Court...do something...hahahwhew...I like you carewemust, you're funny.
originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: ketsuko
I guess the bigger point I’ve been trying to make is that all unemployment related to the pandemic at the State level should be approved.
Many here were cheering states when they ended unemployment benefits because people needed “to get back to work”.
Well now the shoe is dropping on the other side with people equally in need of assistance. I will not shout “get back to work” or “your fault for not being vaccinated”. What needs to happen is for the government to approve benefits and assist them.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: nonspecific
You can have all the highly trained professionals that can no longer come to the UK due to brexit.
You guys are good with immigrants right?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy
Capitalism, of course.
Yeah, but even the glorious people's revolution cannot create skilled healthcare workers from nowhere.
They need us more than we need them.
They're going to be there tomorrow?
lolz
originally posted by: Superecho2021
a reply to: zosimov
That’s technically being fired for cause so why would anyone expect to receive unemployment pay ? No state in the union pays unemployment to those who are fired for a specific cause. They made a rule, whether I agree with it or not they are allowed to make rules for their employees. These rules often include dress codes and other intrusive steps into the private lives of workers.
There are ways to make money, way more than the usual unemployment checks the state issues. No evictions, doubtful they will cut water or power in winter. Don’t understand the surprise at this as it’s normal
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
originally posted by: Superecho2021
a reply to: zosimov
That’s technically being fired for cause so why would anyone expect to receive unemployment pay ? No state in the union pays unemployment to those who are fired for a specific cause. They made a rule, whether I agree with it or not they are allowed to make rules for their employees. These rules often include dress codes and other intrusive steps into the private lives of workers.
There are ways to make money, way more than the usual unemployment checks the state issues. No evictions, doubtful they will cut water or power in winter. Don’t understand the surprise at this as it’s normal
Well, I think the point you are missing is the fact that an 'employer', not the state, fires an employee. So, as I noted earlier, unless the employer is willing to contest the claim for unemployment (on behalf of the state), then the state has no legal authority to deny unemployment benefits.
You're making a leap of faith here when you say things like 'specific cause' and 'no state'. If these workers are only employed by the "State", then maybe yes, this is doable. But, I don't believe this is the case. Many of these employees are employed by private sector companies who contract to the state.
originally posted by: nonspecific
Offer them a green card and see how fast those planes turn up.
There's doctor's and nurses aplenty and all the ancillary staff you could ever wish for just waiting for that phonecall ....
a reply to: DBCowboy
originally posted by: nonspecific
Yeah but they won't realise that until it's too late.
India is not exactly a paradise and there's a huge number of highly skilled medical personnel over there looking for a better life.
a reply to: ketsuko