Aid and Comfort to the Enemy

Just asking...

Aid and Comfort to the Enemy

Keyword for anti-American search engines: Treason

Given that Biden and his cronies have ordered/facilitated/allowed-for the
forfeiture of thousands of tons of military hardware for pickup
by Taliban terrorists, ....

Democrat voters --- Explain why is this not conveyance of
aid and comfort to the enemy.

Given that Biden and his cronies have ordered or allowed for discontinuance
of force protection,

Democrat Voters--- Explain why this is not giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

Progressive commies will correctly argue that the Treason Clause applies only during times of war.

ATS Scholars --- Is the war against terrorism not war enough to warrant applicability of Treason?

ATS Scholars --- If the US Supreme Court rules that treason did not occur, then
what does apply?

What about espionage?

ATS Scholars --- If cryptographic, classified, sensitive, or highly sensitive materials are among the abandoned military
equipment, does this become an act of espionage (particularly if such abandonment was ultimately so ordered by general officers or politicians)?

originally posted by: Adonsa


ATS Scholars --- If cryptographic, classified, sensitive, or highly sensitive materials are among the abandoned military
equipment, does this become an act of espionage (particularly if such abandonment was ultimately so ordered by general officers or politicians)?

Check with General Petraeus. I bet he has an opinion.

a reply to: Adonsa

Yes, yes and yes.

At BEST this is an ironclad show of 'No Confidence' in our governments current ability to govern. This is the biggest blow to global freedom we have witnessed in probably the past 50 years. It IS treason, regardless of war time protocols to EVER aid and abet a national enemy.Period.

Here is the real treason by the Biden administration:
It is estimated that over 800,000 pieces of military equipment were left in Afghanistan during the rapid pullout of forces.

taskandpurpose.com... Wait until US weapons left behind by Biden are used to attack the US by the Taliban, then we have real treason, not imaginary treason like Trump is blamed for.

Still, the overwhelming volume of American small arms and other weaponry captured from Afghan military outposts by the Taliban is still a major propaganda victory for the group, if anything. Indeed, the militant group has taken pains to parade captured U.S. military gear — including rare weapons like the U.S. special operations forces FN-SCAR — in videos showcasing their capabilities. Several Taliban fighters had American-made weapons on display when they were pictured sitting in the presidential palace.

When pressed on the matter of U.S. equipment falling into enemy hands on Friday, prior to Kabul’s fall, the Pentagon appeared unprepared to address the potential issues. “We are always worried about U.S. equipment that could fall into an adversaries’ hands,” Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby said at the time. “What actions we might take to prevent that or to forestall it, I just simply won’t speculate about today.”
But days later, when asked if U.S. troops were taking action “to prevent equipment from falling into the hands of the Taliban by destroying it” during a Tuesday press conference, Maj. Gen. Hank Taylor of the Joint Staff provided a dismally simple response: “I don’t have the answer to that question.”

Has anyone in the mainstream media reported all the military supplies and equipment that are now in the hands of people determined to attack the US and kill us. They say this openly and even Twitter allows them to brag about their hate and determination to attack the US while banning conservatives for disagreeing with the Democrats on taking a shot.

a reply to: Adonsa

Given that Biden and his cronies have ordered/facilitated/allowed-for the
forfeiture of thousands of tons of military hardware for pickup
by Taliban terrorists, ....

Wait...what?

Didn't the USA/NATO establish the Afghan military, buy them all kinds of fancy military stuff, train them, pay them, for twenty years so that they could defend themselves against the Taliban? Were we supposed to take that Afghan military with us, lock stock and barrel when we left?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Explain to the young children, toddlers and babies that their life is about to turn to hell.

Biden just basically sealed their fate.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Explain to the young children, toddlers and babies that their life is about to turn to hell.

Biden just basically sealed their fate.

They don't care about Chicago, let alone Afghanistan.

a reply to: 38181

Deflect much?

What does any of that have to do with the USA, NATO and its allies' installation of the non-Taliban Afghani government, the military, that they trained and the Afghani soldier's salaries they paid, and all the tools and weapons that were given to them so that they could defend themselves against the Taliban?

Were we supposed to dismantle the Afghan military and take it with us?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Adonsa

Given that Biden and his cronies have ordered/facilitated/allowed-for the
forfeiture of thousands of tons of military hardware for pickup
by Taliban terrorists, ....

Wait...what?

Didn't the USA/NATO establish the Afghan military, buy them all kinds of fancy military stuff, train them, pay them, for twenty years so that they could defend themselves against the Taliban? Were we supposed to take that Afghan military with us, lock stock and barrel when we left?

No the second we realized what was happening we should have destroyed as much of the military stuff as possible.
The General in charge said he didn't know why there was never an order to destroy the equipment when we had a short window of opportunity.

a reply to: The2Billies

Whelp, it's not too late. I'm sure we have some MOABs laying around.

a reply to: Sookiechacha
They should have filled the gas tanks with sand and let the engine run until the engines seized up.

Easiest way to turn military hardware into paper weights.

originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
a reply to: Sookiechacha
They should have filled the gas tanks with sand and let the engine run until the engines seized up.

Easiest way to turn military hardware into paper weights.

Pretty much useless to the them without beans, bullets, batteries, and jet fuel, not to mention a “Zen and the Art of helicopter maintenance” handbook.

a reply to: 38181

This is true, but I'm sure the Chinese are more than happy to send their people in and supplies for this...
Even if we sabotaged the equipment, they would either fix or replace it (not to mention stealing our tech from it).

As for the Afghan military, we gave them 20 years to get it together. It is so sad that one may think perhaps they never o hold the county, that giving it back without a fight when we left was the plan all along....

Who knows, one day we may find out...

originally posted by: Adonsa
Just asking...
Is the war against terrorism not war enough to warrant applicability of Treason?

From our point of view, it is treason to aid/comfort the enemy. However... the war against terrorism has shifted gears, you are now the enemy!

a reply to: Adonsa

Trump pulling out 1,500 troops in stratigic positions allowed for the Taliban to rise further & steal equiptment for the rise. They didn't rise back up in 2 weeks, it's been on the rise since Trumps actions. He also gave so many weapons to Syrian anti-goverment campains that he armed 10 percent of them more. If Trump didn't cause so many civilian casualties the mind-set of the Taliban wouldn't be as adverse right now.

Obama let rise to ISIS by not doing anything about them because they weren't attacking the U.S directly until we attacked them with Trump.

Bush went into Iraq for WMDs & Afghanastan for Al-Queda because he didn't have the military means for war with Saudi Arabia.

Now we have joe biden who tells Americans to leave Iraq a year ago & they didn't listen. They had a year to amscray & they just plain refused. It was there choice to stay even though they were told time & time again our troops were leaving. So the Taliban are rising again because our less presence & are getting more weapons like all other latest sitting presidents. It is only a big deal because people regretting their decision to stay there even after being told to leave so many times.

Everyone needs someone else to blame for their own stupidy in choices of actions.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: 38181

Deflect much?

What does any of that have to do with the USA, NATO and its allies' installation of the non-Taliban Afghani government, the military, that they trained and the Afghani soldier's salaries they paid, and all the tools and weapons that were given to them so that they could defend themselves against the Taliban?

Were we supposed to dismantle the Afghan military and take it with us?

Maybe you were supposed to atleast give an heads up that you were leaving?
Do you really believe they spend 20 years doing that, to just leave like that? They knew damn well what would happen, and did NOTHING to try and prepare the afghan army just a little before they left.
All those young soldiers, your sons and daughters, died for NOTHING! And their deaths should have been treated with more respect than this crap

The US military left Bagram Airfield - its key base in Afghanistan - in the dead of night without notifying the Afghans, the base's new commander said.

General Asadullah Kohistani told the BBC that the US left Bagram at 03:00 local time on Friday, and that the Afghan military found out hours later.

from same source

The Americans left behind about 3.5 million items, Gen Kohistani said, including tens of thousands of bottles of water, energy drinks and military ready-made meals, known as MREs. They also left behind thousands of civilian vehicles, without keys, and hundreds of armoured vehicles, the Associated Press reported.

Link

a reply to: ToLiveIsToDie

Maybe you were supposed to atleast give an heads up that you were leaving?

Trump gave everybody a "heads up" back in Sept. 2020, when he announced the US would withdraw by May 1st, 2021.

a reply to: 38181
Sorry 38181, I just had to use your avatar. Did you all forget the Rambo movie 1988, at the end the credits thanking their loyal allies the Mujahideen. Now who did the Mujahideen morph into????? Oh yes, the Taliban.
The Taliban never left Afghanistan they just melded into the population. The US never learned their lesson from Vietnam. No matter how big and powerful your forces are you will never, ever beat an ideology. You can never beat an "army" when the army is part of the people.
Now if the enemy were forced to wear uniforms, like WW2, you could tell friend from foe. But when your enemy is the same as the people you can't tell friend from foe and not only that but the enemy lies and cheats, does not act in the decency of the rules of war you've lost before you start.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Trump gave everybody a "heads up" back in Sept. 2020, when he announced the US would withdraw by May 1st, 2021.

So that is gonna be your excuse for screwing over your allies and the rest of the world and the afghan people, for leaving tons of military equipment, food and water for the taliban forces etc. - "Trump did it"?

Just remember that when the USA has lost all of it friends, that it was your own god damn arrogance that did this.
Your country is no different from, China, Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran or North Korea and you should be ashamed of yourself...

a reply to: ToLiveIsToDie

I don't need an excuse. This isn't about me. I'm defending nothing. Just stating the facts, as I understand them.

But, that was the deal. The USA, its allies and NATO established, equipped, trained and paid salaries for Afghanistan's military, and their 300K soldiers/personnel to maintain and defend their government. After 21 years, their military should have come of age, you'd think.

But, things gets complicated when you factor in that Trump ordered the release of 5,000 Taliban terrorists, among them Afghanistan's new president, Beradar, as part of the peace offering, and why the military choose not to fight the Taliban take over.