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Originally posted by The Vagabond
You said a mouthfull bro . Lots to answer there (of course these aren't "answers"- just my take on the matter as it relates to what I would want to do.
Anti-vagrancy laws and sleeping arrangements: Don't look like or act like a vagrant and your worries are over. You don't even have to sleep out doors, because if you don't look like a vagrant you are allowed indoors, and people wont even notice if you fall asleep in a quiet corner somewhere, providing you're not one to snore.
Climate: If you are going to choose to become homeless, have the good sense to do it in a temperate, relatively dry place. Los Angeles isn't a bad choice by any means- in fact almost any city in Southern California, of any size from Palm Springs to LA, would be fine.
Cubicle Job: At least in my case, there's really no aversion to work. Just an aversion to being tracked, managed, and exploited. If I didn't have work I'd make work. The key in my mind would be to befriend people and work under the table with friends, or become involved in helping them with whatever random projects they may be up to in their own lives. Staying busy and earning a living would be an important obstacle- probably the biggest, as far as I'm am concerned. But no cubicle job. To hell with cubicles, and offices in general.
Personal defense: I can't imagine becoming the sort of failed human who sleeps in dark alleys in the ghetto and has to worry about watching his back. Stay on the good side of town, hygiene and change clothes daily, and be nice to people. That's your personal defense.
Money: Living in a safe area you could carry around your bankroll for the entire month in your wallet and never give it a second thought.
Saving up money and moving out to the woods: There's exactly the point- that's what I would be leaving society to get away from. I don't want to be bound to my land like a serf. I don't want to spend 30 years breaking my back in hopes of owning property some day, just to have the government tax it so much when I die that my heirs will start all over again as modern-day serfs. Being untraceable is a nice boon, but at least at this point in time, it wouldn't trump my primary motivation for wanting to escape this ridiculous social/economic structure we bind ourselves with.
If I gave up on having a place to call home today, I'd work, I'd own a vehicle, and I woudl keep my money for myself so that I could amass the profits of my work to invest in own future as I saw fit, as opposed to handing it over to the landlord (notice that I use that word in the fuedal sense- they haven't even changed the word. It really is analogous.)
So there's what I had in mind, hopefully in a little better context. I'm not talking about becoming a bum. I'm talking about living a fairly typical modern life on my own terms- and excercising my right to invest my income where I see fit, and not be locked into some sort of mandatory economy.
EDIT: I just thought I'd clarify that I don't plan to actually persue this course, at least not at the moment, simply because I have other things to get through before I can worry about sacrificing myself to prove a point about "modern life". Maybe after I've got my education out of the way, decided what I want to spend my life doing, and have had a good run of it, I'll do this with my later years and write a book about it.
For now it's sort of like my escape plan, in the event that I should decide to kill somebody, or should become wanted for some thought crime.
[edit on 21-3-2005 by The Vagabond]
Originally posted by The Vagabond
You could be right, but my experience has always been that people aren't paying attention, and/or don't care. Back when i was young, foolish, and prefered to ditch school, I discovered that you can camp out in a Carls Jr. fast food joint for four hours without the employees even realizing you're still there. I just hung out working on these logic problems for most of the school day, and after about 4 hours the lady is bringing somebody else their meal and says, "wow, you're still here?" and doesn't even hint that i should leave.
I really think that if you don't bug people they just assume they don't have the right to bug you.
EDIT: I just realized, I dont know if i posted this earlier or not. I actually have a friend who knows a guy who somehow blew the money his parents had been sending him- and ended up without an apartment. He basically lived out of the school library for a month, showering in the dorms, mooching food from friends, and basically camping out in the library between classes and until it closed, then apparently finishing the night in his car.
His story was partial inspiration for the idea that you could get around the hygiene problem.
[edit on 21-3-2005 by The Vagabond]