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Fraud proven, but no Investigation in New Hampshire

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posted on Feb, 14 2021 @ 11:27 PM
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What happened

After November’s general election, Democrat Kristi St. Laurent requested a recount of the Windham State Representative race. The November 12 hand recount produced a 300-vote increase for all 4 Republican candidates and a 99-vote decrease for her. The recount didn’t change the outcome, but no one could explain the huge 6% increase in Republican votes or the 2% decrease in St. Laurent’s.


Still to this day

This refusal by those charged with ensuring the integrity of our elections is inexcusable. Absent legal action – which would probably wind up in a Supreme Court led by Chief Justice MacDonald – we will never know what happened in Windham, or if any machine count errors occurred in the nearly 200 other towns that use those machines today.


Timeline
On November 16th, St. Laurent appealed the recount

On November 19th, the Attorney General received a letter from Windham town counsel Bernard Campbell requesting an investigation into the machine count error. The AG never replied to that request.

At its November 23rd meeting, the Ballot Law Commission “…voted unanimously to request the Attorney General to look into the functioning of the voting machines on election day

During a December 10th conference call with Secretary of State Gardner, he stated that he didn’t know what happened, that NH didn’t use Dominion machines, and expressed his support for an investigation

On December 13th, the Attorney General received a 9-page email from Dr. David Strang of Gilmanton asking for an investigation into the machine count error.

On December 15th, I emailed the Attorney General a letter expressing my serious concern about the Windham machine count error

During the January 4, 2021, WebEx discussion, Election Law office requested and subsequently received town documents, but continued to assert that they didn’t have the authority to check the ballots or investigate the machines despite the language in RSA 7:6(c) which specifically gives them that authority. ( OBVIOUS QUESTION, WELL WHO DOES HAVE AUTHORITY?, its ridiculous)

On January 8th, I emailed a letter cosigned by Sen. Birdsell (Windham is in her district) to the AG

February 5th, associate AG Ann Edwards and Election Law chief Nicholas Chong Yen reiterated the department’s refusal to test the voting machines or count the ballots.


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posted on Feb, 14 2021 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: 111DPKING111

Just relax.

Everyone knows that Democrats cheat.

Their voting base is not only OK with it, they cheer them on and help when they can.

So going forwards, people voting doesn't actually matter anymore.

The Democrats have your back and are helping you despite yourself!

For the children!

Well, the ones that they didn't abort.

Again, take a deep breath and relax.

Your new (forever) government is here to help you, despite yourself.

For Unity!!!



edit on 14-2-2021 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)


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posted on Feb, 14 2021 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: 111DPKING111
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February 5th, associate AG Ann Edwards and Election Law chief Nicholas Chong Yen reiterated the department’s refusal to test the voting machines or count the ballots.


Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo warned us that Chinese infiltration had occurred throughout national, state, and local governments across America.

Local elected officials, appointed officials, and judges, are being blackmailed or bribed to go along with what the CCP bosses want. (BTW...that includes President Biden)



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 06:50 AM
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During the January 4, 2021, WebEx discussion, Election Law office requested and subsequently received town documents, but continued to assert that they didn’t have the authority to check the ballots or investigate the machines despite the language in RSA 7:6(c) which specifically gives them that authority. ( OBVIOUS QUESTION, WELL WHO DOES HAVE AUTHORITY?, its ridiculous)

Much like what is going on in AZ; The State Legislators want to inspect and investigate the Maricopa County ballots and machines, and Maricopa County is refusing saying that no one has the authority to inspect and investigate the ballots or machines.

I don't know that's true... but I certainly know it should NOT be true. Kinda like the time way back when Al Gore was caught breaking election fundraising laws, and basically admitted it while oh-so-smugly claiming "no controlling legal authority." In other words, he knew he broke the law, but also knew there was no means of enforcement or punishment for breaking the law. Can't get busted or punished for election fraud if there is no means of investigating and confirming said election fraud.

This needs to change. There is no election integrity unless one can examine and confirm election integrity.



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 07:25 AM
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Much like what is going on in AZ; The State Legislators want to inspect and investigate the Maricopa County ballots and machines, and Maricopa County is refusing saying that no one has the authority to inspect and investigate the ballots or machines.

Obviously, they are wrong. The legislative can and should investigate. They have the constitutional authority and can force the issue with federal marshals if necessary, but that's not going to happen because then American's would begin to realize that the cheating has been going on for so long that it has become "just the way things are done" in American politics. Both parties have something to lose if wide-spread fraud is ever admitted.

The best way to prevent that from happening is to give it lip service, have some faux debates, and arrest a few nobody's, like the people in Texas last month. Problem solved. Move along, nothing to see here.



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 07:39 AM
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Obviously, they are wrong. The legislative can and should investigate.

Well, we see that. But Maricopa County sure doesn't want to see that!

This has already gone to the state Supreme Court, where the judge ruled that the court literally has no jurisdiction because the State Legislators have absolute authority under both the state and federal Constitutions. Maricopa County is trying to hide behind a technicality; i.e., no state law specifically grants the state legislature the power to inspect and investigate. It's literally all they've got.

As a result of these legal games, a bill has been introduced into the State Legislature to specifically grant investigation and inspection powers to the State Legislators. It's such a no-brainer that it should pass without dispute... but we'll see.



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: 111DPKING111
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February 5th, associate AG Ann Edwards and Election Law chief Nicholas Chong Yen reiterated the department’s refusal to test the voting machines or count the ballots.


Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo warned us that Chinese infiltration had occurred throughout national, state, and local governments across America.

Local elected officials, appointed officials, and judges, are being blackmailed or bribed to go along with what the CCP bosses want. (BTW...that includes President Biden)


Seems like the logical conclusions to me. We need proof, it's there and it needs to be brought to light. Otherwise, what you posted seems like the only thing that makes any sense me.



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
We need proof, it's there and it needs to be brought to light.


Negative psycology may work if people stopped asking for an investigation to prove the election was rigged AGAINST Trump and started demanding that the FOR Biden win is investigated and proven correct instead.

No proof of win, no win.

Denial can work both ways.
edit on 15/2/2021 by nerbot because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 11:42 AM
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Whats not brought up in the story is future elections, have they resigned themselves to hand counts going forward?

I can only think of bad reasons why this audit isnt being done, what possible good explanation can their be?

What if the recount was sufficient to overturn, who would investigate as apparently no one has authority to do so?



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 12:50 PM
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Your OP is fake news.

The article you reference does not "prove" that fraud occurred. In fact it never even mentions fraud. That's the part you just made up to reinforce your confirmation bias.

Election fraud is when someone intentionally and illegally takes action to alter the outcome of an election by increasing one party's count, decreasing another party's count, or both. In order for fraud to be "proven" there has to be one or more individuals identified, tried and convicted. Obviously, none of that has happened in this case.

There is no particular reason to think this case represents anything other than human and/or machine errors. The article says that the change of 99 votes for the Democrat represents a 2% change, meaning that she received 4,950 votes in the original count. The 300 vote increase for the Republican slate represents a 6% change, meaning that it received 5,000 votes. So in the original count, the Democrat lost by 50 votes out of a total of 9,950, or about 1/2 of 1%. Many electoral districts have a mandatory recount requirement when the outcome is that close, so the Democrat was perfectly justified in asking for a recount. When the recount was done, it appears that 99 votes had mistakenly been given to the Democrat in the first count so they were given to the Republican in the recount. It also appears that an additional 201 votes were found which didn't appear in the first count, and they all were for the Republican slate. That means that the total number of valid votes ended up as 10,151. The total number of mistakes made in the first count (omissions plus wrong assignments) was therefore 300. Three hundred mistakes out of 10,151 is about a 2.9% error rate. Research shows that the error rate in hand vote counting can commonly be 2% and that this level rarely changes the outcome of elections.

www.insidescience.org...

That's exactly what happened in this case, there was a nearly 3% error in the first count, but the Republican still won in the first count. After the errors were found and corrected, he won by a larger margin.



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: 1947boomer
"If theres not enough fraud, it is okay."

"To protect democracy"



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 01:11 PM
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Nothing fake about it


During a December 10th conference call with Secretary of State Gardner, he stated that he didn’t know what happened, that NH didn’t use Dominion machines, and expressed his support for an investigation into the machine count error.



a concerned citizen, and a Republican State Senator asked the NH Department of Justice to investigate the largest machine count error in NH history. The department refused.



During the January 4, 2021, WebEx discussion, Attorney General (now Chief Justice) Gordon MacDonald stated that he “didn’t have the statutory authority to investigate.” However, on January 6th, under increasing scrutiny, his Election Law office requested and subsequently received town documents, but continued to assert that they didn’t have the authority to check the ballots or investigate the machines despite the language in RSA 7:6(c) which specifically gives them that authority.


If they choose to decline for the reasons you state, say so. There is a long timeline of events and people within NH asking for an investigation. The UNWILLINGNESS of these officials to do THEIR JOB is disgusting. We should have confidence in the system.



posted on Feb, 15 2021 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: 111DPKING111
Whats not brought up in the story is future elections, have they resigned themselves to hand counts going forward?


If there is not meant to be a future election, any plan put forward will seem either overly weak OR drastic and unrealistic because it would not actually be a valid pursuit.

Early statements will indicate the wish for the solidity of a resolve.



posted on Feb, 24 2021 @ 11:39 AM
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The plot thickens
BREAKING! NH AG & SOS to “Take Possession” of the “Windham Incident” VOTING MACHINES!
granitegrok.com...



alarms went off throughout the Town of Windham when the AG’s office informed Windham of their plans to “take possession” of Windham’s voting machines (see appended email). Those are the SAME MACHINES and includes the SAME PEOPLE that are embroiled in the middle of the “Windham Incident” – the largest unexplained discrepancy in the history of New Hampshire between election day results and a hand recount. The fox wants to guard the hen house!



The audit should be performed in Windham – and under Windham’s control – as suggested here. According to multiple attorney’s opinions… NH laws already allow a town’s Selectmen to perform the test – WITHOUT APPROVAL of the AG or SOS:



So what’s the problem. Why is Windham being prevented by the AG and SOS from running their own test, on their own equipment, with their own ballots? What am I missing?



posted on Apr, 8 2021 @ 06:46 PM
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April 8, 2021

Significant Positive New Hampshire Development!


In a HUGE WIN for We, the People, and for New Hampshire election integrity, the NH Senate voted 24-0 just minutes ago to concur with the House amended version of SB43.

This Bill was championed by Senator Bob Giuda and will validate election integrity in our state by mandating a forensic audit on Windham’s 11/3/20 general election ballots and voting machines as configured on November 3, 2020.

The forensic audit will determine the huge discrepancy between the election day results and subsequent recount of Windham’s November 3, 2020 State Rep. race where a difference of 1,363 total votes from just 10,006 ballots was uncovered.
Source: granitegrok.com...

If the results show major problems, this Forensic Audit could be the door opener that forces similar audits in other states!





originally posted by: 111DPKING111
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What happened

After November’s general election, Democrat Kristi St. Laurent requested a recount of the Windham State Representative race. The November 12 hand recount produced a 300-vote increase for all 4 Republican candidates and a 99-vote decrease for her. The recount didn’t change the outcome, but no one could explain the huge 6% increase in Republican votes or the 2% decrease in St. Laurent’s.


Still to this day

This refusal by those charged with ensuring the integrity of our elections is inexcusable. Absent legal action – which would probably wind up in a Supreme Court led by Chief Justice MacDonald – we will never know what happened in Windham, or if any machine count errors occurred in the nearly 200 other towns that use those machines today.


Timeline
On November 16th, St. Laurent appealed the recount

On November 19th, the Attorney General received a letter from Windham town counsel Bernard Campbell requesting an investigation into the machine count error. The AG never replied to that request.

At its November 23rd meeting, the Ballot Law Commission “…voted unanimously to request the Attorney General to look into the functioning of the voting machines on election day

During a December 10th conference call with Secretary of State Gardner, he stated that he didn’t know what happened, that NH didn’t use Dominion machines, and expressed his support for an investigation

On December 13th, the Attorney General received a 9-page email from Dr. David Strang of Gilmanton asking for an investigation into the machine count error.

On December 15th, I emailed the Attorney General a letter expressing my serious concern about the Windham machine count error

During the January 4, 2021, WebEx discussion, Election Law office requested and subsequently received town documents, but continued to assert that they didn’t have the authority to check the ballots or investigate the machines despite the language in RSA 7:6(c) which specifically gives them that authority. ( OBVIOUS QUESTION, WELL WHO DOES HAVE AUTHORITY?, its ridiculous)

On January 8th, I emailed a letter cosigned by Sen. Birdsell (Windham is in her district) to the AG

February 5th, associate AG Ann Edwards and Election Law chief Nicholas Chong Yen reiterated the department’s refusal to test the voting machines or count the ballots.




posted on Apr, 8 2021 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: 1947boomerOkay, so what happened?



posted on Apr, 30 2021 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: 111DPKING111
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February 5th, associate AG Ann Edwards and Election Law chief Nicholas Chong Yen reiterated the department’s refusal to test the voting machines or count the ballots.


Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo warned us that Chinese infiltration had occurred throughout national, state, and local governments across America.

Local elected officials, appointed officials, and judges, are being blackmailed or bribed to go along with what the CCP bosses want. (BTW...that includes President Biden)


China's tactical position keeps getting better and better.

The more manufacturing we send over there, the worse the projections get for the USA's ability to hold out in a straight out war. (They'd replace their tanks/planes/boats faster than we could kill them.)

They've been threatening to consider a nuclear response to every trade deal that doesn't go their way, since some time in the 1990's.

The way their society is set up, the leadership could actually be BETTER OFF, in the aftermath of a nuclear war, depending on how good their bunkers are. The peasants would be more desperate than ever. Their rule would be forever uncontested.

They're kind of the elephant in the room. Nobody wants to openly discuss how vulnerable we are, so we just keep handing them parts of our economy to appease them.



posted on May, 1 2021 @ 06:07 PM
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My point is: its possible our government is very much afraid of China, but doesn't want to tell us.

So when their operatives intimidate or coerce someone, it's frightening indeed. Because there is nothing we can do back.


I hope I'm wrong, of course.



posted on May, 1 2021 @ 06:07 PM
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My point is: its possible our government is very much afraid of China, but doesn't want to tell us.

So when their operatives intimidate or coerce someone, it's frightening indeed. Because there is nothing we can do back.


I hope I'm wrong, of course.



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