What is coming.....More or less..

This year, China is emboldened, Civil Strife has been stoked, Authoritarian Statism has been vastly increased..the following was written 13 years ago...
"This post is more of a vent than any attempt at prediction or prophecy, there's an invasion by an overwhelming force usually either aliens or China (I don't know why those two). Im usually able to avoid capture, but barely, and always on the moves. Overall though, things go
pretty bad for us, at least at the start. I've had this dream for almost 2 years and now its almost nightly, and its starting to drive me insane. Short drive, maybe?"

I am convinced that we've been in WWIII for years now. It's been an asymmetrical, non-traditional war, fought mostly through propaganda and IT attacks. At some point, though, that has to spill over into what is often called meat space (as opposed to "cyber space").

When it does - and it will - it won't be pretty. And very, very few people will be prepared for it.

a reply to: watcher1960

this china overruns the world thing has been around for ages, nostradamus is said to have predicted something similar. someone has to be the enemy. i'm currently reading a great science fiction novel by a chinese author. so take a break from the internet and read a good book.

a reply to: oloufo

so take a break from the internet and read a good book.

Good idea.

Before they all are burned.

originally posted by: incoserv
I am convinced that we've been in WWIII for years now. It's been an asymmetrical, non-traditional war, fought mostly through propaganda and IT attacks. At some point, though, that has to spill over into what is often called meat space (as opposed to "cyber space").

When it does - and it will - it won't be pretty. And very, very few people will be prepared for it.

Another Cold War then.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: oloufo

so take a break from the internet and read a good book.

Good idea.

Before they all are burned.

from whom? and how are you going to burn something on the internet?
national socialism was a state of unleashing. after years of defeats and humiliations, the country was morally and economically ruined. fueled by hitler, nationalism flared up. first the books burned. then the people burned. millions were murdered. to compare this time with the conditions nowadays in america (or any civilized state) is misplaced.

I'm not sure it matters anymore what is coming.

I think we're just kinda...done.

Cooked, as it were. Eat up cuz it's over.

My friend spotted a UFO in Fargo, ND the other night ffs.

That does it for me.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: incoserv
I am convinced that we've been in WWIII for years now. It's been an asymmetrical, non-traditional war, fought mostly through propaganda and IT attacks. At some point, though, that has to spill over into what is often called meat space (as opposed to "cyber space").

When it does - and it will - it won't be pretty. And very, very few people will be prepared for it.

Another Cold War then.

Not exactly. The Cold War posed the existential threat of an actual all-out semi-conventional war; that is, a war that would have been fought with non-conventional weapons (nuclear) but whose end result would have been something akin to that of a conventional war, namely destruction of physical installations and loss of life.

This war is and will be different. The first and primary target is, I'd say, ideologies. Once ideologies are destroyed cultures and their supporting societies collapse. Not to say that there won't be conventional-type fighting and resulting destruction and loss of life, but that is not the primary strategy or goal. What would have, in previous wars, been considered normal and expected destruction and death will fall more under the classification of collateral damage.
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a reply to: watcher1960

Fourth-generation warfare (4GW) is conflict characterized by a blurring of the lines between war and politics, combatants and civilians.

Fourth-generation warfare is defined as conflicts which involve the following elements:

▶ Complex and long term
▶ Terrorism (tactic)
▶ A non-national or transnational base – highly decentralized
▶ A direct attack on the enemy's culture, including genocidal acts against civilians.
▶ Highly sophisticated psychological warfare and propaganda, especially through media manipulation, internet trolls, bots and lawfare

▶ All available pressures are used – political, economic, social and military
▶ Occurs in low-intensity conflict, involving actors from all networks
▶ Non-combatants are tactical dilemmas
▶ Lack of hierarchy
▶ Small in size, spread out network of communication and financial support
▶ Use of insurgency tactics as subversion, terrorism and guerrilla tactics
▶ Decentralised forces

We are more at the level of Fifth-generation warfare (5GW) for the past several years and it's really gone Hot.

Fifth-generation warfare (5GW) is the battle of perceptions and information including complex networks of 24/7 propaganda carpet bombing. 5GW is also a cultural and moral war, which distorts the perception of the masses to give a manipulated view of the world and politics.

We are no longer fighting a defined adversary in a defined battlespace for a defined period of time. Instead the 5th generation mission space is a continuous global battle of narratives that will play out over both virtual and physical space and encompass a range of violent and non-violent actions and effects.

And so to war...The slow escalation through the phases towards the open commitment of military forces in phase 5 will be achieved with subtly and ambiguity to such an existent that it will be difficult to know at which point the phase of conflict has changed. It will be extremely difficult to set ‘Red Lines’ and threshold for when to act. We may well find ourselves way past the point of intervention without having realized we were even in a contest, akin to the fable of the boiling frog. In this event the adversaries setting of the narrative will have achieved, at least partially, the desired outcome, without the commitment of forces to the lethal fight. To paraphrase Sun Tzu, This is the supreme art of 5th Generation War.

However, in 5GW, the state of war will never be declared as the adversary will seek to impose its values on another through the cognitive effect. The next conflict, be it between a state, a non-state or a combination of the two, will certainly be an economic and a social contest, whether or not it becomes a lethal military fight: it will be a contest over the cognitive mission space.

Fifth Generation Warfare, THE ART OF WAR, COGNITIVE EFFECT [PDF]

Next...

But, I don't think the Clowns in charge will be able to pull it off. Then again the Corona Op has still fooled many. I think a Cyberpandemic is more in the works as we've been told by the dark lord...

I've been coming here for doom porn since 2011. Pictures or it didn't happen.

WAR!

a reply to: watcher1960

No one is ready for what is to come.
Myself included.
S&F

a reply to: oloufo

The problem is nostradamus prediction isn't meant for US. It was meant for the world. So China is out of the equation. It is either demon or aliens or even mad scientist gaining power.

The belt and road initiative helps China mobilize to Africa, the Middle East and Europe.

a reply to: oloufo

The problem is not the "Science fiction" by the Chinese, the actual problem is the "Nonfiction" coming from there.

www.oodaloop.com...

Compare this report called "Unrestricted Warfare" with current happenings involving China and you'll see that it basically works like a checklist.

Gaining footholds in Africa for resources and geostrategic footholds ? Check
Buying assets in the western world for political and financial gain? Check
Building up dominance in the pacific region? Check
Increase western (and global, for that matter...) dependency on Chinese industrial products? CHECK

The list goes on and on, and to see all that should lead any clear thinking individual to the conclusion that there IS a plan in the works.

originally posted by: wdkirk
The belt and road initiative helps China mobilize to Africa, the Middle East and Europe.

That's about right, the whole world outside the Americas is screwed long term with China taking control of our infrastructure and economies.

There's going to be the new kids on the block too and I'm not talking about Joey McIntyre, I'm talking Iran, Turkey, Brics, India, too. Heck the Turks were in the news today, they're off to the moon soon so their leader says. When you get these new states out there in space I genuinely do see a space war breaking out that will drag us all down.

Life is mostly not physical but theoretical, just as books and ideas...

Most book burnings are strictly figurative, it does not have to be physical objects of paper and ink but ideas, thoughts, after all... Life is a thought along side everything else and all fire truly is? Death, death of something existing within this terra firma, the destruction of a thought... A displaced life... A fire of the mind but also a misunderstood idea in a message board. A barbaric being attempting to destroy an idea because he doesn't realize what fire and thought actually is.

Our eyes can be deceitful. Especially when fire is in them.

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: oloufo

so take a break from the internet and read a good book.

Good idea.

Before they all are burned.

from whom? and how are you going to burn something on the internet?
national socialism was a state of unleashing. after years of defeats and humiliations, the country was morally and economically ruined. fueled by hitler, nationalism flared up. first the books burned. then the people burned. millions were murdered. to compare this time with the conditions nowadays in america (or any civilized state) is misplaced.

originally posted by: incoserv
I am convinced that we've been in WWIII for years now.

Why?

Why are you convinced?

How do you define 'war' anyway?

To me, 'war' is a situation, where there's a high chance of being murdered by a bullet or an explosive, no matter where you go or where you live, and some big group is actively trying to murder vast amounts of people, and an opposing group of people is trying to do the same to them.

But that's just me.. I don't consider war happening in the area I live in until there are bullets flying and explosives exploding all (or some) of the place.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

I am curious; where did you get the picture from? I honestly do not know what to think about WW3.

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: oloufo

so take a break from the internet and read a good book.

Good idea.

Before they all are burned.

from whom? and how are you going to burn something on the internet?
national socialism was a state of unleashing. after years of defeats and humiliations, the country was morally and economically ruined. fueled by hitler, nationalism flared up. first the books burned. then the people burned. millions were murdered. to compare this time with the conditions nowadays in america (or any civilized state) is misplaced.

By cancelling it, just like is being done to conservative voices all across the internet for the last 4 years, youtube, twitter, facebook, tiktok etc. That is your digital book burning.