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n short, the toilet paper industry is split into two, largely separate markets: commercial and consumer. The pandemic has shifted the lion’s share of demand to the latter. People actually do need to buy significantly more toilet paper during the pandemic — not because they’re making more trips to the bathroom, but because they’re making more of them at home. With some 75% of the U.S. population under stay-at-home orders, Americans are no longer using the restrooms at their workplace, in schools, at restaurants, at hotels, or in airports.
Georgia-Pacific, a leading toilet paper manufacturer based in Atlanta, estimates that the average household will use 40% more toilet paper than usual if all of its members are staying home around the clock. That’s a huge leap in demand for a product whose supply chain is predicated on the assumption that demand is essentially constant. It’s one that won’t fully subside even when people stop hoarding or panic-buying.marker.medium.com...
“Not only is it not the same product, but it often doesn’t come from the same mills,” added Jim Luke, a professor of economics at Lansing Community College, who once worked as head of planning for a wholesale paper distributor. “So for instance, Procter & Gamble [which owns Charmin] is huge in the retail consumer market. But it doesn’t play in the institutional market at all.”
Georgia-Pacific, which sells to both markets, told me its commercial products also use more recycled fiber, while the retail sheets for its consumer brands Angel Soft and Quilted Northern are typically 100% virgin fiber. Eric Abercrombie, a spokesman for the company, said it has seen demand rise on the retail side, while it expects a decline in the “away-from-home activity” that drives its business-to-business sales. marker.medium.com...
The consumer TP industry is a highly automated 24/7 operation business that has literally razor thin margins thus most plants have zero capacity to ramp up as they are already running day in day out as prior to the pandemic demand was predictable
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: FredT
We went past a truck in Dallas that had rolled over and was on fire. Turned out to be a commercial toilet paper load and it was scattered over the interstate and on fire.
originally posted by: rickymouse
I never thought of that. I might be able to go to Rhinehardt and buy some commercial paper I suppose, trouble is that kind of paper doesn't fall apart so well, it might mess up our septic tank. There are still the expensive TPs in the store, but we can't use them because they also clog the septic. It needs to be pumped this summer again. every five years we have it pumped.
I'll just build an outhouse. I grew up on the farm using an old two seater. Had to shovel it out through the back little door every year with my dad after I turned eleven years old or so. I also have used leaves for toilet paper, but no leaves on the tree now, and the wife would use one of my guns to shoot me if I stripped the leaves off her houseplants.
originally posted by: StoutBroux
originally posted by: rickymouse
I never thought of that. I might be able to go to Rhinehardt and buy some commercial paper I suppose, trouble is that kind of paper doesn't fall apart so well, it might mess up our septic tank. There are still the expensive TPs in the store, but we can't use them because they also clog the septic. It needs to be pumped this summer again. every five years we have it pumped.
Think organic composting toilet. Or camping in an RV. You put the used tp in a garbage bag and get rid of it. We put all non human waste in a garbage bag and burn it. I haven't had my septic tanks pumped ever. I've lived in two different places in the last 20 years and each had septic. No pumping. In fact, I've never even checked them and I've never had any issues. Out of curiosity, I do plan to open my septic tank at my current location. Eleventh year here and I'm curious how everything looks because I hear comments others have made about their septic tanks. They pump regularly and also have problems with back up. I honestly think you need a somewhat full septic tank without chemicals that kill the natural bacteria. With freezing weather - like minus 35F, I hear of people having issues with their septic but I never have. Although I have no idea what level of fullness the system is.
I treat the septic like the pool of living bacteria that it is. No harsh cleaners, organic input only. I don't add Riddex or any of that stuff.
I know a lot of people think this is gross but whatever.
And yes, you have millions of people home that were previously taking care of business at work or school and they're going through the TP like crazy. Plus they're probably eating more with less things to do and well, more potty breaks equals more tp.
originally posted by: caterpillage
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: FredT
We went past a truck in Dallas that had rolled over and was on fire. Turned out to be a commercial toilet paper load and it was scattered over the interstate and on fire.
Hah, i was going to post that when i read the op,
Heard some truckers at work talking about it yesterday
toilet paper truck
I can imagine all the passerbys rushing over to grab all they can carry like its a load of dollar bills.