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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: StallionDuck
I was born with a heart issue that required open heart surgery when I was seven days old. I had a follow up procedure on my 22nd birthday.
Alcohol and coke has a greater effect on blood pressure and heart rate than weed. Hell caffeine has a greater effect.
If that's you're argument you're either going to have to support banning a ton of stuff or admit it's a weak argument.
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: roadgravel
When this war gets going, people will get to see real terrorism.
Wives and children of the authorities involved butchered. Lots of those authorities killed.
But it will take some losses to win so people will be OK with it. Right?
So we should just leave them alone? All of the deaths that are attributed from the years more of this activity - drugs - gangs - assassinations.. none of those deaths will count or matter, right?
What do you suggest?
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: StallionDuck
NO ... They wont! If you get rid of the supply, the demand is pointless because there wont be one. Again... it's not a one step process. More needs to go into this.
I humbly submit the great state of colorado.......
or if you like massachusetts.....
is the demand in those places "pointless"?
originally posted by: roadgravel
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: roadgravel
When this war gets going, people will get to see real terrorism.
Wives and children of the authorities involved butchered. Lots of those authorities killed.
But it will take some losses to win so people will be OK with it. Right?
So we should just leave them alone? All of the deaths that are attributed from the years more of this activity - drugs - gangs - assassinations.. none of those deaths will count or matter, right?
What do you suggest?
I am just mentioning it will not be "nice". If people understand and want it then go for it.
If I wanted to stop people from eating potatoes
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: StallionDuck
NO ... They wont! If you get rid of the supply, the demand is pointless because there wont be one. Again... it's not a one step process. More needs to go into this.
I humbly submit the great state of colorado.......
or if you like massachusetts.....
is the demand in those places "pointless"?
It astonishes me that we have to wait so long, cut through so much red tape to do what's actually right in this country. We can go to war at the drop of a hat but we can't take down known cartels who murder, kill and infest this country with their drugs and gangs!
For over a decade, under multiple administrations, the U.S. government had a secret agreement with the ruthless Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel that allowed it to operate with impunity, an in-depth investigation by a leading Mexican newspaper confirmed this week.
The solution to this issue does NOT involve prohibition. That just enriches the cartels. Legalize and control the means of production, distribution and sale. Tax it all. Viola! Cartels out of business.
originally posted by: GenerationGap
The solution to this issue does NOT involve prohibition. That just enriches the cartels. Legalize and control the means of production, distribution and sale. Tax it all. Viola! Cartels out of business.
So many people making this moronic claim. Acting like cartels would ever go legit and submit to regulation and taxes...
Guess what people will still buy when they get desperate? Heroin with out the tax. Heroin with out regulation. Illegal heroin that's more easily sold and bought than it is today. Heroin under the conditions you propose makes the cartels more powerful, not less.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
originally posted by: GenerationGap
The solution to this issue does NOT involve prohibition. That just enriches the cartels. Legalize and control the means of production, distribution and sale. Tax it all. Viola! Cartels out of business.
So many people making this moronic claim. Acting like cartels would ever go legit and submit to regulation and taxes...
Guess what people will still buy when they get desperate? Heroin with out the tax. Heroin with out regulation. Illegal heroin that's more easily sold and bought than it is today. Heroin under the conditions you propose makes the cartels more powerful, not less.
Wonder how they're getting it from Afganistan when we have a military occupation there.
It's almost like the war and opiate epidemic are correlated.
In 1991, doctors wrote 76 million prescriptions. By 2011, that number had nearly tripled, to 219 million, according to a report from the National Institute on Drug Abuse. This rise was made all the more dangerous when drug cartels began flooding the United States with heroin, which was cheaper, more potent, and often easier to acquire than prescription pain meds.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: StallionDuck
It astonishes me that we have to wait so long, cut through so much red tape to do what's actually right in this country. We can go to war at the drop of a hat but we can't take down known cartels who murder, kill and infest this country with their drugs and gangs!
Of course you cannot take them down. The drugs pay for the illegal wars.
U.S. Government and Top Mexican Drug Cartel Exposed as Partners
For over a decade, under multiple administrations, the U.S. government had a secret agreement with the ruthless Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel that allowed it to operate with impunity, an in-depth investigation by a leading Mexican newspaper confirmed this week.
www.thenewamerican.com...
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: CriticalStinker
eh the only deaths from pot are the people with the blackmarket "vape pen" set ups that are getting popcorn lung or what ever its called
Not true.
If you have a heart defect, pot probably isn't right for you. Pot does more than 'relax' you. It actually raises your blood pressure and your heart rate. If you have heart disease then you might die while using it. It's happened. It has other bad effects as well. It's not a symptom free drug that a lot of people think and are being told, quite like you're doing. It CAN have consequences.
originally posted by: charlyv
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: StallionDuck
NO ... They wont! If you get rid of the supply, the demand is pointless because there wont be one. Again... it's not a one step process. More needs to go into this.
I humbly submit the great state of colorado.......
or if you like massachusetts.....
is the demand in those places "pointless"?
Massachusetts made it twice as expensive to buy it legally, than if you got it from a dealer, so guess where the people that do not have money go?
This crony "Commonwealth" state fattens it's coffers as a first priority, limits the distribution enterprise they promised and could care less about putting weed cartels out of business. I like this state for other reasons, but this certainly is not one of them.