Halloween isn't the same

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
I am just saying it used to be such a fun time as a kid...

Well, yeah.

• We didn't have to work
  
• We didn't have to pay bills
  
• Someone washed our clothes
  
• Someone cooked our food
  
• The holidays were actually fun for us
  
• We didn't have a mother in law
  
• We could commit crimes and not be sentenced as adults

I don't mean being a kid, I meant specifically Halloween.

originally posted by: mblahnikluver

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
Too much violence in our country has ruined a holiday about evil.

Halloween has NOTHING to do with evil!!!!! Absolutely nothing about Halloween is evil, NOTHING!

I can't imagine why anyone would fault a Christian who steers clear of these holy days.
Why judge them for doing what today anyone can check and see what is right.

Pretty clear that if the root of the celebration is rotten so is the fruit.

Why is it a narrow path? Have your fun but don't think being a part of the things done in this world is the right path.

John 15:19 ESV
If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

Halloween had its origins in the festival of Samhain among the Celts of ancient Britain and Ireland.

www.history.com...

Why all the human skulls, witchcraft reference and serial killers than?
it is highly likely that originally there was human sacrifice on this "holy day". For our "fun" and entertainment we follow the ancient worship of evil and follow the steps of their practices on the dates originally given for their worship.

Deuteronomy 6:14 Never worship any of the gods worshiped by the people around you.

People set bonfires on hilltops for relighting their hearth fires for the winter and to frighten away evil spirits, and they sometimes wore masks and other disguises to avoid being recognized by the ghosts thought to be present. It was in those ways that beings such as witches, hobgoblins, fairies, and demons came to be associated with the day.

The period was also thought to be favourable for divination on matters such as marriage, health, and death. When the Romans conquered the Celts in the 1st century CE, they added their own festivals of Feralia, commemorating the passing of the dead, and of Pomona, the goddess of the harvest.

www.britannica.com...

Commercialism
1/3 of the candy produced is for halloween

A jack-o'-lantern (or jack o'lantern) is a carved pumpkin, turnip, or other root vegetable lantern associated with Halloween. ... The name is also tied to the Irish legend of Stingy Jack, a drunkard who bargains with Satan and is doomed to roam the Earth with only a hollowed turnip to light his way.



Just like they have brought back the Burning man festival in UK and US

Others have effigies of great size interwoven with twigs, the limbs of which are filled up with living people which are set on fire from below, and the people are deprived of life surrounded by flames. It is judged that the punishment of those who participated in theft or brigandage or other crimes are more pleasing to the immortal gods; but when the supplies of this kind fail, they even go so low as to inflict punishment on the innocent (trans. Anne Lea, in Koch and Carey 1995. 22).

www.digitalmedievalist.com...

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
How safe is too safe? With stories and images like the below, there is no such thing as too safe.

Heh. Nobody's giving away any weed.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Nyiah

Regardless of the real meaning or how it started or when it started, our kids and kids today still don't get to experience the greatness of Halloween that we got to experience as kids. That's the main point.

And my Halloweens aren't what my parents or grandparents experienced, either. I'm sorry guys, but complaining about the generational shifting that happens for holidays naturally from one generation to the next is pretty stupid. If we're to be fair about it, we have to consider that none of us got to have the same "fun" our own parents had in their day, either. I bet our parents bitched about those differences, too.

The kids are still having fun, and the adults are still doing costume parties & enjoying themselves. That's what matters -- that each age group's fun is fun for THEM, not us. Some folks around here are having their churchy harvest festival crap, some people are hosting parties, some are doing church trunk-or-treating, and the vast majority are gearing up to start hoofing around the neighborhood. I'd say we're doing fine overall if everyone's still coming home happy & entertained.

Edit: And I must point out that you make the holiday fun or not for yourself. If you're going to sulk in the corner over days of old not being today's routine, then sulk away, you're still not going to be any less unhappy unless you suck it up and make the effort to have fun yourself. Quit waiting for everyone else to make something enjoyable for you -- DIY here. It's not hard.

a reply to: Nyiah

but complaining about the generational shifting that happens for holidays naturally from one generation to the next is pretty stupid.

It's not stupid, it's as human as it gets. Longing for a better time maybe makes us stop for a moment and realize that something went wrong and we've gone too far. Why do you think people love retro or vintage items. It reminds them of a different, and yes better time. Why do you think people are crazy about decorating their houses in a fake farm style. They are all longing.

Edit: And I must point out that you make the holiday fun or not for yourself. If you're going to sulk in the corner over days of old not being today's routine, then sulk away, you're still not going to be any less unhappy unless you suck it up and make the effort to have fun yourself. Quit waiting for everyone else to make something enjoyable for you -- DIY here. It's not hard.

I agree your life is what you make it. However life is not just about you, it's about all of us. I think this thread alone shows a good majority prefer the Halloween of our youth to what is has become. It doesn't mean we can't have fun, or enjoy today.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

None the less, the "Halloween" we all know in the 20th and 21st centuries bears no resemblance to those days of old, and only the celebration remains...for now (until some butt-hurt liberal takes offense at that too and virtue shames the celebration into oblivion).

How do you know how it is taken by many it could be very much the same as old.
If you found out there was total evil done on that night, but no longer so public would you care? Do as you will I guess.

The same as the roots of the burning man, wicker man

here was an example their 2019

Come Embrace the Heat as the Playa’s “Friendliest Little Slice of Hell” returns for the 18th straight year! Daytime brings what Sinners need – shade, chill music, friendly conversation and slushy drinks.

But NIGHT brings what Sinners WANT – Flaming Libations and the ever popular WHEEL of SINS! Spin this brightly painted carnival wheel to expose your Sins again and again! (will it be Greed? or LUST?) Our highly skilled and dedicated staff will happily deliver absolution & encouragement with a FIRM hand, sending you dancing forth to SIN ANEW! So come earn your “Get Out of HELL Free” card and remember: Start your SINS at 7!

a reply to: Nyiah

If you think it's stupid you are welcome to not post. I wish my kids could have the memories and experiences I had, because they are superior. It's not about things being different for me it's that they are vastly inferior in this case.

It may have lost its deep old School fun factor.

But for kids it's still great for them. You just got older and lost that vision of things

a reply to: JAGStorm
The sugar base is different too, yes?
Back then it was cane-based and now its crap corn syrup-based.

originally posted by: ItsEvolutionBaby
a reply to: JAGStorm
The sugar base is different too, yes?
Back then it was cane-based and now its crap corn syrup-based.

I can't believe nobody has brought that up yet! Bravo!

Yes, even the candy now makes you more sick/fat!

a reply to: JAGStorm
Yeah - lots of cavities but at least we got to ingest the real sugar. None of us were obese
- yep, changes.



I forgot - snack sized treats were only available at Hallowe'en - just seeing those tiny chocolate bars in the stores meant we were close to the big treats day.

100 chan but no hallow special just reality showe n fake news..,, boo!

a reply to: JAGStorm

Oh who cares, aren't you an adult now?
It's just an Americanised commercial garbage. People getting dressed up in costumes that have nothing to do with halloween.

Meet Me in St. Louis ... Tootie throws flour in the neighbors face and tells her family she almost got hit by the trolley. But before that, all
The neighbor kids threw old furniture on a bonfire ...

a reply to: JAGStorm

Aye its changed a lot since I was a kid , and its change a lot in general in terms of celebrating Samhain

I dont have children of my own so I dont take them "guising" is the term we use in Scotland for "trick or treat"

Anyway , no one celebrates Samhain for what it was originally intended
now its just a corporate mess
just like christmas

But you can change that

a reply to: ziplock9000

well yeh , even the costumes arent anything to do with Samhain
because you are meant to disguise yourself as the dead or a ghoul or some other ghastly phantom
so the dead will not confuse you for the living and torment you until spring.

Not sure how dressing like a slut or a super hero will disguise you as the recently deceased

Hey maybe thats why the world has gone to #, lots of people have demons or ghosts haunting them
as they failed to disguise themselves on Samhain and are being personally tormented.

a reply to: ItsEvolutionBaby

Sugar is far too expensive to manufacture now so its all that amino sweet crap they pump into kids sweets now !

crazy , we spent so much wealth and made so much wealth from the sugar trade
now its not even really used

All those slaves and now its a resource that isnt really in many foods because of the synthetic #

a reply to: SeaWorthy

there is nothing rotten about halloween or samhain as it is originally known

its a celebration of the end of the harvest and beginning of winter, it just so happens to coincide with the time when the veil thins between worlds and so the Celts would often ensure they weren't haunted by spirits disguising themselves as the dead.

If pagan celebrations are so rotten why did Christianity steal them for their own celebrations ?

Huh, I must live in a weird neighborhood. Kids in normal costumes, no one with weird buckets, we even had 3 adults trick or treating along with their kids, which was a bit weird. Some of the slightly older kids were alone, although many did have parents along, that's the biggest change I see now. Some kids came later with pretty full pillowcases, which is what I did as a kid.. we'd go until we could barely carry our pillowcases, sometimes even dropping a pillowcase at home to go refill.

Didn't see one "sexy" or political costume, was pretty normal, with some plain costumes, and some well done ones as well. I guess it's all where you live? My last place, we were lucky to get a couple kids. This year we got plenty.