500 Prominent Scientists warn U.N.---There is NO Climate Emergency

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Be specific please

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Accurate Predictions About Climate Change

a reply to: PublicOpinion

You know, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

CO2 has been higher (much much higher) in earth's history and much much lower
Temperature has been much higher in the past and much lower.

where is the catastrophe...

Don't make me wade through a mile of internet trolling.

a reply to: Phage
Hey Phage what do plants in a greenhouse breathe? CO2!!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole thing is a ruse. The absolute modus operandi of the Marxist globalist push. These idiots that push this will next demonstrate how killing themselves helps the planet!! Hope they have a great time.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

But you're aware that the temps were higher back then as well?

You know, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And sometimes a working clock gets mistaken for a broken one.
I wont make you wade through anything, agreed to disagree.

Back to the 500 scientists who turned out to be a mere dozen or something... a bit like "The 100" with less sex appeal.

originally posted by: incoserv
BUT THE LITTLE AUTISTIC KID FROM SWEDEN SAYS IT'S TRUE, SO IT MUST BE!

(Plus, I wrote that in all caps, so that adds credibility to my claim.)

Lol

a reply to: underwerks

let’s look at who’s behind Greta
According to Cory Morningstar article “The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg”
Foundation - “We Dont Have Time”- Tech Co., Al Gores Climate Reality Project, 350.org, Avaaz, Global Utmanimg, the WORLD BANK, the World Economic Forum, Our Revolution and the Sanders Institute, This is Zero Hour, the Sunrise Movement and authors of The Green New Deal, her mom a member of WWF, Climate Finance Partnership, Business and Sustainable Development Commission, The Global Commission on the Economy and Climate, The New Climate Economy-World Resources Institute, Natural Capital Coalition, Stockholm Institute, Extinction Rebellion, IKEA, UNEP, Carbon Disclosure Group, United Nation Global Compact, Executive Director of Greenpeace, USCAN, connections to the IMF, UN agencies, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Commissioners of the Global Ocean Commission including JOHN PODESTA, The Nature Conservancy. Sierra Club, Hewlett, Packard, Energy, Rockefeller, Sea Change, MacArthur Foundation, and I believe somewhere in there was the CARLYLE Group. Oh and Friends of The Earth an extremely radical environmental group. That’s not all but I’m tired of typing. Oh yes and the Club of Rome www.clubofrome.org...

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

And that without a climate scare, the oil cartel would still be selling oil.....and the alternative energy people would be doing what?

It's laughable to think that renewable energy companies have the reach or funding to pay off scientists and create groups on the level of the entrenched billion dollar oil industry.

There is a conspiracy to promote an agenda. But it isn't from the renewable energy people.

They do if powerful people in governments make it a priority to support renewables, and hamstring oil and gas, through policy.

originally posted by: underwerks


You're correct, but not in the way you think. It's about the consolidation of wealth and power for the oil and gas companies that stand to lose millions of dollars if they have to change their business model.

Lets look at who CLINTEL is..
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So, what you are saying is that the group includes a lot of real scientists, and you are not, yet because they don't kowtow to your left-wing BS agenda you want to claim their knowledge doesn't matter and they must all be paid by oil companies?..."

In case you didn't know, "oil and gas companies" are in fact in favor for a global carbon tax and the carbon credits scam, and renewable energy...

They even have whole sections on "sustainability," "carbon credits" and their fight to help stop climate change... including...

The Oil and Gas Climate Initiative (OGCI) today announced further initiatives to accelerate the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions and support the goals of the Paris Agreement, ahead of OGCI’s annual event in New York City.
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OGCI Climate Investments, OGCI’s US$1 billion-plus fund, has nearly doubled the number of investments in promising clean technologies over the year. The fund now has a total of 15 investments in its portfolio. Climate Investments actively supports these companies in deployment and scale-up as well as continuing to search for additional opportunities in its focus areas.
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Oil and Gas Climate Initiative announces progress towards methane target and new CCUS initiative to scale up actions towards climate goals

They are even in FAVOR for the "Paris agreement..."


So despite your false claims oil and gas companies are in fact in bed with the climate change lunatic crowd...

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
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Back to the 500 scientists who turned out to be a mere dozen or something... a bit like "The 100" with less sex appeal.

You are confusing this group with the claim that the IPCC has thousands of climate change scientists whom all agree in AGW, when in fact it was more like 40-50(?) and the majority of them in fact had different opinions... Several of them in fact are scientists whom left the IPCC because it has "politicized climate change" and the "policy makers" (whom were/are the majority of the thousands of so called experts) didn't/don't care about real science...

originally posted by: Extorris
a reply to: queenofswords

I checked all the links.

Where is the list of the 500 "Scientists"?

They don't exist, the thread title is as "fake news" as it gets.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

This nonsense about the oil companies is one of my favorite lies in the entire climate change religion. Big oil companies like Shell and BP are spending billions researching alternative energy. If and when the world does move on from fossil fuels, they will simply move on with it. They're not scared of it. It's not gonna bankrupt them. The entire premise makes no sense.

a reply to: vonclod

actually... they do exist!

clintel.nl...

There name will be released on October 18, 2019

this is a copy of the letter

clintel.nl...

this is a copy of the press briefing

clintel.nl...

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

We'll see I guess, it says 500 scientists and professionals. I'm assuming a mix, and it will be interesting to see what "professions"

I'm not for Carbon taxes, but we need to change our ways, we disrespect the big ball we live on.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Metallicus
They might listen if it were actually about the climate, but it is about consolidation of power and wealth redistribution.

You're correct, but not in the way you think. It's about the consolidation of wealth and power for the oil and gas companies that stand to lose millions of dollars if they have to change their business model.

Lets look at who CLINTEL is..

The UK’s principal climate science denial group, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), founded by former Chancellor Nigel Lawson in the run-up to the 2009 Copenhagen climate summit, is also well-represented in the campaign.

At least four members of its Academic Advisory Council feature in the letter’s signatories, and other contributors to the GWPF have also backed the “declaration”.

German signatories to the letter include a spokesperson for the European Institute for Climate and Energy (EIKE), which a Der Spiegel investigation earlier this year found had been working closely with the insurgent, far-right Alternative for Germany party to campaign against action on climate change.

In addition to the Cato Institute's Richard Lindzen, the list features numerous figures from US-based libertarian groups, including Patrick Michaels of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and Charles Battig and Willie Soon from the Heartland Institute, which provides a total of 12 signatures alone. All three organisations are members of the Atlas Network, a Koch-funded international umbrella body of free-market groups.

Other UK signatories include directors and former directors of lesser-known oil and gas companies, as well as five Fellows of the Geological Society, a professional body representing Earth scientists.

Link

It's ironic that the same people who say there's a left-wing climate change conspiracy see no conspiracy in groups like the Kochs and oil companies backing anti-science groups such as this.

Let's look at who DeSmog UK is...

Who We Are
DeSmog UK was launched in September 2014 as an investigative media outlet dedicated to cutting through the spin clouding the debate on energy and environment in Britain. Since then, our team of journalists and researchers have become a go-to source for accurate, fact-based information regarding misinformation campaigns on climate science in the UK.

Our research, articles and investigations are routinely highlighted in local and international news outlets including the Guardian, the Independent, the New Statesman, Channel 4 Dispatches, Grist, EcoWatch and Daily Kos, to name a few.

Dedicated to in-depth, fact-based reporting, DeSmog UK aims to investigate and analyse the undue influence of climate science denial and the fossil fuel industry on UK energy and climate policy. Through our news, opinion, and analysis we seek to raise the level of public discourse.

DeSmog UK abides by the guidelines outlined in the IMPRESS standards code, as well as the NUJ Code of Conduct. Please find details below on how to make a complaint.

Where We're Coming From
Ninety-seven per cent of peer-reviewed climate studies agree with the scientific consensus that manmade global warming is real and that the burning of fossil fuels is a significant factor.

As the stakes rise, conversations in Britain about energy and the environment have become increasingly dysfunctional. Vigorous debates have been replaced by public relations battles and smear campaigns that don't benefit anyone. DeSmog UK's goal is to help restore healthy public conversation on energy and environment.

So they are a bunch of left-friendly 'fact checkers' whi still believe the 97% consensus is real.

Hard pass on anything they regurgitate from the typical talking points, but kudos on a meager attempt at debunking.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

We'll see I guess, it says 500 scientists and professionals. I'm assuming a mix, and it will be interesting to see what "professions"

I'm not for Carbon taxes, but we need to change our ways, we disrespect the big ball we live on.

The ball we live on really doesn't care

a reply to: Teikiatsu

I don't know how to quantify the planet cares, so..sure.

More the problem is people don't care, when $ are involved..generally speaking. There are people who care, and some effort is being made..enough? probably not

Do you think we can carry on the way we have for the last few centuries?

a reply to: MrPlow

The right just hates people of color, gay people, and women so #ing much that they would deny the nose on their face if a "libtard" points it out.

That's a lie.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Metallicus
They might listen if it were actually about the climate, but it is about consolidation of power and wealth redistribution.

It's ironic that the same people who say there's a left-wing climate change conspiracy see no conspiracy in groups like the Kochs and oil companies backing anti-science groups such as this.

I haven't ever seen anything from the opposing "man made climate change" side that thinks there isn't a conspiracy by Big Oil. We've know that for decades.

This is not an "anti-science" group either. They are actually scientists calling out the left on their bullshlt just like the hypocrite left like to call out Big Oil on their bullshlt.

But it's so much deeper than that. It's a proverbial biblical battle between oil and gas and financiers using political narratives like fake as hell "man made climate change".