Reincarnation and the Golden Rule

Reality is a circle and so are you. There's no "escaping it", and the sheer idea of wanting to "escape it" is itself a function of what...? The circle.

So what becomes of those people who become trapped in confusion, in idols - in asymmetrical fantasies which lead to a life of continuously violating the golden rule?

The logic is clear: if reality is ecological, and all matter cycles through and between other-like matter, then the being of the self - an ecological reality with no individual, ontological substance - will find its place in a next life that makes up for the negatives or positives of the life that it has lived. In this way, everyone is exactly where they "deserve" to be.

Yet, of course, free will exists, because we are always able to veto our plans to act a certain way. The fluxes of existence are not pan-determinative, but probabilistic. When we truly seek our own good, that good is synonymous with the greater good, and hence, is fundamentally about living by the golden rule.

What does this mean then for the individual self? What are you, and what is your so-called "soul"? Did some mystic initiation ceremony or your own personal meditative experience give you the impression of having been so-and-so in a previous life? One would think that only someone truly organized by love would know what facts are, since material cosmos of which we are a function is built by symmetry, and hence, only a mind which tracks that symmetry and therefore incarnates it into its brain functioning would be able to know reality as it is. What of the rest - those people who believe themselves to be elites, perennially reincarnating because the universe supposedly rewards wickedness and vileness and amorality? Those people are under the control of attractors - or "spirits"; these are literally 'symmetry sinks', of vectored energy which links human selves up with other selves, serving as a 'shared-narrative' for making sense of life. It is an idealization, or in biblical lingo, an "idol": a fantasy, a wish, a defense mechanism to keep the facts which are correlated with their brain functioning away.

The selves of previous peoples are certainly woven in the fractal memory of bodies that have lived according to a certain idol...It is afterall the attractor which organizes a humans functioning, and just as a past human had the same psychodynamic needs as a present day human, why wouldn't 'their truths' and 'their reality' be experienced - confusedly - as "your past life"? Attractors are treasure chests of memories, but they aren't your memories. This would assume that you have some sort of ontological essence apart from your body, and that just isn't the case.

A person with a true spirituality knows this, and is perfectly happy with it. Reincarnation happens, becoming a self happens, but having a self only lasts so long as you're alive, after which you dissolve back into the nothingness you came from, absorbed into the being of creation. There is nothing apart from the "logos" - or logic - which created the way you value the world. There is no independent self which chose this life, but there is always a human self that can think logically, and know the world in terms of the symmetry which creates it. To know the utter legitimacy and rightness of the golden rule has everything to do with understanding your inherent vulnerabilities. Denying vulnerability while being afforded by others the ability to live strongly (i.e. secret societies) - all for an ontological delusion that will only throw you for an unknown number of lives in future suffering is rather, stupid, I would say. Since the human self is a social phenomenon, we either grow together and cement a world of future joy by living in terms of natural law, or we # ourselves up by pretending that we will somehow reincarnate again into a desirous situation, which isn't going to happen, since the entropy we've produced in the total system is like a gravity which will pull you towards the ecological contexts that will grant you nothing but a life of suffering.

Conversely, we can realize that our feelings are always functions of the life we've lived, which is correlated to the events we've experienced. The events we've experienced in turn have had their own symmetry-structure i.e. the feelings which motivated so-and-so to relate to me that way which affected me this way, and all the complex permutations which come from observing others act and the way that affects us. Its complicated, but it isn't beyond our ken to know it.

People who say "I'll live and die on my own terms" - a Nietzschean fantasy, are an example of people who keep adding more and more $hit to their barrel, not having any clue how seriously they need to take their existence. The problem is, people want to just 'be for themselves', which is in opposition to how reality works, i.e. we're relational beings through and through. There is absolutely no outlet from this reality, only a reconfiguration of the confused dynamics which makes you value asymmetry, individuality, and the irrationality of believing yourself to be metaphysically self-sufficient, when development has never worked that: you were a freaking baby once. You winced and cried, and felt horrible, and were trained by mean and disconnected and confused adults who punished you to think the way they think, until it became rewarding, and then a need, a value, an ideal, and idol-that-needs-to-be-true, yet won't be, and just as you can cause others to suffer and you choose not to care, so to will be done to you.

The wheel of suffering will end when you choose to care. When you stop assuming reality is bad, and that logic is illusory - when you stop thinking that there are two realms, instead of a singular reality, the material world, which is the body of God itself. When you can realize that all of this is good, and beautiful, and amazing, then you will find your freedom.

As climate change kicks in, these facts will be smashed into the faces of humans; but unfortunately, present-day humans are too addicted to the easiness of the present system to realize how awful the world will become, and only then we they value what they had, and seek to live in conformity with the world - and come to realize the beauty and goodness of it - and the golden rule, the rejected cornerstone of the house, will be restored as the fundamental reality - the fundamental template, or fractal - which shapes the minds and feelings and values of humans.

a reply to: Astrocyte

Well they say that the law of one, is the law of confusion. And the law of confusion, is by nature off course, quite confusing. And so round and round we go. What anybody is getting at? Nobody knows.

a reply to: Astrocyte


My favourite thinking buddy, hello! Your thesis is interesting, however it will be a more than a decently to try provide some tinkering and proof towards what you say. Otherwise it is more like a lecture rant, than anything else.

So nearly right. We live, we die, we do it again. Even those who think such a thing as immortality is possible. The universe dies, the universe is born. So are we. a reply to: Astrocyte

a reply to: ARM1968

You got that right without perspective, and space, it might look like a circle. From the POV being aware of time.

From another POV it might lock like a wave, or a spiral.
one will understand eternity the other cycles.

Seeing the full 3D picture

It's a helix.

See you on the flip side.

Sincerely NoClue

originally posted by: Astrocyte

The wheel of suffering will end when you choose to care. When you stop assuming reality is bad, and that logic is illusory - when you stop thinking that there are two realms, instead of a singular reality, the material world, which is the body of God itself.

What is appearing/happening (the material world) is God..... and there is nothing else beside That.

I am That I am.

When you can realize that all of this is good, and beautiful, and amazing, then you will find your freedom.

Freedom unveiled..... Just the one life in freefall

a reply to: Astrocyte

So "reincarnation of the soul doesn't happen" and yet

since the entropy we've produced in the total system is like a gravity which will pull you towards the ecological contexts that will grant you nothing but a life of suffering.

you make assumptions of future suffering.... sigh.....

As climate change kicks in, these facts will be smashed into the faces of humans; but unfortunately, present-day humans are too addicted to the easiness of the present system to realize how awful the world will become,

And whats the big deal...as you stated "everyone is exactly where they "deserve" to be."

In this way, everyone is exactly where they "deserve" to be.