I guess Obama opened the door to take down the Democratic party. . .

www.politico.com...

It's seems President Obama started his own organization outside of the DNC. This has lead to new rules for the primary hopefuls to not start organizations for their own agenda.

Organizing for Action, the political group that grew out of Obama's first presidential run, decentralized power from the DNC by building a parallel infrastructure that competed for donors. It was a move that many state party chairs loathed, and in the years since have faulted for Democrats' losses at the gubernatorial and statehouse level.

We are often the means for our own demise, is something that comes to mind when thinking about this.

For me, having the candidates start their own movement is not a bad thing. But I do recognize how that hurts the DNC.

I'm not a big fan of political parties as a whole, as such I will support each individual to share their platform.
I do recognize some views are more destructive to society than others.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

President Trump said, "Never interfere with an enemy who is in the process of self-destruction"

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

President Trump said, "Never interfere with an enemy who is in the process of self-destruction"

He may have repeated it, he sure did not invent that saying. Napoleon Bonaparte probably came up with it.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

President Trump said, "Never interfere with an enemy who is in the process of self-destruction"

He may have repeated it, he sure did not invent that saying. Napoleon Bonaparte probably came up with it.

Are we to assume you do not favor strong leaders from outside the USA? I prefer a leader (tempered by a horde[congress] ) to speak and have learned from past leaders.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Napoleon 2020...make America chique again...lol

But this is the part I don't get (forgive me if it is ignorant)...repulican talking about democrate and vice versa as the enemy....you are still one people right?

Peace

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

President Trump said, "Never interfere with an enemy who is in the process of self-destruction"

He may have repeated it, he sure did not invent that saying. Napoleon Bonaparte probably came up with it.

And.....
Did anyone say that Trump came up with that ?
I quote historical figures all the time.
Especially Sun Tzu
And , by your use of the term "probably" , I would say you don't know who came up with the saying either.

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Napoleon 2020...make America chique again...lol

But this is the part I don't get (forgive me if it is ignorant)...repulican talking about democrate and vice versa as the enemy....you are still one people right?

Peace

Not any more.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Which democrats will join him?

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Napoleon 2020...make America chique again...lol

But this is the part I don't get (forgive me if it is ignorant)...repulican talking about democrate and vice versa as the enemy....you are still one people right?

Peace

Not any more.

I remember a time when it was considered bad manners to discuss politics and or religion in the neighborhood so to say.
Today is another story. We have been balkanized as a nation rather than the great melting pot of bygone days.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Which democrats will join him?

Headline gives the answer

Democrats disavow Obama's creation of rival political group
The 2020 field pledges not to form a separate political arm from the DNC

Serious question, and I really do not know the answer:

Is the allowed two time mandate for presidency tied to the membership in a specific party? Or to the specific person?

Could Obama be president *again* while being the winning leader of a third party? Under completely hypothetical circumstances?

a reply to: ManFromEurope

No third terms.

Amendment 22

Section. 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

It says no person, and not a thing about party affiliation. So you can't hold office as a Democrat and then switch party and hold office again for more terms. You're still the same person which is what the Amendment cares about.

The only way Obama could hold office as president again would be if the COTUS were scrapped or amended to allow for it, and under the current political reality of the country that's not happening.

a reply to: ketsuko

Ah, okay, thanks.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

It's one of the reasons things can be stable. No matter how bad a president may be or how much you might dislike him (or her) you know you only have to stick it out for about 8 years before they are gone. No el presidente for life like they have in far too many countries.

originally posted by: contextual

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Which democrats will join him?

Headline gives the answer

Democrats disavow Obama's creation of rival political group
The 2020 field pledges not to form a separate political arm from the DNC

I don't believe them. Obama offers them salvation.

a reply to: operation mindcrime

All Americans used to love America, we had that in common, now we have a group that hates America that no one else likes.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

President Trump said, "Never interfere with an enemy who is in the process of self-destruction"

He may have repeated it, he sure did not invent that saying. Napoleon Bonaparte probably came up with it.

Are we to assume you do not favor strong leaders from outside the USA? I prefer a leader (tempered by a horde[congress] ) to speak and have learned from past leaders.

Strong sure! dangerous and unstable..no!

a reply to: Gothmog

And , by your use of the term "probably" , I would say you don't know who came up with the saying either.

Nope, it has been attributed to NB, but not 100% confirmed, I doubt Trump even said it anyway. I'm sure CWM though his boy wrote whilst sitting on his gold throne

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Gothmog

And , by your use of the term "probably" , I would say you don't know who came up with the saying either.

Nope, it has been attributed to NB, but not 100% confirmed, I doubt Trump even said it anyway. I'm sure CWM though his boy wrote whilst sitting on his gold throne

And , possibly Woodrow Wilson..and others
You would have been better off leaving it at "probably"

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Napoleon 2020...make America chique again...lol

But this is the part I don't get (forgive me if it is ignorant)...repulican talking about democrate and vice versa as the enemy....you are still one people right?

Peace

Lol