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A federal judge in Texas has declared that an all-male military draft is unconstitutional, ruling that "the time has passed" for a debate on whether women belong in the military.
The decision deals the biggest legal blow to the Selective Service System since the Supreme Court upheld the draft registration process in 1981. In Rostker v. Goldberg, the court ruled that a male-only draft was "fully justified" because women were ineligible for combat roles.
But U.S. District Judge Gray Miller ruled late Friday that while historical restrictions on women serving in combat "may have justified past discrimination," men and women are now equally able to fight. In 2015, the Pentagon lifted all restrictions for women in military service.
The case was brought by the National Coalition For Men, a men's rights group, and two men who argued an all-male draft was unfair.
Miller said Congress has never fully examined whether men are physically better able to serve than women. In fact, he noted in a footnote, "the average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today's combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle."
Quoting the Supreme Court's ruling overturning bans on same-sex marriage, Miller ruled that restrictions based on gender "must substantially serve an important governmental interest today."
But the ruling came in the form of a declaratory judgment and not an injunction, meaning the court didn't specifically order the government how to change Selective Service to make it constitutional.
This push for integration before we had unbiased data to work with is going to put a lot of women in danger in the training school let alone the battlefield
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: dug88
Not including women in the draft wasn't about women's ability to serve in the military. Women have been serving for a long time in various capacity.
The selective services not including women had a different point. During major wars it is unwise to send all our women off to die. In too many ways to count they are invaluable assets to our society. Frankly, more so than men.
Don't feed steak to a starving dog when scraps will do the trick.
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: dug88
Not including women in the draft wasn't about women's ability to serve in the military. Women have been serving for a long time in various capacity.
The selective services not including women had a different point. During major wars it is unwise to send all our women off to die. In too many ways to count they are invaluable assets to our society. Frankly, more so than men.
Don't feed steak to a starving dog when scraps will do the trick.
The selective service not including women had nothing at all to do with being able to spawn.
It was a cultural difference which is gone now.
originally posted by: EternalShadow
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: dug88
Not including women in the draft wasn't about women's ability to serve in the military. Women have been serving for a long time in various capacity.
The selective services not including women had a different point. During major wars it is unwise to send all our women off to die. In too many ways to count they are invaluable assets to our society. Frankly, more so than men.
Don't feed steak to a starving dog when scraps will do the trick.
The selective service not including women had nothing at all to do with being able to spawn.
It was a cultural difference which is gone now.
Obviously it's not gone or a dead issue considering it's still doesn't, nor ever will, sit well with a majority of American males and females.
This whole, 'this is what everyone wants' assumption is BS.
It's fair to say that females are really 'dying to be like men', or at the very least sacrificing their lives to be 'equal'.
It's that big of a deal apparently.
These volunteers aren't heroines, they're martyrs, don't get it twisted.
If we need to see ripped up and destroyed female bodies on the frontlines to motivate our men to fight/push harder out of anger and heartbreak, obviously we are doing it all wrong.
If we need to see ripped up and destroyed female bodies on the frontlines to motivate our men to fight/push harder out of anger and heartbreak, obviously we are doing it all wrong.
originally posted by: NthOther
Women do not belong in combat. Healthy, strong women are required to replenish a nation's population after a devastating war.
Hence, f# Baby Boomers.
Well, if your women die in combat too... you've pretty much lost the war at that point.
Who do the boys go back to? The girls are all dead too.
originally posted by: EternalSolace
The instincts to protect a female is and forever will be wired into the male genome.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: EternalSolace
The instincts to protect a female is and forever will be wired into the male genome.
That is complete and utter BS. People who think that, or worse... do it are weak enough mentally that they should never be put into those roles. If you see gender rather than people, you do not have what it takes to be in combat, or in my opinion even be a functional member of society because it means you inherently treat people differently based on sex.
originally posted by: EternalSolace
Regardless of the training, the drilling, the muscle memory, etc... this simple clip represents the simple basic instinct of a male to protect a female regardless of everything else...
I guess youtube linking is broken...
Here's the link...
Dashcam & Bodycam Footage of Police Shootout With Gang Member
Did you all notice how the officer holstered his firearm without ensuring that the criminal was completely out of the fight?
The female officer had to tell him multiple times to secure the shooter before attending to her.
I don't blame either officer, it's a life or death situation and instincts take over.
The instincts to protect a female is and forever will be wired into the male genome.
This is a potential disruption in roles whose sole purpose is combat and not of support.