Anti-Trump dossier author was hired to help Hillary challenge 2016 election results

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

So you dont understand our system?
It's cool.

Sure do.

270 voters can steal an en election from 360 million people. No matter how you want so much to believe otherwise, that is the truth of your system.

Political parties can concentrate their efforts into winning only those very few votes that count and all the rest can be safely ignored - because they don't actually count.

That is why all your news media talk about the importance of "swing states", every time there is an election.

a reply to: chr0naut

270 voters 

I am in awe of your astounding ignorance.
Do continue on.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

270 voters 

I am in awe of your astounding ignorance.
Do continue on.

The Electoral College consists of 538 electors (not the sum of the numbers of states). These are not corporate entities, they are individual people whose votes stand in proxy for the citizenry of the US. 270 represents a majority.

a reply to: chr0naut

And what are the state laws for such genius

Nice fail tho

Like I posted its complicated and we understand you dont get it
Keep parroting the talking points tho
Let's us know exactly where you stand

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

And what are the state laws for such genius

Nice fail tho

Like I posted its complicated and we understand you dont get it
Keep parroting the talking points tho
Let's us know exactly where you stand

No matter how hard you shuffle a deck of cards, it still remains the same deck.

In a state with a large number of electoral votes. The party who gains the largest number of votes, even if the margin of winning is tiny, gains the entire ticket of electoral college electors for that state. This step marginalizes and invalidates the votes of people who may have been in the majority if their votes had been counted along with other states where their particular choice represents a majority. By discarding 49.999 % of the votes, you introduce an imbalance.

Then the electoral college voters also, although selected by the winning party of the state, are not forced to vote for their supposed parties but can be 'faithless electors'.

What might induce them to vote differently from their pledged party? There could be a number of reasons but you cannot rule out simple greed. Since you only need 270 votes to win the Presidency, You could simply pay off electoral college electors to either abstain or invalidate their vote (say by voting for Sanders instead of Clinton, as happened in 2016. In the 2016 election there were 7 faithless electors and a further electors 3 had their votes invalidated, so it isn't unusual and there must be inducement to do it, despite penalties). Financial inducement would only cost a few million dollars (because you only have to target a few) and as long as you could keep it on the down-low, it could change the election. It is interesting to note that in the 2016 election, the 10 votes that went against their party pledges were all Democratic party voters, which may implicate the Republican party (who won the electoral college election despite loosing the popular vote) in wrongdoing (wake up and smell the covfefe).

These are just two different ways that the Electoral College system distorts 'the mandate of the people' and is open to manipulation, some of which is done quite overtly.

a reply to: Aallanon

11.4.2021 Breaking

The DOSSIER was meant to "challenge" Donald Trump's win, by ruining him as President. Hillary had lots of high-level help, but Special Counsel John Durham is starting with the field-criminals and working his way up. From today, for example..

The FBI has arrested IGOR DANCHENKO...contributor to the Trump-Russia entrapment, ordered by Hillary Clinton.

Source: talkingpointsmemo.com...

Getting CLOSER to Hillary, and her assistant in the entrapment, Joe Biden!

a reply to: carewemust

Now maybe soon we find out WHO was actually in the room with the "peeing hookers" !!!😎

a reply to: xuenchen

Ole Billy Boy for sure. But he certainly had a lot of help with this
massive criminal conspiracy. It is absolutely quite sophisticated
in nature, on a level that we rarely get a glimpse of. On the level
of See I A. A lot of things tie back to them, if one is looking closely.

So in reality, Russia was emboldened to interfere by way of the Clinton Campaign !!!!!🤣

A "Nothing Burger" the MSM hyped for years, proven fake news.
But the people at ATS already knew this, except for few people with TDS.

What else do they lie to us about ?

a reply to: chr0naut
We have this thing called the constitution that's kinda still followed and tge electoral college is part of it. If I remember correctly you're from New Zealand. Are things really that wonderful there with your leftist tyrant in charge that all you can do is talk about how terrible everything is in the US?

originally posted by: DeadlyStaringFrog
a reply to: chr0naut
We have this thing called the constitution that's kinda still followed and tge electoral college is part of it. If I remember correctly you're from New Zealand. Are things really that wonderful there with your leftist tyrant in charge that all you can do is talk about how terrible everything is in the US?

Lots of countries have Constitutions.

And there are issues with many Constitutions, and they are open to interpretation, and misinterpretation, too. You can't simply use a Constitution to justify itself.

Nor is the current government in New Zealand tyrannical, either (or particularly leftist).

In the previous government term, our Prime Minister (Ardern) was of the left leaning Labour party and the Deputy Prime Minister (like your Vice President) was of the strongly right wing and nationalist NZ First party. And guess what - they worked together harmoniously, because they were not a 'publicity chasing' game show host, they actually were public servants.

It works like this because despite the polarization of extremes in the USA, other countries are majority centrist, rather than extremist and radical.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
A "Nothing Burger" the MSM hyped for years, proven fake news.
But the people at ATS already knew this, except for few people with TDS.

What else do they lie to us about ?

What was once "speculation", based on bits of evidence here and there, has now, via testimonies to Durham, been determined to be correct. A summary...

Danchenko was not some mysterious Russian agent operating in the bowels of the Kremlin. He is a Ukrainian-born resident of the United States who worked as a senior research analyst for the Washington, D.C. liberal think tank, Brookings Institution. When the dossier was concocted in 2016, the president of Brookings was Strobe Talbott, a longtime friend and ally of Hillary Clinton. This was hardly a coincidence.

It was Clinton and her confederates who invented the Russia hoax to frame her opponent with the most noxious offense in America: a treasonous conspiracy with the Kremlin to steal a presidential election. The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) financed their illicit scheme by secretly funneling money to Steele, who hired Danchenko as his primary source for the dossier.

More at: www.foxnews.com...

This "witch hunt" really has a witch at the top of the chain. Special Counsel-Prosecutor John Durham is moving in her direction.