Do We Really Care If Humans Become Extinct?

Personally, no. And I have at least 2 offspring here. Hmm...
Then again...

While I think our kind is atrocious, in all colors; pretentiously dumb at best, murderous at worst, and way too attached to our limbic systems rather than embracing common sense...

That said, (yah, don't i feel special using such an old, worn-out phrase?) I hope that there IS a point to all this, otherwise we all might as well be a 3-year old's finger-painting (God being the 3-year old) who are about to get sh*t and pi**ed on as a final act. [God can do that and get away with it.] We're silly-putty.... and mainly the result of some 'divine' periodic table... My point? I 'feel' that God is both Chaos and Order. That's how you rule everything see? =) Or, that's the name some of us give it, at least.

And with THAT said, if you're too old to appreciate youthfulness, then ya milk has expired brah..
Otherwise, to the the still able-minded and/or bodied, GET OFF UR ASSES. You still have goals and dreams! DO THEM! In the next 18 months, preferably. That's all. =)

If you think life is hard, consider the alternatives.

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

Nice bright and sunny outlook there 🤔

originally posted by: DeReK DaRkLy
Personally, no. And I have at least 2 offspring here. Hmm...

hahahaha
nice way to put it.
just dumping clips all over the place



and no i dont care
would be awesome sure since i am one but really i have at least 2 offspring out there too and my youngest is 6 so another 1oo years just to be safe and im good.

Time to eat some home-made Chinese dumplings with some pig pork that was feed with its own feces . You know, the gyoza made in China and exported to the USA. Good stuff. Too bad the US food inspectors are not doing test on it what is actually in that crap.

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

Yeah man. I care. Mother earth is worth defending. We are part of it.

Fudge that. And I feel great. After all the social engineering, programming, and all around efforts to get me down, the man has failed.

He can't get me down. Screw The Man.

We're the only species that hates ourselves. That attitude is particularly apparent on ATS where people tend to have the attitude that if they were in charge things would be different, but everyone else is really stupid. If you think the species is hopeless, you have the ability to take yourself out any time you want. But I don't think anyone has the right to make that decision for the rest of us. You can go on your merry way and leave the rest of us to struggle on as best we can.

Nope don't care but since We aren't going extinct anytime soon and I'm (about) halfway thru My life I thought I'd start a Spirit (Rum) Business to make more people "Happy" (or dependent).

As for God being both Chaos and Order:
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

We need to form two groups of people. The people who care if humans become extinct and the people who don't care if humans become extinct.


Maybe even put it in the debate forums.

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

You need to find better friends.

originally posted by: schuyler
We're the only species that hates ourselves. That attitude is particularly apparent on ATS where people tend to have the attitude that if they were in charge things would be different, but everyone else is really stupid. If you think the species is hopeless, you have the ability to take yourself out any time you want. But I don't think anyone has the right to make that decision for the rest of us. You can go on your merry way and leave the rest of us to struggle on as best we can.

I think the grouper and sharks hate themselves .

as i shall be dead - i shall no longer care

its not like any human that out lives me - is going to do anything that benefits me

so .....

It will be pretty lonely here if the rest of humans go extinct. We have specialists designing food to make it happen in this country, slow but sure it will knock down the populations utilizing many different genetic intollerances to accomplish this feat. It is not considered genocide if they target all people evenly.

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy


Why 18 months?

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

That's not the issue and never was. Humans are cockroaches we survive everything. The problem is all the innocent animals and plants we wipe out and modify to suit our needs.
We are gods on steroids.

It's already in the works, my species likes this planet.

Thank you for your concession.

Without humans what would we do for fun?

Without humans, how could one feel smugly superior?

Who would hear trees falling in the forest or one hand clapping?

Besides, gods need humans to exist, and maybe even visa versa.

a reply to: Baddogma

What would you do for fun if there were no humans? Lol.
You wouldn't have to worry about what you are going to do..... ever again.

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy


Some of us do, some of us don't.

You do not care much either way, but I do, and pretty much everyone I choose to associate with does on some level. Its not as if we are blind to the degeneracy of some of our fellow human beings, but we do not think that extinction is something we ought to embrace, because the human being is a complicated and multifaceted thing, such that just as there are deeply evil people in the world, there are also deeply decent ones, compassionate ones, folk whose ability to spread and experience joy are undiminished despite circumstances being far less than ideal, even in circumstances which are harrowing.

But it really does not matter how much I care, or how much the people I know care about these things, unless those in power are willing to prepare the human race for moving outward and forward, not regressing back to the ignorance and amorality of the past.
Unless the power in the world is directed at promoting our survival as a species, beyond the next hundred, thousand or million years, what I think of it, what you think of it, what anyone thinks or cares about, has no meaning or importance at all, because unless that power is directed toward maintaining and advancing the position of humanity, protecting it from the threat posed by its own endeavours, from the eventual expansion of the sun and destruction of the planet we were birthed from, spreading the species among the stars like sycamore seeds on the wind, then the species will die regardless.

The view that holds that a person ought not care, or ought to feel good about not caring much what happens to the species once they and their offspring have already passed from this existence, is one I find deeply troubling, and is toxic to the human species, a threat to it as great as any other we face.

a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

The obvious answer is if we become extinct, no. No one would care because no one would be left to care.

Yes and No, humanity may have become extinct before if you go outside of the traditional science and look at ooparts etc then add to that the biblical account of man being (re)created in THERE image and there spirit then being put into the new corporeal man (breath of life = spirit - a pilot consciousness for the otherwise soulless body).

Of course to avoid religion and to take the view we are unique and have never been before and may perhaps never be again as a species, humanity has a rare chance, perhaps despite it's size and even if life does exist elsewhere intelligent life may be a rarity or even non existent (if we ignore perhaps millions of UFO experiences) then if that is the case humanity is a seed that SHOULD grow into a forest and garden the dead world's of the universe turning them into Oasis among the stars but if humanity becomes extinct, fall's to population culling lunatic's or stagnates under a controlling artificial or organic intelligence becoming nothing but earth bound slaves then this dream also dies (and in a very genuine sense the earth itself dies along with it since it too is then doomed to eventual death when in fact it could have spread out along with it's children making ever planet they settled into itself through them).

A seed dies that the tree may be born, if the earth dies but humanity survives only to then go and recreate a billion or more earth's throughout the universe then the earth never died because it survived in it's pollen that pollen being the star born human race whom may some day come to be but not if we let the idiot's run the show.

So humanity's survival and continued growth as a race toward becoming a star born species is actually essential for the sake of the planet itself, if the earth fail's with humanity it may not get another chance to spread it's life among the stars and so will be essentially a sterile organism, the last of it's kind destined to die alone with no offspring even if it survives humanity's demise another billion years or so until the earth is too hot for life to continue (maybe only another 500 million according to some projections but of course understanding the fluctuations of our star is still in it's infancy so?).
BUT if humanity survived, becomes a star born civilization it will garden those new world's, seed new world's and create new earth's in the image of it's mother planet - BUT - ONLY - IF - IT - SURVIVES.