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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Mr. Trump was stoking that fire. He filled his rallies and the airwaves with it and the media presented him with his microphone to scream it at the whole nation.
The media reported on it , pro or con, until Trump stopped then guess what? So did they. And guess what. So did most everyone else.
originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: BoneSay
The caravan people said they'll stay in Mexico waiting for better conditions to cross the border. Sorry for Mexico.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Mr. Trump was stoking that fire. He filled his rallies and the airwaves with it and the media presented him with his microphone to scream it at the whole nation.
The media reported on it , pro or con, until Trump stopped then guess what? So did they. And guess what. So did most everyone else.
originally posted by: BoneSay
originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: BoneSay
The caravan people said they'll stay in Mexico waiting for better conditions to cross the border. Sorry for Mexico.
Nope, they are moving forward, some may have decided to stay, most are not. They requested buses, up to 500 from the UN, request was denied, i said that on the OP. I live in Mexico right now, i can tell you that this is not true
They refuse things like free health care, jobs, food, homes and other stuff and rejected any form of help other than helping them reach the US
originally posted by: Trueman
originally posted by: BoneSay
originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: BoneSay
The caravan people said they'll stay in Mexico waiting for better conditions to cross the border. Sorry for Mexico.
Nope, they are moving forward, some may have decided to stay, most are not. They requested buses, up to 500 from the UN, request was denied, i said that on the OP. I live in Mexico right now, i can tell you that this is not true
They refuse things like free health care, jobs, food, homes and other stuff and rejected any form of help other than helping them reach the US
According to the Mexican people I know, most of them decided to stay in Mexico. I asked them yesterday. My source is not the media, it's real Mexicans that think their government was roo soft with the caravan.
originally posted by: lakenheath24
Bye. Don't let the fence hit you in the ass on the way out.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Mr. Trump was stoking that fire. He filled his rallies and the airwaves with it and the media presented him with his microphone to scream it at the whole nation.
The media reported on it , pro or con, until Trump stopped then guess what? So did they. And guess what. So did most everyone else.
So Trump saying "We want secure borders." Roused these thousands of people en-mass to start moving north?
Riiiight...
The reason people don't want to talk about it anymore is because the critical thinking one's can see that wasn't a natural event.
Now we got a good portion of these people missing and presumed in bad situations.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: JAY1980
So Trump saying "We want secure borders." Roused these thousands of people en-mass to start moving north?
Riiiight...
You are making things up. Who siad that Trump caused those people to move north? Who? You sound as if you think I was saying that. Read it again and point out to me where I suggested that. You then ridicule a fantasy interpretation of what I said with your riiiiiight. Again, point out to me where I have ever suggested that, or for that matter anyone who has.
The reason people don't want to talk about it anymore is because the critical thinking one's can see that wasn't a natural event.
So what you suggest here is those who have critical thinking abilities, namely you and those who you agree with, can see that it was not a natural event and so ,,,,, no longer talk about it? Does that make any sense at all? Well I have critical thinking skills and am willing to talk about it.
Do I know that this was a natural movement of people running away from oppression? No I do not because what proof do I have. Do I know that it was orchestrated by liberals? No I don not because I have no proof. Do I know that it was orchestrated by conservatives? No I do not because I have no proof. Do you? Really?
Certainly it could have been any of those causes. The liberals might have do it to make Trump look bad. But conservatives might have caused it to scare the # out of conservative voters. I don't know either way, do you?
And yes it might have been organic, though, I suspect on the part of the individual marchers yes, but those who were helping them along the way is still open for debate.
The op said as much...
Now we got a good portion of these people missing and presumed in bad situations.
Yes, this is a sad thing. But why are they missing. Because the whole idea was not smart in the first place? Because those who were guiding them have abandoned them to their own devices? Maybe so.
Yes there were storms along the way. Yes there were cartels along the way. Yes there were all kinds of dangerous situationa along the way.
And all those things, those dangers, were pointed out by those who did not see this as an invading army, those who suggested that this march was not the threat it was being made out to be. There were plenty of people who said this was no threat for the reasons mentioned above, all of the dangers along the way.
Was it Trumps fault that those people are in peril? Certainly not, yet for some reason you are under the impression that I believe this.
But read my post again and you will see that OP asked why it is not at the top of the news cycle any longer and you will see my simple understanding....Trump stoked the fear of that threat at his rallies. The media reports on what Trump is saying and opines in either direction. Once Trump stops talking about it, so does the media,pro and con, and then everyone stops talking about it. Simple
And yes, where are all those people? I don't know. Maybe some of them have found safe harbor from friendly Mexicans. I certainly hope so.
originally posted by: lakenheath24
I find it extremely shallow and irritating that your myopic pinhole view of the world is thrust upon the US only.
What are your views on Mexicos 16000 murders this year? What about the Congo and Yemen falling into famine? Venezuela? The North African immigration crisis? BREXIT? I am glad you left as America doesnt need people like you in it.
a reply to: BoneSay
originally posted by: lakenheath24
I find it extremely shallow and irritating that your myopic pinhole view of the world is thrust upon the US only.
What are your views on Mexicos 16000 murders this year? What about the Congo and Yemen falling into famine? Venezuela? The North African immigration crisis? BREXIT? I am glad you left as America doesnt need people like you in it.
a reply to: BoneSay
And it's a damn good thing you have no political power or influence, too. Most people with mental health "issues" will never unlawfully use a firearm against another person if they own one. That's a fact. Statistically, they are probably less likely to. Most of the firearm violence in the US and elsewhere happens between criminals and government, neither of which are statistically likely to be mentally ill, unless you consider criminality at mental illness. According to the courts it isn't.
originally posted by: djz3ro
I'm leaning towards the solution lying in changing legislation around those with mental health issues .