China and Russia Have Set a Nuclear Collision Course With the United States

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Reading this article demonstrates the world is still utterly mad.

For the light-hearted, please don’t read.

Backed up by growing nuclear arsenals, China and Russia are waging little ‘asymmetric’ wars to expand their territory and influence. Can the U.S. stop them? They think not.

China, the New York Times reported last week, “can now challenge American military supremacy in the places that matter most to it: the waters around Taiwan and in the disputed South China Sea.” Therefore, Beijing can, in the words of the paper, “make intervention in the region too costly for Washington to contemplate.”
Too costly to contemplate? Unfortunately, assessments like these, often heard in U.S. policy circles, can embolden the already arrogant Chinese and make their adventurism—and war—more likely.
Moreover, any conflict between China and the United States in the Pacific could quickly escalate to nuclear war.

What happened to peace on earth and goodwill to all men?

I guess we never really had it.

What happened to the lessons of WWI AND WWII?

China is apparently willing to escalate all the way. But the New York Times, in its reporting last month, did not mention one Chinese threat to American forces in the region: nuclear attack.
“For regional warfare, especially in Asia, the People’s Liberation Army is equipped for nuclear operations both offensive and defensive,” Richard Fisher of the International Assessment and Strategy Center told The Daily Beast. “If China can conjure a ‘defensive’ political moral high ground to justify offensive military campaigns to retrieve ‘lost’ territory, we should be prepared for China’s very early use of nuclear weapons to support its theater campaign. We can, for example, expect China to ‘demonstrate’ nuclear weapons at sea to deter American or Japanese military support for Taiwan in the event of a Chinese attack, or even outright Chinese use of nuclear weapons against Japanese bases supporting U.S. forces coming to the defense of Taiwan.”
And American planners have to be concerned that China’s military partner, Russia, would join a conflict on Beijing’s side. In September 2016 the two militaries, in an eight-day naval drill, practiced “joint island seizing missions” in the South China Sea. Moscow might even take advantage of turmoil in Asia to try to further expand its territory in Europe, perhaps using “little green men” as it did in Crimea in 2014 and later in Eastern Ukraine.

So China and Russia are allied against the US, nothing new there, but one wonders why these powers don’t get together and try to end these potential nuclear conflicts.

Indeed it seems the world is going backward, not forward.

Read this below

Or maybe its nukes. Russian leader Vladimir Putin has long threatened the offensive use of such weapons. As Stephen Blank, a scholar at the American Foreign Policy Council, told me, “Russia evidently views nuclear weapons as a legitimate war-fighting weapon as its deployments, 22 procurement programs, exercises, and doctrine suggest.” He notes that Moscow is constructing a nuclear weapons storage facility in Crimea and deploying nuclear-capable Kalibr cruise missiles to the Mediterranean.

China has an announced “no-first-use” policy, but for decades hostile public statements from Chinese generals and diplomats have cast doubt on whether Beijing would in fact adhere to that promise in a wartime setting.
For instance, in August 2011 Xu Guangyu, a retired Chinese general working at the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association, blurted out to Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post a comment indicating Beijing had developed plans to launch “a surprise attack on the U.S.”

So it seems the world is getting closer and closer to a nuclear war possibility. One would think clear heads and moral leaders would prevail and seek to slow down this constant drumbeat of war and conflict but apparently, the lessons of the past aren’t being heeded.

You'd think any leader faced with the real potential for mutually assured destruction would pull back from the brink before things go too far. But who knows?

Winter is coming...

Dang , more WW 3 Doom Porn
Been a while

And just looked , NORAD's DEFCON is still at "Fade Out"
Let me know when it goes to "Cocked Pistol"
NVM , you will not have time to let me know

a reply to: Willtell

Good.

Mankind need a reset.

ETA: ya know, for the sake of the planet earth and stuff

The largest disinformation and misinformation campaign launched to date combined with dangerous propaganda loaded with limousine liberal rhetoric.

Opposition of the current administration is only a hair above the support with each and every media outlet chiming in with their multitudes of so called experts every hour of every day.


What happened is painfully obvious.

First we had.
1.1999 Y2K fear/doom mongering porn.
2.2012 end of the world doom porn.

now this.

Actual people don’t have a problem with each other it is just our immature Government entities. I have had nothing, but positive interaction with Chinese and Russian human beings I have met in RL and online.

If our leaders weren’t such immature wankers this wouldn’t even be an issue.

china and russia both can not project power out side of their regions of power (w syria being a small exception) russia does not want a nuclear war and china sure as hell does not all though at least they would have the numbers to absorb losses better then russia. any launch by china would get nato and india irked as the latter is in the region.

the whole of china's strategy is coastal denial and protected what they have now and the south china see as well as making sure tiawan stays controlled and russias is about attempting to reform the old Soviet unions historical territory

what is much more likely as this slightly hyperbolic link states is that china and russia will eventually go to war over dwindling resources in the siberia region taskandpurpose.com... while i dont exactly agree with the premise of the article (dont see south koreans siding with china for example) i post it to highlight why a sino russian war is more likely then them declaring any kind of war on us as even with chinese naval gains lately they still lack the ability to protect power and move large amounts of troops outside their sphere of influence

originally posted by: ChefFox
First we had.
1.1999 Y2K fear/doom mongering porn.
2.2012 end of the world doom porn.

now this.

Don't forget 1986 Haley's comet doom porn....

a reply to: Willtell

So- we let corporations trade/ manufacture with this bunch WHY again????

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE

a reply to: AriAsulin

Interesting.

Would you mind elaborate on this?

a reply to: Willtell

Again? LoL

How many nations have repeatedly used nuclear weapons in anger?

a reply to: JinMI

Yes you are exactly right

The establishment on both sides, the neo cons and neo libs that run most of the democrats and republicans want a war with Russia

Their deep state buddies in the intel community constantly push toward these wars

And all the while, the very people that were against the Iraq war with me are begging these same people to break any law necessary to remove trump

The party of peace clamoring for the war to end all wars

Would be funny if it wouldn’t lead to a good chance of us all dying

originally posted by: Gothmog
Dang , more WW 3 Doom Porn
Been a while

And just looked , NORAD's DEFCON is still at "Fade Out"
Let me know when it goes to "Cocked Pistol"
NVM , you will not have time to let me know

Well and at any rate, having served myself, I say we need to pull our people back anyway, and unless we are directly engaged or its imminent, stay out of other affairs.

Weve had too many of our men and women come home draped in the flag, fighting in areas and for things that people just dont care about anymore, and isnt in the best interest of the country.

Not so much isolationism, but measured force if you will.

originally posted by: AriAsulin

Nuclear bombs ARE (snip...)

What the hell are you talking about?

10 bucks nothing happens.

We have been making China stronger since Nixion’s first visit.

a reply to: Grambler

"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."