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originally posted by: toysforadults
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I do appreciate the message there.. but, personally, I dislike the idea of letting the concept of "liberalism" be corrupted and co-opted like so many other facets of language.
So, instead of saying I am no longer Liberal, I much prefer to call this group what they are: Statists.
I actually feel its an important distinction since most who identify as the modern left, even if only in action (they have an odd habit of perceiving themselves as centrists), are about as far from liberal as one can get.
Maybe I'm just stubborn..
I'm not a liberal, but your post makes sense. It raises a question if you and other wouldn't mind answering. That is if you feel that distinction, do you vote for Sanders, more or less a socialist, The 'Statists' Party, as you call it, Trump/Republican whether or not you see that distinction as well or none of the above? No right answer, just curious.
ahhhh ANOTHER great post!!
classical liberalism ftw
originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: toysforadults
originally posted by: Serdgiam
Iedit on 11-6-2018 by nwtrucker because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: nwtrucker
I'm a classical liberal meaning my philosophy on just about everything is most closely aligned with Thomas Jefferson
So no socialism and no Republican
constitutional republic. Thats it
Classical liberalism to me is an all in or nothing game
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Serdgiam
It's funny.
I consider myself a liberal.
originally posted by: infolurker
This is a very strong video on why people are leaving the Democratic party. I would recommend that everyone watch this short video and seriously think about what is going on. Please do not comment until after spending the 6 minutes needed to watch. It is powerful and very truthful about what is currently going on that is driving people away.
Reject Hate and just walk away.
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I do appreciate the message there.. but, personally, I dislike the idea of letting the concept of "liberalism" be corrupted and co-opted like so many other facets of language.
So, instead of saying I am no longer Liberal, I much prefer to call this group what they are: Statists.
I actually feel its an important distinction since most who identify as the modern left, even if only in action (they have an odd habit of perceiving themselves as centrists), are about as far from liberal as one can get.
Maybe I'm just stubborn..
I agree with you 100%.
I also try not to use "Liberal" when talking about Statist Progressives. I more associate liberal with libertarians personally.
originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: elementalgrove
R. Spygate
S. Benghazi
T. Fast and furious
U. Iran deal
originally posted by: MteWamp
a reply to: infolurker
Wish I could give you 100 stars and flags for this.
I fear that the left's inherent and deeply ingrained aversion to truth, ANY truth, will cause it to fall on mostly deaf ears.
But hey, I can give anyone the benefit of a doubt, at least for the 6 minutes and change that it will take to watch this video, and respond, so hey, let's see what happens.