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We protect the environment through state regulation, not by our own actions and initiatives.
but I believe he's playing with the word.
originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Firstly, the Jack Susianta case was nothing to do with Statism, and everything to do with on-the-spot decision making by the officers involved.
It appears you are using your own interpretation of events to manipulate and plant a seed in the readers mind.
One that is false.
Now...
We protect the environment through state regulation, not by our own actions and initiatives.
You think that regular powerless citizens can do anything to prevent a large & powerful corporation from cutting down to many trees, or polluting too much air, or poisoning too much water, if they so please?
Hahahahaha.
Yeah, sure thing, Les.
Or lack thereof in that case. They and the public watched as a man drowned.
Large and powerful corporations are composed of citizens. Imagine that.
originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Or lack thereof in that case. They and the public watched as a man drowned.
And...?
You are using this situation to broadbrush anyone who prefers regulation...
How many people were involved in the situation...
& how do you come to the conclusion it is an inevitable consequence of wanting regulation...
Replace those involved with another group and we could have had an entirely different ending.
Also, you used the “4 minutes” later thing, and the so called “six foot deep, with no current”...
You failed to mention that the officer who did finally enter the water to get Jack, had to be rescued himself by a rower.
Large and powerful corporations are composed of citizens. Imagine that.
That is not an adequate answer to the point I just made.
And...?
You are using this situation to broadbrush anyone who prefers regulation...
How many people were involved in the situation...
& how do you come to the conclusion it is an inevitable consequence of wanting regulation...
Replace those involved with another group and we could have had an entirely different ending.
Also, you used the “4 minutes” later thing, and the so called “six foot deep, with no current”...
You failed to mention that the officer who did finally enter the water to get Jack, had to be rescued himself by a rower.
That is not an adequate answer to the point I just made.
Advocating for massive state redistribution of wealtj, or enforced regulations, does not make a person a more moral person.
We should be judged by what we personally do, not what we want the government to force others to do.
A big BUT now: The authorities are not keeping their end of the bargain in the UK at least. For many there is not much to lose any longer and in their great numbers can and will be a great spanner in the works and a great big DRAIN on resources because tey will be obese, unhealthy at an early age and will need some kind of minimal state help to stop them from turning into rotting corpses that spread diseases. The corporations turn them into this by all the garbage they feed them physically and mentally. They are not looking after their batteries and customers properly. They are not feeding their imaginations properly and are not raising them out of the smell any longer. They are having to feed the machine with low paid, robotic never ending long hour employemnt with even no holidays now, but the machine is no longer protecting them properly with housing, health care, policing. Everything now is about auditting and protecting the MACHINE. This will of course get much worse, but the people will hate and despise it and the lives it forces them lead, but they will no longer have any knowledge of alternatives because their imaginations would never have been switched on..
I hear what you're saying but honestly, can you remember a time when things were different? I am likely younger than you so this is a serious question.
I have never really known a time when there wasn't a considerable moral vacuum in the mainstream.
originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I hear what you're saying but honestly, can you remember a time when things were different? I am likely younger than you so this is a serious question.
I have never really known a time when there wasn't a considerable moral vacuum in the mainstream.