Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

a reply to: Lucidparadox

Because law enforcement will take that risk.

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
I have another question

If he already showed aggression and fired on a security guard through the door... using the Wi-Fi cameras..

Then how on earth.. as we heard in the recording from the swat team.. did they know they would be safe to get close enough to the door to set charges?

That makes zero sense

We heard in the swat team audio they set charges and blew them thinking he was still inside and armed..

What made them think they could get anywhere near that door to set the charges?


That makes zero sense

It’s my personal belief the pictures of the doors just indicate being battery rammed I think that’s why they don’t show the middle of the left door because the impact hole. That would be even more dangerous although

a reply to: antibren

More like is it really his dead body at all? Maybe he was on that plane to Mexico days ago and will meet up with his GF in the Philippines in the weeks to come. Maybe this was his retirement and the start of a new life and identity. Will we ever really know? Nope. I still find it interesting to read the forensics when they come out and pick apart the police conferences. Where are his planes right now I wonder... Maybe I'll go browse Reddit and the Chans, see if they know

a reply to: Krakatoa

That would be really helpful in the investigation. If so we probably will not see it!

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
I have another question

If he already showed aggression and fired on a security guard through the door... using the Wi-Fi cameras..

Then how on earth.. as we heard in the recording from the swat team.. did they know they would be safe to get close enough to the door to set charges?

That makes zero sense

We heard in the swat team audio they set charges and blew them thinking he was still inside and armed..

What made them think they could get anywhere near that door to set the charges?


That makes zero sense

It makes sense. It's a reason cops don't get enough respect. For all their problems, when something goes down it's them stepping up to put their lives on the line.

So why'd they put charges on the door not knowing whether it's safe or not? They had to or the shooter(s) were going to rip off more rounds into the crowds.

Or so they thought, anyway.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: yuppa

Can you tell me with 100 prevent certainty that he was spotted with a "mystery woman" earlier in the day? No you can't.

yeah i can. a poster a page pack or two posted that info. one of their friends took a selfie and it had him and a woman together in it.

a reply to: MysticPearl

CRAZY ASS now Drudge says he spent 20 years planning and did not act alone.

a reply to: antibren
Yes, I saw the note or notepad on the table in one of the photos. I was hoping someone had the imaging skills to pull up that object and see what, if anything is written there.

Perhaps the authorities could simply comment on that object and remove a lot of speculation? Surely they've got the contents of the iPad by now....did it tell them nothing? Was it bought and used for this attack? I'm sure these are the things they are even now trying to pin down.

Bless them everyone...they are dealing with an unimaginable tragedy. I can't even begin to imagine what a toll this is taking on everyone. They've lost two of their brothers and yet they have to show up for work and try to figure out how and why those lives were lost---under the biggest microscope in the universe. Bless everyone of them.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: yuppa

Can you tell me with 100 prevent certainty that he was spotted with a "mystery woman" earlier in the day? No you can't.

yeah i can. a poster a page pack or two posted that info. one of their friends took a selfie and it had him and a woman together in it.

I missed this

a reply to: diggindirt

If they have an iPad, then it is possible they could track his movements in the hours and days before this event too.

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
www.nbcnews.com...

Officers found the suspect down on the ground, Lombardo said. They then breached the door to the second room in the suite, but no one was there, he said.

This is getting very interesting!

The Sheriff and FBI are claiming they couldn't access the other room, and they had to breach the second room, which was empty. Which room they are talking about is very important! (see my previous posts)

It is very normal for connecting hotel rooms to be lockable on both sides so you can't sneak into your neighbors room. I am assuming they are talking about room 32-134 (which had the other broken window), and they couldn't unlock it because it was locked on the other side. So they breached it. If this door was locked, that means someone locked it from the inside, and then escaped through the front door (the door next to the food cart with the camera).

It also means Stephen Paddock couldn't easily switch between the two broken windows, because the door to room 32-134 was locked. This means there is a possibility of another shooter that was in the room and has escaped.

The other explanation is that somehow Stephen locked the door from the inside of room 32-134, walked out the front door of room 32-134 (past the food cart with security camera) and back into the front door of 32-135 with the bullet holes in it, and then "suicided". Which sounds unlikely.

I doubt they are talking about the actual bedroom inside suite 32-135 because that door doesn't have locking door knobs, it only has a dead bolt lock that can only be locked from the inside! There is no way for you to lock the door from the outside, nor lock it and shut it closed. It's a deadbolt, if that at all.

See here:

Source: www.youtube.com...

To be clear...

a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

Excellent work!
Would like to step back for a second. Is it official (supposedly) that 32134, the room next door, the seperate designated numbered room (with locked ajoining fire door) also with a broken window, service cart with camera and wires fed under door from hallway, is also Brian Hodges' (the Ausies') room?
Am I missing something? Didnt the Aussie say they got off to a late start, so they decided to just do dinner?
Either way, 'Padock' set up a video system and commandeered Hodges room?
32134 has busted out windows unless the floor plan is different.

Has anyone reported on this yes?

www.reviewjournal.com...

Maybe that's why the shots sound different at the start, he was aiming for the tanks with the first volley, and said screw it and targeted the crowd?

originally posted by: tiredoflooking
a reply to: Xcathdra

Definitely time of death will be a good place to start. Also gsr on his hands.

Unfortunately, it would have to be a rare event that time of death could be determined within a 30 minute window.

He was wearing gloves so depending on the glove material, gun shot residue may well have penetrated that material and be found on his hands. If those are "shooting gloves" I suspect that his hands will be well covered with gsr---if he fired all those rounds....???? I don't know---it just gets more interesting with each day.

originally posted by: TruD4rkness
Has anyone reported on this yes?

www.reviewjournal.com...

Maybe that's why the shots sound different at the start, he was aiming for the tanks with the first volley, and said screw it and targeted the crowd?

Now that I actually see the tanks in question would it even be possible to penetrate those from that distance?

originally posted by: diggindirt

originally posted by: tiredoflooking
a reply to: Xcathdra

Definitely time of death will be a good place to start. Also gsr on his hands.

Unfortunately, it would have to be a rare event that time of death could be determined within a 30 minute window.

He was wearing gloves so depending on the glove material, gun shot residue may well have penetrated that material and be found on his hands. If those are "shooting gloves" I suspect that his hands will be well covered with gsr---if he fired all those rounds....???? I don't know---it just gets more interesting with each day.

With all that rounds he should be covered in gun powder... I doubt we ever see that data

a reply to: Lucidparadox

Well it would make sense if they staged in the stairwell three feet away from the door. That's not the sheriffs description though. He says they staged and didn't hear any shots ...the shooting had stopped...they didn't hear the suicide shot so they do not know when exactly that happened.

So they wandered out directly in front of the shooters door and encountered leg bleeding leo and proceeded to clear all the hotel rooms...this took an hour...then they breached the door...that they earlier had mentioned was ajar when leo was shot in leg.

Oh and the door from the stairwell was not welded as some rumors said but was blocked. There were 2 booms heard downstairs followed by more gun shots...

My guess is... sounds like they breached the stairwell door ... Pushed into the room through the already open door found a dead body.( I wonder who identified the body...especially if shot in the head?) Then breached the adjoining room door...hmm nothing in there! Came back out of the room were surprised by leos skulking around shot at them getting one in the leg maybe killing another. Said oops sorry we think someone shot that guy in the head who is in the room and proceeded to clear rooms looking for other ppl with guns.

By this time the person or persons were long gone certainly not hiding in a hotel room on that floor. So they said ...crap. Reported the shooter had killed himself and continued to look just hoping there would be no more shooting. Unless it was a set up by all agencies they wouldn't have a clue who they were even looking for.

If it was a set up they had everyone on lock down plenty easy for a nobody or some nobodies to blend in and disappear

originally posted by: TruD4rkness
Has anyone reported on this yes?

www.reviewjournal.com...

Maybe that's why the shots sound different at the start, he was aiming for the tanks with the first volley, and said screw it and targeted the crowd?

Sick.

I haven't seen this picture of the windows posted yet. After Trumps visit todayHere

umm yeah...when they backed off after being shot at the second person most likely left while they were distracted. and not by teleportation or spider man climbing or cloaking device.

They left by the stairs and prolly exited out onto another floor instead of the stair exit below. Leaving the guns behind and they prolly used gloves to leave no prints. Northrop grumman is deving a personal ECM device to disrupt sensors and cameras,and with this guys past work for them h emight a had someone with such a device assist in this just incase there were cameras in the stariwells. WHich apparently there are none in the stariwells. they are just on th edoors entering them.

Whats funny is the 280 shots fired when even with a extended clip in thos emodded ars took a reload or momentary pause to switch guns. The AR's coudnt fire for as long as they did if he was totally alone. i posted up the ROF earlier in th ethread for a full auto rifle. in 30 seconds he alone coudnt had fired 280 shots without stopping for a second or two.
Which means he had help for at least one or two clips.