Australia considering freeze on ANZUS alliance

a reply to: markosity1973

So in other words, 'I'm mad because you won't let us screw you anymore'?

Rich.

a reply to: hutch622

I was talking about clapped out VTs and VZs. Not the new ones. They are bought by respectable middle class folk.

a reply to: markosity1973

At a hundred and seventy thousand i doubt many respectable middle class people are looking at this car .
On topic , Turnbull will take any slap in the face Trump gives . There are only basically 5 English speaking nations in the world and sooner or later Trump will come to realise that . Hopefully .

a reply to: markosity1973

There's an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Melbourne is Australia's second biggest city and about as 'un' bush as you can get...

Yep said that one wrong, moved FROM Melbourne to the bush is what I meant.

He laughed at me too just now and said "mate, Melbourne aint the bush, your #ed in the head, that's where we moved from"

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: markosity1973

So in other words, 'I'm mad because you won't let us screw you anymore'?

Rich.

your ignorance is outstanding.

It was a deal. We were taking refugees in return. From Central America. It was NOT a one sided deal. And the refugees are people who arrived at our borders by boat and from multiple countries including Sri Lanka, Iraq, Pakistan. They are not all Syrians.

Australia and the US have essentially agreed to swap refugees In September 2016, Australia announced it would accept refugees from the camps in Costa Rica, without specifying a number or estimate. In November, less than a week after the election, the Obama administration said the US would take in refugees from the Australian-managed facilities in the Pacific.

www.cnbc.com...

But you just keep pushing the Australia was screwing the USA over by just dumping refugees on it's doorstep narrative.

a reply to: markosity1973

On another thread two secret service managers have been fired and escorted off the grounds,this is starting to look like celebrity apprentice with nuclear weapons,look I would be speaking Japanese if it weren't for the USA but we've honoured that debt for 70 years now I think its time to be selective now the USA of 2017 is not the one of 1945

a reply to: markosity1973

I say: No deal. Cry me a river.

a reply to: markosity1973

Fair suck of the sauce bottle Marko.......We never even heard the term "Bogan" until the last part of the 20th century......To us it was an exclusive "Western Suburbs of Sydney term" that noone else in Oz used.
Now if ya mentioned Drongo, boofhead, others I cant think of now....then ya talkin.

And this crap about Holden Commodore........People like Me, bought Holdens, Falcons, and Valiants because They Were Made In Australia, for Australians by Australians, that makes us loyal patriots, not some mystical "Bogan".

Actually, I just bought a new FGX XR8.......not because of any boganism, I dont do burnouts, nor been to Bafurst.
But its the Last of an Ozzy built cars, made in Australia by Australians....its the last of the V8 interceptors Max.....

Anyway Anzus was set up when we had about 7 million people, the Commies were a comin, with the Yellow hoards, and the Yanks were gonna save us.
I'd like to think we have grown up a little (tho John Howard done his best not too), and stand on our own.
BTW the yellow hoards have invaded us, but they brought money this time......

Anyway, these refugees from Central America....So we are talking about Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraska etc?
They should be nice people and fit right in.........

a reply to: khnum

As i said above there are basically 5 English speaking nations in the world . At this point in time i think we should be sticking together .

a reply to: Vector99

Lolz. I am up bush too, Literally. Right on the doorstep of Australias largest pine forests.

But Melbz is just another suburbia with overpriced real estate.

a reply to: loam

I guess this response answers my question...

It's a refugee trade deal, if you've been led to believe otherwise, best recheck the validity of your sources.

a reply to: markosity1973

Is it just me or does it really seem like we are outsourcing refugees. US and AU both.

We send you South American refugees, you send us Eurasian refugees.

Bloody shipping is making a fortune, and I think we know who is the grandmaster behind that...Sublimecraft.

a reply to: gort51

Well if that is the case, then NZ owns the word bogan.

We were using it in the 1990's for west Aucklanders who had a penchant for VL Commodores, mullets, Lion Red beer and AC / DC playing through their stolen from the lounge room stereo speakers in the back where the seat used to be.

Falcons were always very respectable over there. Driven by farmers, sales reps and stock agents.

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: khnum

As i said above there are basically 5 English speaking nations in the world . At this point in time i think we should be sticking together .

Yes but my country has been at war for US interests for 16 years now are we to shed more blood in Lebanon and Iran now,we should have DEFENSE agreements not OFFENSE coalitions they should find some other way to prop up the US dollar.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: markosity1973

Is it just me or does it really seem like we are outsourcing refugees. US and AU both.

We send you South American refugees, you send us Eurasian refugees.

Bloody shipping is making a fortune, and I think we know who is the grandmaster behind that...Sublimecraft.

It was all part of a deal to help PM Turnbull live up to his promise that those who arrive by boat will not settle in Aus. So he hit up Obama and offered an exchange for some Costa Ricans / Ecuadorians etc.

The deal should not even be a problem really, the number we would take was not specified so Trump could mandate to South Americans for one Syrian if he really wanted. It's all about the fact that he does not want to accept them because some of them are from Syria. He could even specify no Syrians as the deal was very vague anyway.

But instead he chose to toss his toys out of the cot and rant at PM Turnbull about what a bad deal it was for 25 minutes before hanging up on him.

a reply to: markosity1973

no - i am right - he is just a private citizen

a reply to: markosity1973

well that's fine, when china decides it wants a new extremely large island we'll just let them take it.
no sweat off our b__s.

a reply to: markosity1973

You're probably right, we should blame those UnZeders..Bro.....

You'll be proud, when I was a teenager of the 70s, I was playing Misex and Split Enz records, still got my Compupupupuputa ta ta Games album and True Colours album.......Great Music came out of Aotearoa in those great times.

just on a tangent - i have to question the sanity of the australians who negotiated this deal

they knew that trump was " president elect " and knew his stated policy on imigration issues - but went ahead and signed the deal anyway

one has to wonder

If a country gives us 1000+ people that they do not want (and will not allow) in their own country, are they really an ally?