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Thank you for your response. Why do you give this answer & from what source says Satan the Devil's in the hearts of humans?
originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: Transparent
Only in our hearts.
If the Devil is no longer in heaven where is Satan now?
Thanks for using the scriptures to provide your source. It is true that the Bible does say Satan after turning away Adam & Eve still had access to come & go from heaven. Can you please provide your source(s) where it says Satan is in or has access to hell & earth? Footnote: the Bible only gives the rank of one angel by name, the archangel michael. the Bible never gave what rank satan was.
originally posted by: Noncents
While I am not of an Abrahamic religion I have studied quite a bit into them.
Biblical scholars vastly believe that the cherub called Satan fell before Genesis 3, the temptation of Adam & Eve. After the fall though he was not stuck only in Hell or on Earth.
See Job 1:6-12 and Zechariah 3:1,2 for scripture showing that Satan still had access to the throne of god after being cast out.
Revelations says he will be barred from heaven during the Tribulation and confined to the abyss during the millennium. At the end of the millennium he will be cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. But until Tribulation he should still have access to heaven.
So I guess it's possible Satan is in Heaven currently.
thank you for responding. Do you know that the Hebrew word sheol, the Greek word Hades in the Latin word hell has but one true definition? The biblical interpretation of these words is the grave. anything other than biblical interpretation is null and void.
originally posted by: AttentionGrabber
a reply to: Transparent
If the Devil is no longer in heaven where is Satan now?
Hell, I don't know. I have no idea.
I ask you to carefully re-read Ezekiel the 28th chapter in full. Upon doing so you will discover that Ezekiel is prophesying the demise & fall of the currorupt king of Tyre. Verses 16 & 18 also lets us know that this is referring to the King of Tyre by speaking on his corruption of the selling of this haughty kings goods. Never does this mention Satan, but speaks of this man in the position of a heavenly-like god on high. I thank you again for using scripture to show that Satan is not in a place called hell/hades/sheol. Since you don't believe in the abrahamic religions as you call them why do you quote from the source...the Bible? Can you provide for me where you can find answers from sources other than what you call Abraham religions?
originally posted by: Noncents
a reply to: Transparent
I can probably track down some of it, sure. Ezekiel 28:13-19, towards the end mentions casting Satan to the ground to be exposed before kings. Unless there are kings in Hell, that would mean Earth. Logically but I guess logic doesn't necessarily have a place in religion.
Ezekiel 28:14 states Satan was a cherub, a guardian cherub at that.
When I said he was not stuck only in Hell or on Earth, that was meant more towards people that believe Satan is in Hell. I do not think he would be in Hell at present. First Peter 5:8 says the devil prowls around looking for people to devour. In John 14:30 Jesus calls Satan the "prince of this world".
Again, I do not believe the Abrahamic religions are correct though. Everything I'm saying is according to the biblical stories.
You are attempting to blend creation & evolution to which both religion & evolutionists totally disagree are complimentary to each other. No disrespect but what does this have to do with Satan and him being in a certain location? living side-by-side on the same planet according to the book...what book and where can you quote these sources from this book?
originally posted by: Underfire2
a reply to: Noncents
You live side by side on the same planet, according to the book. The difference between the two is so small you wouldn't know if you were standing next to an angelic being, or a human. Science has been somewhat trying to figure out the differences in DNA between one being and another. They have found a blood type, and the absence of monkey DNA in the negative blood type. That only represents about 15% of the population on the planet. Within that 15% only .02% are what they call double Delta's, meaning they carry a double negative blood trait. To make that a lil more Interesting, double Delta's seem to be protected from alot of human deseases, including aids, they have a different immune system, alien like. I'm type o-, not sure if I'm a double Delta.
Revelation 12:7-12.
originally posted by: carewemust
I hope Satan the Devil is dead, or otherwise rendered powerless by God. Would God allow his creation, who's turned evil, to roam the Earth torturing his children?