-BREAKING- FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Not to mention it still doesnt fit in with what Obama said at his press conference.

a reply to: Annee

If, by some chance, this is deemed an unfair, crooked election because of Putin. And the Electoral College chooses Hillary. I expect you too accept it and get over it.

They have to prove it.

They haven't. Accusations aren't proof and it certainly isn't a reason to upend the legitimacy of an election.

originally posted by: xuenchen
according to U.S. officials ..

and

according to U.S. officials who have seen the message

and

according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity

Here we go again.

It's going to be a long weekend I see.

Skunk Works

That is one thing that I had thought about.... and

The CIA and FBI declined to comment.

Beyond that.... why is it that there has been exactly ZERO explanation as to how they "know" those pesky Russians did it?

I don't expect to have any top secret information revealed to the public. However, I would like to see some sort of explanation as to how/why they allegedly came to that conclusion.

As much as I love going into my back yard and staring up at the sky... I'm not an astronomer or astrophysicist. When astronomers come out and say they discovered a planet that may very well be Earth-like, while obviously I don't fully understand the full write-ups.... they are able to boil it down into terms that the layman can comprehend. Something like... "We are able to gage the type of light reflecting off the planet and these colors in our visible spectrum mean that these gasses are found in the atmosphere." It's not highly technical but it gives us a general idea about their findings.

So all we can say is, without any explanation, from people that won't go on the record.... THE RUSSIANS DID IT!!!!

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: projectvxn

My bait? Whatever doom porn lets you sleep at night pushing civil war.

You're purposefully twisting my meaning.

I don't want war.

I'm warning you about war.

I don't suffer from normalcy bias. You seem to think everything is fine and this is just a political debate. It isn't.

You're warning me of war if your candidate isn't elected?

Call me not surprised. I don't even support Hillary rofl. How disconnected will Trump supporters get?

originally posted by: avgguy
You mean she didn't lose because she was a terrible candidate in the middle of an FBI investigation.

I think it is funny that this story isn't even direct from any source at all, the CIA and FBI declined to comment and it is pushing Comey back into being supported by the dems....I mean WTF?

a reply to: projectvxn

Right. It just looks like they're trying to create a climate of perpetual rioting when Trump gets in, even if they actually think they have a shot at changing the EC situation.

The Electors can still withhold their vote for Trump.

In fact, it's their jobs to prevent a propped up puppet from becoming President.

Although the Founding Fathers wanted the people to have a say, there was concern that a charismatic tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come into power. Alexander Hamilton briefly addressed these concerns in the Federalist Papers. The idea was that the electors would be a group of people who would ensure that a qualified person would become president.

originally posted by: muse7
Looks like the evidence is overwhelming that even Comey now agrees with the CIA view that the Russians intervened to help Trump win the election.

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials.

Comey’s support for the CIA’s conclusion reflects the fact that the leaders of the three agencies have always been in agreement on Russian intentions, officals said, contrary to suggestions by some lawmakers that the FBI disagreed with the CIA.

Specifically, CIA briefers told the senators it was now “quite clear” that electing Trump was one of Russia’s goals, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Washington Post

It'll be interesting to see where all this leads to, and whether or not the Electoral College will get briefed on the matter.

Will Putin's puppet be allowed to get into the White House, or will the House of Representatives choose our next president?

Will Putin's puppet be allowed to get into the White House, or will the House of Representatives choose our next president?

Putin's puppet will be allowed in the white house

a reply to: muse7

And that's why on Monday Trump will win. Hillary is both unqualified and a tyrant.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: muse7

And that's why on Monday Trump will win. Hillary is both unqualified and a tyrant.

Who says I'm saying Hillary should be elected? If Trump doesn't receive 270 votes on Monday, then the US House of Representatives would choose the president.

a reply to: Willtell

So when are we going to get actual names? Right now all we have is fake news. Tmz has better sources than your quotes.

a reply to: muse7

Just because Russia would have beef with Hillary doesn't make Trump their puppet. Any of you with half a brain are smart enough to realize this, especially now that I've clarified reality for you just now in case you hadn't considered it, but you'll all keep on twisting the language because you're trying to destroy the social fabric of this nation. It's been your platform for at least as long as Obama now. That much has been obvious, this is all the icing on that #ake cake.

This is getting insane at this point.

They're now blaming Putin for Brexit too, funnily enough Obama also tried to influence that election as well, it failed again.

Then they blamed Brexit on, you guessed it, anti British forces within the United Kingdom. Then they blamed Farage..... See were the Leftist mindset goes? Incapable of defeat, always change the narrative.

originally posted by: muse7
The Electors can still withhold their vote for Trump.

In fact, it's their jobs to prevent a propped up puppet from becoming President.

Although the Founding Fathers wanted the people to have a say, there was concern that a charismatic tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come into power. Alexander Hamilton briefly addressed these concerns in the Federalist Papers. The idea was that the electors would be a group of people who would ensure that a qualified person would become president.

They need smoking gun evidence; then you may have something.

A phone call from or to Trump, or some communication hacked.

Two can play that game...the hack game.

IF this is a serious issue the CIA may be building up to some type of smoking gun


Not enough yet

Odd how this WP article came out right when Obama was yapping on TV.

a reply to: imjack

You're warning me of war if your candidate isn't elected? Call me not surprised. I don't even support Hillary rofl. How disconnected will Trump supporters get?

I'm not loyal to Trump.

I'm loyal to the US and her people. All of them.

If the establishment is so hell bent on upending a legitimate election based on nothing more than unsubstantiated accusations like our OP is making ("Putin's Puppet" for example) you will get chaos. Guaranteed.

a reply to: projectvxn

That's the kind of thing that leads to civil war. If you wanna see FOBs in your neighborhood and bloodshed in your streets keep pushing it. Because you'll get it. This is exactly what the left in this country wants. Utter chaos, the destruction of American institutions, and eventually the deaths of all who oppose them.

what a load of tripe. boo.

ya'll love to brag about your guns and how many you have, AND, your safe spaces and hidey holes.

yet, WE'RE the ones that ones that want civil war. that's laughable to me.

saw this quote in another thread.


"If I don't win the election is rigged and I won't accept the results."

-Donald Trump


what a guy our new president. yay!

I hope we can come together on this possible Russian hacking thing.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: avgguy
You mean she didn't lose because she was a terrible candidate in the middle of an FBI investigation.

I think it is funny that this story isn't even direct from any source at all, the CIA and FBI declined to comment and it is pushing Comey back into being supported by the dems....I mean WTF?

I want to make it clear that I do not know what the heck is going on. I know I'm not getting the truth... but I can't say I know what is going on.

I also want to make it clear that I lack the connections, the finances, the time, the energy nor the desire to finding the truth on this one.

I will say this. My personal take-away from all this is..Be careful who you make deals with.

For years Comey was a VERY respected person from both sides of the aisle. Now he is really just a caricature (in my opinion).

Similarly, Jill Stein, while never had a shot of becoming President, carried herself in a way that garnered a lot of respect from a lot of people from both sides of the political spectrum. Now with her ridiculous recount stuff... she is just a caricature (in my opinion).

I'm sure there are other, lesser known people that have sold their souls to one devil or another... but these two popped into my mind. They have both, quickly, turned from highly respected to simple court jesters.

Make no mistake.... the will both live very comfortably for the rest of their lives. They and their families will want of nothing (financially). They will not suffer in the way that "regular people" suffer when they screw up their careers.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: projectvxn

My bait? Whatever doom porn lets you sleep at night pushing civil war.

You're purposefully twisting my meaning.

I don't want war.

I'm warning you about war.

I don't suffer from normalcy bias. You seem to think everything is fine and this is just a political debate. It isn't.

You're purposefully pushing the blame (scapegoating) to "the left," while pulling the victim card about how you've been called hurtful names.

You're warning us about a war? I don't believe in that BS.

The true enemies to this nation are those involved in high level government.

But by all means continue to place partisanship over country.

I guess you also don't believe that conservatives have made MANY death threats against Obummer and/or Hillary.

But yeah, it's all the libtards fault lol.

People have been brewing hatred against their fellow Americans for awhile. This is nothing new.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: draoicht

just like a slew of GOP nuts were saying Obama was born in Kenya for 8 years. Their grip is just like theirs.

Trump btw way led this group

And they offered up as much proof as this whole Russian boogeyman, guess that void will now be filled by the left.