EXCLUSIVE Interview With Dallas Shooting Witness: Multiple Shooters Confirmed

I had the pleasure of tracking down a confirmed witness, Clarissa Pyles, that attended the black lives matter protest in Dallas. She was less than a block away. She has also been interviewed by several mainstream outlets as well, so I know that she did attend that fateful evening. In this exclusive interview, she estimates that there were 30 or more shots fired in quick repetition without any breaks. The media is reporting that the shooter used an SKS carbine rifle. This rifle has self contained 10 round clip. Unless this rifle had some type of modification, it would be impossible to shoot 30 rounds without reloading.



We also speak about black lives matter and race relations in general toward the end. Please excuse some of the sound quality hickups, as she was on a mobile device using Skype. I think this information is worth a couple of bumps in sound quality.

a reply to: Winstonian

The media is reporting that the shooter used an SKS carbine rifle. This rifle has self contained 10 round clip. Unless this rifle had some type of modification, it would be impossible to shoot 30 rounds without reloading.

a reply to: Winstonian

30 round clips for an SKS aren't at all uncommon.

a reply to: Winstonian

Certain models of SKS use AK magazines. One such is the SKS-D but I don't know if that's an exclusive name.

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

Yes I mentioned this in the post. Thanks for the pics though.

a reply to: Winstonian

I'm not going against anything you're saying but I would like to add to the SKS aspect. While I was listening to the police scanner during the period when he was cornered, the LEOs interacting with him were giving regular updates on the shooter "changing magazines." I will say I was surprised to hear they're saying it was an SKS as you'd think police would be more clear or mention the fact that he was reloading with a stripper clip.

Anyway, the main thing I wanted to say is this: I own 6 SKSs currently, various countries of origin and arsenals. One of the "compliance parts" installed on 2 separate Yugo 59/66s is an adapter that requires nothing more than disassembly, removal of the fixed mag and dropping that adapter in. Once that's in you can use any 7.62x39 AK mag with no trouble. Ok, that's not entirely true. My Bulgarian waffle mags get hung up pretty easily and and real Russian bakelite mags like to slip a bit but you see my point.

But that brings up another question I've had bouncing around my head. I've heard in no uncertain terms that he had "NUMEROUS 30 ROIND MAGAZINES" to the point where they were falling from his pockets. Now I love my AKs and SKSs but unless you're wearing specifically designed tactical gear, you're not fitting more than maybe 6 mags into standard "tactical" cargo pants. Why, if he was planning this and had an "arsenal" as I keep hearing it referred to, did he not have a 90+rd drum mag? Surely if you're aware of the AK mag conversion you're enough of an enthusiast to own at least one of those.

I dunno. Apologies if this isn't coherent, sleep eludes me this evening. I'm just REALLY doubting the "lone shooter AGAIN" line and frankly I think they were so busy hammering "AR15=EVIL!" into our heads that they forgot there are other "scary" guns out there. I have other reasons for doubting the veracity of the SKS claim as well but I suppose we'll see.

Quick edit: it appears the drop in kits are no longer available but my rifles are grandfathered in. Interesting. My point still stands, however. It's a relatively easy receiver modification, no more than 10 minutes. The way I look at it, if people can take cut receiver AKs and make them fully functional again with easily obtained stamped receiver flats in 120° desert huts in the middle East, anyone can do it.

a reply to: Magnivea

He wasn't packed correctly ,his gear wasn't silenced,above all no exit strategy at all.
These Panthers aren't that good.

a reply to: Winstonian

The SKS can take a 30 round magazine with simple modifications.

I do think however that 12 cops shot is quite a lot for one guy.

Plausible to me that there were a couple shooters at least.

a reply to: Magnivea

Your post makes sense. From the different news reports I have been reading, they have been acting as if it was just a stock everyday SKS. We will see what they start reporting over the next few days. I do not buy the official story for a second.

They started out by claiming it was 5 shooters, and then every hour they dropped a suspect until we reached one. The last man standing was a Black Power veteran, very convenient.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Indeed. There's just too much that doesn't make sense. I'm also doing my best to stay on topic and not mention the Call of Duty-esque manner in which he was allegedly neutralized.

Another thing that's been bothering me: the manner in which he approached a defensive position, executed the officer behind the pillar, fired twice more into him and still manages to gain cover in under a second and a half. Then, totally inexplicably, backs himself into a corner on the second (or fourth, I still haven't heard a clear answer on that) floor or a parking garage. He certainly didn't seem like he was on a suicide mission in the first videos after the shooting started....

a reply to: Magnivea

I did a full breakdown discussing all of this stuff as well. I plan on doing another in a few days when we get more "information."
youtu.be...

The problem with affixing a 30rd mag to an sks is that it is much more likely to jam up.

Unless you have one of the Chinese models that were made to incorporate "Ak" clips, you're likely to have jam/double-feed issues. Even the Chinese model has this problem unless you find the clips originally and specifically designed for the model. (which are crazy expensive)

I've owned quite a few SKS in my time. They are deadly accurate out to 150yds with practice. And once you are accustomed to loading the stripper clips, you can put out a high 'rounds per minute' fire rate.

That being said, unless this guy was very highly trained with his rifle, the human damage he caused seems practically impossible. If civilians were also hit, possibly it was a "spray and pray" scenario, but we know that isn't the case... it's obvious there was a specific target in this attack.

To single handily execute this attack, with such extreme accuracy on the targeted demographic is simply unbelievable.

a reply to: Winstonian

It was EXTREMELY convenient. I saw the thread in the breaking news section here 17 minutes after it was posted and immediately switched on the news and police scanner. I'm just going to come right out and say it and I'm sure I'll be flamed to hell and back, but here goes anyway.

What I heard SWAT saying indicated there were a minimum of 3 shooters. One in the parking garage on the 4th floor, one in the BoA building's second floor and one in the BoA 4th floor. Now, unless I am INCREDIBLY mistaken, there was one officer that was shot in the hand while attempting to secure the 4th floor of the BoA building. It sounded to me as if SWAT teams had come through the back of BoA and taken stairways up to secure all floors. The team that was presumably led by the injured officer specifically said about 3 minutes later that they had eyes on the shooter and he was "heavily armored and inaccessible" from their then-position. They also said he was pacing back and forth.

I don't know anything about the other 2 that were mentioned but... he had SWAT right there but managed to move from BoA to the garage across the street with no resistance? Everything went noticeably quiet after that on the frequencies I was monitoring.

Then the woman. This part I am less sure of but I've heard the news make reference to a black woman that was taken into custody. Yet I'm around 90% certain that I heard an officer radio that he had a WHITE woman "fitting the suspect's description" in custody and wasn't sure where to bring her. Again, I'm not sure if I heard correctly and if I did I'm not entirely sure it's relevant. But still. Thats 4 right there. I understand a hectic, terrifying situation leads to less than reliable information but I do know I heard THREE shooters and it's not as if it was one officer running around frantically radioing HQ, these were separate SWAT teams.

So I dont know. Draw your own conclusions. I don't claim to know what happened but I do know half of what we know is intentionally inaccurate at best. I'm sure there are recordings out there somewhere if someone wants to take the time to listen.

a reply to: Magnivea

I did the same thing. I followed this thing like a hawk as soon as it broke. They are hiding something for sure. This is another "official story" that is officially full of holes and lies.

a reply to: seaswine

I've had a lot of people say that but in all honesty I only have an occasional stovepipe issue with Silver Bear 123gr HP and plain Wolf ammo. Once I switched to Wolf Military Classic, no problems. I've never tried the Remington ammo as that unfailingly jams up EVERYTHING I have. Lacquer vs poly coating? I dunno but like I said, no huge problems.

originally posted by: Magnivea
... I heard an officer radio that he had a WHITE woman "fitting the suspect's description" in custody and wasn't sure where to bring her.

For what it's worth, Micah X. Johnson was allegedly living with his stepmother--who is white.

In my opinion the more telling aspect to there likely being more than one shooter is the videos and the positions more so than the sounds and amount of shots in succession. As others have pointed out there are 30 round mags.
It however makes absolutely no sense for the shooter to begin firing from and elevated position in the parking garage, advance to ground level, and then retreat back into a corner to die in the parking garage. I feel like there had to of been at least two of them. One elevated and the one of the ground which we have seen in the videos.

If it was just one guy he would have escaped once he came down to ground level or at least died there trying.

As for the accuracy without hitting civillians. I am sure the shooter(s) trained for this a bunch. Other than that, the police were pushing people out of the area quickly and as far as when the shooting began, dont officers congregate during rallys?

I mean arent they all usually standing shoulder to shoulder or in groups at the very least?

Ill tell you one thing.. for an army resrve carpenter, he has some sick nasty moves.

Break down what he did to that cop behind the pillar in slow motion.

He fired from cover.. waited for the cop to reload...

Then.. he charged the cops position..

Now heres the magic..

He jukes right left right.. and on the last juke right..

He fired 2 #s to the left side of the pillar to trick the cop into thinking he was coming from that side.. then he sneaks around to the other side.

It blows my mind.

That nifty fake cover shot to get the cop to turn was intentional. It was videogame esque.. like every step he took was carefully calculated. When viewed in regular time it just looks like he ran up and executed him.. but when you look at his fine movements and those "trick" shots.. its hard to believe this guy was a reserve carpenter.

I agree as well with the number of shooters. Everyone was saying multiple until the next day.

My guess is the others got away. The ballistics dont match anything they have record of, and they have 0 leads. So theyre just saying he acted alone either:

A: To put the public and the police.force at ease.

Or

B: To slow those suspects down and make them think they got away with it until they figure it out l, to jeep the trail hot

As I stated on another thread, The Washington Post on their FB page apologised for their mistake in quoting 4 shooters when it was actually 2..they admitted they'd jumped the gun and anyone can make mistakes.

a reply to: Magnivea

Hmm I've never tried the wolf military classic. Might have to give it a go next next time.

You're absolutely right about the Remington stuff. That'll stovepipe nearly once every 10rds. Even tul-ammo shoots better than Remington Lol.

But to make one more comment on topic, it's simply incredible (if true) that one person did all of this, no matter the firearm used.

It was 10-11 shot, 5 fatally with apparently approximately 60rds fired by the assailant? That is an amazing accuracy % given the stress and intensity of the situation. Assuming each person only took one round, we're still talking near 20%. For a city setting, even for a navy seal, that would be an impressive number.

I send love to not only those affected, but to everyone... Can we please stop this idiotic killing people stuff? It's getting to be too much...