The DESTROYER'S Lazy Man's Guide to PRAYING

This Thread is not for every one.

This Thread is for people that are stuck in a never-ending spiral of depression.

The goal is to use special techniques related to prayer to climb out of the depression, to feel better for a period of time.

And to use praying to accomplish certain other things.

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*Disclaimer:
1) Every technique may not work for everybody.
2) A technique may work 50, 75 or 85% percent of the time.
3) After climbing out of depression, one may reach a high level of joy, followed by what many saints have described as the "Dark Night of the Soul." A Dark Night would require a reboot or shift in behavior.
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Here we Go....


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Prayer Secret Number One:

Some habits seem nearly impossible to overcome.

Many people wish to lose weight, but the joy and temptation of eating for many is so strong that they find it nearly impossible to skip even a single day of eating those delicious snacks.

For others, the struggle is from the lure and temptation to drink copious amounts of alcohol.


For others, the addiction to internet porn is overwhelming...every day.


Once you start to fill your mind with these thoughts such as the delicious taste of food, the image of the food/the bottle of beer/the porn, the slight dwelling on the thoughts often cause the attraction, the thirst, the compulsion, the desire to become stronger, and the will power to become weaker.


Prayer Secret Number One is this:
To reduce the odds of succumbing to temptation...

You must pray AS SOON AS THE AFFECTING THOUGHT ENTERS THE MIND. If you pray between 10 and 20 Our Father's instead of dwelling on the thought, the temptation will subside completely a good percentage of the time.


But there is another part to the secret. This is the important part. You may decide to pray the next time a temptation occurs, but instead, your mind decides to push aside or forget thoughts of praying at that moment.

To overcome that problem you must implement a second part of the secret. The true secret trick is to go closer to God, throughout the day. Not just when the troubling temptation arrives.

What you do here is pray 1 Our Father spread THROUGHOUT the Day, somewhat randomly.
Every 40 or so minutes you Pray 1 Our Father. (perhaps starting with every 15 or 20 minutes).

Suddenly the idea pops into your mind to pray, and you pray 1 Our Father. Then 20 to 40 minutes latter you pray 1 Our Father.


When the idea to eat the delicious snack, or the idea to drink, or the thoughts of sex enter the mind, you can now pray more easily as your mind is used to praying at random moments.

After a few days of that, you can probably stop praying 1 Our Father every 25 minutes approximately, and instead your mind now is capable of triggering the prayer response at each moment the images/sounds/thoughts associated with the temptation occurs.


For several days, the strong temptations may pop into the mind frequently, like 25 to 30 times throughout the day.
But eventually there would certainly be days in which the strong temptations occurs much, much less frequently (once, twice, six times in a day).
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Prayer Secret Number Two:

When a sudden bout of loneliness occurs. Strike back by Praying 15 to 20 Our Father's at that moment. The lonely feeling can go away.



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PRAYER SECRET NUMBER THREE:

A great, great time to pray is immediately after physical activity. Or praying immediately after physically helping people with your hands and entire being,
or immediately after doing any physical work, even after a brisk 10 minute walk.


When your body is physically active, the heart beats faster, the temperature rises, the skin sweets. There are a bunch of physical processes being activated in the flesh.
Now stop. Stop lifting, stop running. Over the next 20 minutes after ceasing activity: Now other processes in the flesh are occurring with the stillness, the heart beats are getting slower, the body temperate is dropping, the blood flow is normalizing.

That is the moment you should be praying.
You did physical work to help another person, or significant physical work around the house, or you did your daily/weekly exorcise, or you walked briskly for 15 minutes and broke out in a sweat, or you walked for 10 minutes in the cold outdoor winter....NOW
stop suddenly, sit down and pray 20 Our Father's as your flesh and heart are normalizing

Don't only pray when you have an under-activated lazy heart of stone. Make your prayer life associated with action of the flesh.


God made the 7th day for prayer and rest. This is your secret. Immediately after physically active work, invoke the command for rest and holiness.

Your body when physically active represents the first six days, your body when suddenly put to rest immediately after the physical activity when it undergoes other processes of cooling and calming down represents the 7th day The Sabbath Day.

Exodus 20:8-11:
“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work...For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

Isaiah 30:15 - "For thus the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel, has said,
“In repentance and rest you will be saved,
In quietness and trust is your strength.
But you were not willing,"


After being physical active, then immediately sitting down for 20 minutes of prayer. You can try this at some point:
Be As still as possible while praying 20 Our Father's.

Zechariah 2:13 "Be still before the Lord, all mankind"

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PRAYER SECRET NUMBER 4:

When you are in the presence of a person, your mind may generate certain unrealized feelings associated with them. A good friend that makes you laugh a lot may trigger a vague positive affection. While a person that constantly criticizes you may trigger a great discomfort when in the room with you.

With a person you have negative feeling, or no feeling for, you can pray while you focus vividly on the other person. Or you can pray while focusing vividly on a mental image of that other person.


Your focus is on two things simultaneously: 1) On Prayer 2) On another person
or you quickly alternate between 1) Prayer 2) real image or mental image of Another Person. You Pray 1 Our Father then you focus on other person, you pray, then you focus on other person, you pray, then you focus on person, etc.

When doing this, I would strongly focus on the inner being of the other person. At other times the whole time that I pray 20 Our Father's I am mentally imagining that I am putting my hand on the other person's shoulder.

By doing this for about 20 Our Father's, I have actually created a positive feeling, a tenderness towards the other person, for a period after the prayer session.

I would look at another person in the room...no tender feeling for them...then turn my attention back towards the target of my prayers..and yes the positive tender feeling is present.


continued....

PRAYER SECRET NUMBER FIVE:


A Good looking woman peers towards me and suddenly I feel judged by that person. In that moment I "offer up to God the judgement of that other person" as I pray 15 to 20 Our Father's.

By the end of prayer, I often feel pretty good instead of feeling judged.


Recently I was feeling disgust for another person. I offered up my "disgust" to God at the moment of disgust was fresh, and prayed for a while. The feeling of disgust went away and was replaced by a nice feeling.


Another time, I spoke to a cashier, and said something stupid. I felt embarrassed. Immediately I said to God "I offer up this embarrassment to you" and immediately started praying in my mind for about the next 10 minutes. By the end of praying and offering I felt good instead of embarrassed.

Prayer Secret Number Three B


After walking in the mall and then going to the library, I felt bad and isolated.

Since I had been walking around, thus my flesh was physically active.

I sat down at the library, and as my flesh was undergoing the rest phase, due to the sitting, and prayed the 20 Our Father's, afterwards I felt better.

Prayer Secret Number 6

A few times when experiencing the urge to insult another, criticize another, or yell, I decided to pray instead at that moment.

Instead of a heated verbal exchange becoming a yelling match and causing anger and a foul mood for 1 or 2 hours afterwards, the bypassing of the ego/anger through gentle prayer, provided me with a better emotionally more joyful option.

PRAYER SECRET NUMBER 7.

I am a lazy, lazy person.

One technique to reduce laziness is immediately after every prayer session: Go pick up one or two misplaced objects (a book, flyers, pens, video games) and put them where they belong in the other room on the bookshelf, drawer, stack, etc. Or after each prayer session do one small task, wash one dirty plate, etc.

With quick prayer sessions throughout the day, followed immediately by small actions, the laziness may be reduced and good behavior becomes associated with prayer.


to be continued....

I think the depression is being facilitated from this routine you have established.

Depression is an illness, a genome lag effect from evolution. Praying to something is not the best solution. Obviously you find comfort from it but what happens when god doesn't return the call like usual, it will only make things worse.

GL in the future though.

a reply to: BrianCanad

Or you could get a job, or a hobby. Then you won't think about masterbating so much. No god required.

just another one of Gnosisisfaith's/./././././Parazurvan multiple accounts he creates before he gets caught in one of his other usernames as he has since December 2015

He is juggling at least 3 new accounts he created yesterday prior to his getting banned today.

He is a religious disinformationist. Watch how he uses the 3 D's www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: BrianCanad

People are mean. Thanks for thinking about helping people, even if they don't listen.

a reply to: GemmyMcGemJew

I think the depression is being facilitated from this routine you have established.

No, No, I do not consider myself depressed.

I am fairly uncomfortable with social interactions, therefore I avoid most people. And my mood is usually "O.K." not good not great. Yes, if I had a solid good social life, my mood would be better. But since I do not, I have to find other measures to improve my mood, such as prayer.


When I resort to praying strategically at various times throughout the day, my mood improves over time. If I do such things for 2 or 3 weeks, my mood rises steadily to a very good level, then it baselines at good. But it takes work and effort. And there are up's and down's along the road.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

You are incorrect sir, my real name is Brian, I am from Canada, and I have no idea who this "Gnosisisfaith" person you speak of.

a reply to: Szarah

Thanks for the support.

PRAYER SECRET NUMBER 8:


I have tinkered with the following technique, but I have significantly delayed full experimentation of this technique for a latter time hoping that it works real magic, not wanting to find out so soon that this technique provides only a little bit of help (which would be disappointing).

Nervous and fearful of talking to someone in particular?

Here's what you can try with PRAYER SECRET NUMBER 8

.....Imagine you are with the other person. Say to yourself "I cannot talk to this person." Feel the discomfort and feel the resistance. Feel the negativity as intensely as you can.


Now Pray ...

Pray the Our Father about 15 to 20 times while keeping your mind focused on the discomfort and focused on the visuals of you talking to the other person.


After each Our Father, continue to say to yourself "I cannot speak to this other person" you want to truly feel the discomfort, you want to feel the discomfort in your flesh and bones.


After about saying 15 to 20 Our Father's you may feel clearly that the discomfort and resistance from the images and thought that "I cannot talk to this person" ....have been vanquished. And that the negative feeling has been replaced by a calm pleasant feeling.

So when you think of truly talking to this other person, instead of the mind trying to scare you with a flight or fight response, and the thought of "I can't talk to this other person" causing a great distress, you feel instead a pleasant and a little excited.

But then you might have to deal with the fear of not having anything smart to say....

a reply to: BrianCanad

I'm muslim, but all I have to do is replace "our father" by surah al-fatiha. It really warms my heart to see how god conscious you are. Awesome thread, many thanks for sharing your practical advice. S&F for sure.

a reply to: BrianCanad
Yer I think he got it wrong. He would have been right with every other religious thread though.

a reply to: GemmyMcGemJew

never mind just watch them both.

originally posted by: BrianCanad

This Thread is not for every one.
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2) A technique may work 50, 75 or 85% percent of the time.

Ah bummer, I was looking for a technique that works 60% of the time, guess this thread is not for me, unless you're willing to say that you just made up those numbers from your imagination or fantasy. Still don't think this thread is for me though. I do like fantasy novels and movies, but they have a bit more story to it (and some action and adventure).

originally posted by: BrianCanad
Pray the Our Father about 15 to 20 times while keeping your mind focused on the discomfort and focused on the visuals of you talking to the other person.

Matthew 6:7 (Jesus teaching how not to pray):
When praying, do not say the same things over and over again as the people of the nations do, for they imagine they will get a hearing for their use of many words.

I suspect your methods have 0% success rate given Jesus' words about it. Btw, verse 7 and 8 is just before what you refer to as "the Our Father" (which is an example of a prayer, not meant to be repeated word for word over and over without even understanding the first line in it: "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified." That name being Jehovah, not Jesus, since he's the one saying "our Father", as in his Father in the heavens as well; but I guess that's a long story regarding the doctrine of the Trinity and replacement of God's name with the title "the LORD" almost 7000 times in bible translations. I'm sure your mind is filled with misinformation about that name and the correct spelling in the Enlgish language or other languages, such as Latin: Iehova, and Hebrew: Yehowah; see the Masoretic Texts for the vowel marks for YHWH).

Notice which other religions (or people of the nations) pray the same things over and over again in the video below shortly after 4 minutes:

a reply to: whereislogic

you did know the video you chose is a promotional video of the JW cult?

originally posted by: ElectricFeel
a reply to: BrianCanad

I'm muslim, but all I have to do is replace "our father" by surah al-fatiha. It really warms my heart to see how god conscious you are. Awesome thread, many thanks for sharing your practical advice. S&F for sure.

Your welcome.

And thank you for giving me another idea, I think at the right moment I will repeat the words "I Love You God, I Love You God" over and over for about ten minutes, and maybe I will notice that I actually have more love in my heart. I know that I could really use more love for my fellow human being, instead of indifference.

If all else fails,

...there is the cold shower penance.


A 3 minute cold shower after your regular shower, can have a quite unpleasant sting for a moment.

But oh man, if anything will bring quick relief from a dark depression, it is the combination of a real cold but quick shower (offering up the unpleasantness of it to God) followed immediately by 20 prayers.


However, you should consult a doctor, to determine that you are healthy enough to handle it.

The shower water probably needs to be sufficiently cold and if your body insulates you against feeling the cold, this may not be a valid option for you.