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What is the difference between Libertarian and Authoritarian?
originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Gothmog
I liked your old avatar more .. just saying
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Gothmog
I liked your old avatar more .. just saying
This one is my original avatar . Bigger , Meaner , and Uglier. Me to a T. In fact , if I remember right , it is a selfie
originally posted by: tommo39
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
I remember the quote: "Fear is at the core of liberalism, and love/trust is at the core of conservatism. Liberalism is about control. Conservatism is about self-empowerment".......
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: tommo39
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
I remember the quote: "Fear is at the core of liberalism, and love/trust is at the core of conservatism. Liberalism is about control. Conservatism is about self-empowerment".......
That quote is only accurate every other decade. Then it reverses
Liberalism was the conservative tenant. It came from Locke and the empericists. Then conservatives became fiscal conservatives and took over the liberal meaning. Then some progressives were " Republicans" like T.Roosevelt. Now the "conservatives" are every bit as authoritarian if not more than the liberals. The Republican party since JFK and the fight to keep a Catholic out of the white house created the religeous right. 5he religeous right pretty much control the Republican party policy. All of it authoritarian. Liberals use socialism as there authoritarian platform.
It's the Cincinnati shuffle.
originally posted by: Gothmog
What is the difference between Libertarian and Authoritarian?
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
Neither extreme makes for a livable, sustainable society. Libertarianism becomes anarchy, which allows the strong to exploit the weak. In order to retain their gains, the strong turn authoritarian. An authoritarian society is not only oppressive, it is inflexible. This is why totalitarian states like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union eventually collapse... into anarchy, and the cycle repeats.
A stable society requires democratic institutions, the rule of law, and well regulated free markets. Toleration, mutual respect, freedom of expression, and community service are also necessary. Neither Libertarianism nor Authoritarianism can provide these conditions. Liberal democracy, which as even Hayek acknowledged, can include "socialist" institutions, is the most livable option.
originally posted by: tommo39
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
I remember the quote: "Fear is at the core of liberalism, and love/trust is at the core of conservatism. Liberalism is about control. Conservatism is about self-empowerment".......
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
Neither extreme makes for a livable, sustainable society. Libertarianism becomes anarchy,libertarianism is a vast umbrella of doctrines.Anarchism is just one family of libertarian doctrines. Anarchism is a pure/ideal form of libertarianism. which allows the strong to exploit the weak.Anarchism is not strong taking advantage of the weak. That is what authoritarianism is. In order to retain their gains, the strong turn authoritarian.true An authoritarian society is not only oppressive, it is inflexible. This is why totalitarian states like Nazi Germanyfascist nationalistic authoritarian craphole and the Soviet UnionSocialist authoritarian craphole eventually collapse... into anarchyfalse.They instituted another new power structure in the place of the old power structure. The new power struction was not based on the NAP nor did it have no rulers. So no it was not textbook anarchism. Nice try., and the cycle repeats.Nope.
A stable society requires democratic institutionsA dictatorship of the majority, the rule of law,libertarians are not against laws and rule of law and well regulated free markets.who regulates the regulators? How do you keep the powerful from hijacking the regulation? you authoritarian have failed at that badly Tolerationlibertarians are the most tolerant, mutual respect,ok check freedom of expression,Libertarians are for freedom of expression and community servicecheck are also necessary. Neither Libertarianism nor Authoritarianism can provide these conditions.Wrong. Liberal democracy, which as even Hayek acknowledged, can include "socialist" institutions, is the most livable option.
originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
Neither extreme makes for a livable, sustainable society. Libertarianism becomes anarchy,libertarianism is a vast umbrella of doctrines.Anarchism is just one family of libertarian doctrines. Anarchism is a pure/ideal form of libertarianism. which allows the strong to exploit the weak.Anarchism is not strong taking advantage of the weak. That is what authoritarianism is. In order to retain their gains, the strong turn authoritarian.true An authoritarian society is not only oppressive, it is inflexible. This is why totalitarian states like Nazi Germanyfascist nationalistic authoritarian craphole and the Soviet UnionSocialist authoritarian craphole eventually collapse... into anarchyfalse.They instituted another new power structure in the place of the old power structure. The new power struction was not based on the NAP nor did it have no rulers. So no it was not textbook anarchism. Nice try., and the cycle repeats.Nope.
A stable society requires democratic institutionsA dictatorship of the majority, the rule of law,libertarians are not against laws and rule of law and well regulated free markets.who regulates the regulators? How do you keep the powerful from hijacking the regulation? you authoritarian have failed at that badly Tolerationlibertarians are the most tolerant, mutual respect,ok check freedom of expression,Libertarians are for freedom of expression and community servicecheck are also necessary. Neither Libertarianism nor Authoritarianism can provide these conditions.Wrong. Liberal democracy, which as even Hayek acknowledged, can include "socialist" institutions, is the most livable option.
Social welfare institutions can be voluntarily funded by the community and don't need the state to steal from people to exist.
You have a warped view of what a libertarian is.
-Against the monopoly of force/power/rule in a group of people or person.
-Against the initialization of force.
-We don't hate the poor.
-We are for inherent human rights
-We are don't work for the fortune 500.
-We are for social welfare just not through the state and funded voluntarily
-We are for personal freedom
-We are for extremely decentralized power.
-We are for empowering the individual.
-Against coercive violence
-Against involuntary taxes
-Against centralized power.
Social welfare institutions can be voluntarily funded by the community and don't need the state to steal from people to exist.
You have a warped view of what a libertarian is.
-Against the monopoly of force/power/rule in a group of people or person.
-Against the initialization of force.
-We don't hate the poor.
-We are for inherent human rights
-We are don't work for the fortune 500.
-We are for social welfare just not through the state and funded voluntarily
-We are for personal freedom
-We are for extremely decentralized power.
-We are for empowering the individual.
-Against coercive violence
-Against involuntary taxes
-Against centralized power.