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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: tigertatzen
It's kind of presumptuous of you to think that you are the only person who can come up with such a saying...
originally posted by: Ruiner1978
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Ruiner1978
I own the theatrical release of it on VHS, she does not have braces.
www.retro-daze.org...
Looks like she has a mouth full of metal to me...
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: tigertatzen
I'm called a jerk and I'm the hostile one...
I cannot, of course, gauge how much the discovery that memories, perceptions and cognitions can be mistaken causes discomfort, pain, mental anguish etc. to anyone. I've never even implied that I could. Wow, talk about putting words in someone's mouth!
So, rationally, given your understanding that our perceptions and processing can be less than perfect, may I invite you to muse on?
If that's true, then the most reasonable explanation, and the simplest, requiring the least amount of supposition, the fewest number of assumptions ... is that these "Mandela Event(s)" are based on those less than perfect or limited processors and storage mechanisms?
If so, we're fairly close in what we're saying here. If not, we disagree. Both are okay!
I just don't see the downside of a natural explanation. I don't see the value in assuming "time travel" or "dimensional shift" or "divine intervention." But that, it seems like it should be needless to say, is me and my perceptions.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: TombEscaper
What I find interesting is that you and others like you are on a soapbox about the fallibility of the memory of masses of people, and yet, you are quite certain that your memory is correct ...
Nope. Several of us have stated, clearly, that we still have "memory dissonance" when it comes to a few things (Like, for me, Mr. Roger's Themesong, Cup Noodles, etc.). However, it is not our memories we trust, but physical evidence, photographs, video recordings, satellite imagery, etc. So, no, it's not so simply reducible to "my memory versus yours."
Although, of course, the insistence that your universe has changed as opposed to memory issues is subjectively unassailable.
As us so called "twisters" have noted several times in several different ways.
Far far back in this thread, I mentioned confirmation bias. Compare that with what you're saying about "continuing to look for the 'Mandela Effect(s) and finding more and more instances of it happening."
Confirmation bias, again, the human tendency to discover what we're looking for.
As to why some of us keep posting when we have been called everything in the book ... you yourself have said how negatively the beliefs that your universe has shifted somehow around you is causing you pain.
Why is the possibility that your memory had some errors which is now compounded by "looking for" the "Mandela Effects(s)" so repellant or repugnant or disgusting to you?
And even if you are intent on continuing to look for the fantastic solution ... why are you so troubled by others who are relieved by the mundane one?
originally posted by: Ruiner1978
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Ruiner1978
I own the theatrical release of it on VHS, she does not have braces.
www.retro-daze.org...
Looks like she has a mouth full of metal to me...
originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: tigertatzen
Just an aside, I was surprised, after reading one of your posts, to see a TV commercial last night for a comic's stand up routine called "I'm not fat... I'm fuzzy."
So either it's a known saying/thing, and independent copy, or it was the universe drinking again.
I have a friend who swears they coined the term "wife beater" tank top in the 1980's... but others have sworn they had heard it for decades before that... maybe my fried DID coin the term, but others did, too, independently... or maybe they heard it, put it in their mental pocket, and "rediscovered" it, later, or it was an example of the Sheldrake "Morphic Resonance" or something?
Dunno, but thought you'd like to know... and no, cannot remember the comic's name.. .but bet Google would find it... unless I was dreaming, and at this point, who knows.
Back to destroying my sense of reality...
eta:Ah... Gabriel I is the name!.. .I see someone else saw the same tour commercial.. .again, sorry for posting before reading the new posts!
eta x2 BUT what surprised me in the first place, was I had never heard that phrase before, ever, and now it's 'common' (if 2 instances is common) all of a sudden... is what I meant, heh.. .a strange coincidence (synchronicity)!
etaX3 and the Giza Plateau is how I remember it.. .they are still great, nearly great and the little guy off center with a few teensy ones nearby... and Cairo has grown around them, enveloping them... so ... same, at least in my universe.
a reply to: Baddogma
The thing that bugs me is that the whole concept was they were simpatico due to both being 'metal mouths'... and her smiling so huge, in so many shots, was to show the braces...
The whole thing makes no sense w/out the braces!
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Gryphon66
I don't think its unreasonable to consider a whole bunch of ME stuff as normal memory lapses or flaws in how we process information. It is a responsible part of any investigation to look at how what we already know can be applied to the problem. I am simultaneously holding open the option that this is an opportunity for discovery that might add to our "known knowns" rather than defy them. That is all. I am not claiming, again, to be clear, anything other than a "natural" explanation either - I'm just wondering if SOME ME type events might point to a new way of understanding/learning about our "natural" physical reality. Thus my musings on the nature of "time" specifically being "up for debate" amongst scientific luminaries, and my wonderment at how our brains interpret the quantum soup we live in. Different "receiver" = a different experience of "reality."
we're all in Plato's Cave, watching the increasingly distorted shadows