Dose of Reality: Millennials would flock to Clinton over Trump

Oh yea, we're just going to forget HRC's past and suddenly vote for her.

Just say no to Hillary!

She hates being told no!

These Clinton vs Trump polls are skewed because Trump hasn't debated Hillary face to face yet.

Wait for THAT !!!!

She will have to cough her way out.

a reply to: muse7
No need to reply now, I think I understand why you support Clinton:

Clinton has received more votes than any other candidate in the primaries..that includes Trump

The Supreme court will be at stake this November. I could stomach 4 years of Clinton to prevent a Conservative stacked supreme court for the next 30 years.

Which college do you go to? I know plenty at mine that are perfectly okay with Clinton or Sanders and I go to college in Texas

No but this poll is about Millennials, and it shows a large number of them would vote for Clinton over Trump.

I think the picture is clearer now. Normally I would question why anyone would support a candidate under a current FBI investigation, that used her position as SoS to garner personal wealth and power, and who has changed position on issues if it gained her votes. But that's not the purpose of this thread, so I leave you to it.

originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
a reply to: muse7
No need to reply now, I think I understand why you support Clinton:

Clinton has received more votes than any other candidate in the primaries..that includes Trump

The Supreme court will be at stake this November. I could stomach 4 years of Clinton to prevent a Conservative stacked supreme court for the next 30 years.

Which college do you go to? I know plenty at mine that are perfectly okay with Clinton or Sanders and I go to college in Texas

No but this poll is about Millennials, and it shows a large number of them would vote for Clinton over Trump.

I think the picture is clearer now. Normally I would question why anyone would support a candidate under a current FBI investigation, that uses her position as SoS to garner personal wealth and power, and who has changed position on issues if it gained her votes. But that's not the purpose of this thread, so I leave you to it.

I was actually about to PM you with my reasons as to why I'm supporting Clinton, although Bernie would make a very good candidate himself.

And here I thought you were undecided! Looks like you had made up your mind before this thread was even made!

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: MysticPearl
I don't disagree most in that age range support Shillary and Bernie. I do however disagree with the conclusion.

One, far less in that generation are turning out to vote than in previous cycles. Democratic voting is down across the board while Republican voting has shot through the roof. The younger generation on social media is extremely active but that's different than getting their butts to the polls to vote, which they haven't done. Meanwhile, more and more Democrats and Independents are turning out to vote for Trump. Mass is an example of that.

Two, Shillary supporters hate Bernie supporters and vice versa. One thing Bernie supporters share with Trump is being anti-establishment. There's been a number of polls showing Bernie supporters would vote Trump as their 2nd choice(anything but Clinton) and that Trump supporters if he lost the nomination, would turn out for Bernie.

Anti-establishment sentiment will rule this election.

The Bernie voters that would vote Trump if Bernie isn't nominated, aren't really progressives or liberals. To them anti-establishment trumps (no pun intended) policy.

When you add up the anti-establishment votes both Bernie and Trump have, it crushes Shillary.

That's why Trump will win the general election.

When Bernie loses out to Shillary, some of his support will stay home, those who do vote will turn out for Trump. Why? Trump being against the establishment, Trump speaking out against the war in Iraq and having the balls to rightly blame Bush for the Iraq disaster, speaking up about the Saudi connection, going against the GOP and recognizing Planned Parenthood does a lot of good for women outside abortions, etc, are important stances they share and stances which float between party lines, thus more important than Shillary policy or liberal vs conservative.

originally posted by: AlaskanDad
Oh yea, we're just going to forget HRC's past and suddenly vote for her.

Just say no to Hillary!

She hates being told no!

AlaskanDad I admire your devotion to Sanders.

But to quote Bill Maher -

I’m telling you, this is going to be the death of liberals, this nit-picky intramural attacking of friends for insufficient purity. Compulsively cleaning up a little corner of the room that’s already quite clean — while there are giant piles of crap everywhere else!

a reply to: muse7

My OPINION is, this poll is bull# or someone (could be admin or pollster) manipulated the results. I was born in 88 and the last millennial were born in 89. What I've experienced is trump being my generations second choice. I think this poll was hijacked by next gen/gen Wii voters.

i am a bernie supporter and i have considered voting for trump if hillary gets the nomination. although i am gen x so i do get off my duff and vote.

also i reregistered as no party preference so i can vote in the dem primary in my state. something all should be doing or have done...if you arent doing your part to help get the nomination, then you really aren't a supporter are you?

originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: muse7

My OPINION is, this poll is bull# or someone (could be admin or pollster) manipulated the results. I was born in 88 and the last millennial were born in 89. What I've experienced is trump being my generations second choice. I think this poll was hijacked by next gen/gen Wii voters.

mil·len·nial
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adjective
1.
denoting or relating to a period of a thousand years.
"the current increase in hurricanes is only a small fluctuation within this longer millennial cycle"
2.
denoting or relating to an anniversary of a thousand years.
"the millennial anniversary of Leif Eiriksson's voyage to the New World"
noun
1.
a person reaching young adulthood around the year 2000; a Generation Yer.
"the industry brims with theories on what makes millennials tick"

Dose of reality, USA today is bought and paid for by Clinton.

I have never met a real person who likes, or trusts Clinton.

The one who did, was quickly corrected. He thought it would be "neat" to see a woman president.

I'm surprised they didn't poll the liberal cesspool of Facebook, man Clanders would probably win rulers of Facebookland.

a reply to: muse7

If liberals are hand fed pets of the 1%, maybe they do not deserve our votes.

HRC gets an endorsement, LOL's!


Hillary Clinton Just Got An EMBARRASSING Endorsement She Doesn’t Want You To Know About…

"Her true colors are going to show."

Hillary Clinton was recently endorsed by Will Quigg. Quigg is a grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan’s California chapter and is in charge of recruitment in the western states of the U.S. “We want Hillary to win,” Quigg told The Telegraph.

“She is telling everybody one thing, but she has a hidden agenda. She’s telling everybody what they want to hear so she can get elected, because she’s Bill Clinton’s wife, she’s close to the Bushes. Once she’s in the presidency, she’s going to come out and her true colors are going to show,” he said.

The KKK member went on, “border policies are going to be put in place. Our Second Amendment rights that she’s saying she’s against now, she’s not against. She’s just our choice for the presidency.”

source


So I have to ask you, honestly #WhichHillary ?

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
a reply to: muse7
No need to reply now, I think I understand why you support Clinton:

Clinton has received more votes than any other candidate in the primaries..that includes Trump

The Supreme court will be at stake this November. I could stomach 4 years of Clinton to prevent a Conservative stacked supreme court for the next 30 years.

Which college do you go to? I know plenty at mine that are perfectly okay with Clinton or Sanders and I go to college in Texas

No but this poll is about Millennials, and it shows a large number of them would vote for Clinton over Trump.

I think the picture is clearer now. Normally I would question why anyone would support a candidate under a current FBI investigation, that uses her position as SoS to garner personal wealth and power, and who has changed position on issues if it gained her votes. But that's not the purpose of this thread, so I leave you to it.

I was actually about to PM you with my reasons as to why I'm supporting Clinton, although Bernie would make a very good candidate himself.

And here I thought you were undecided! Looks like you had made up your mind before this thread was even made!

I am undecided as to who I will vote for. I apologize for jumping the gun and not waiting for your pm. I have voted D, R, and I in the past, after vetting each candidate. Hillary supporters are a rarity to me, and explanations as to why she is supported are rarer still.

Bottom line, I won't vote for HRC, Rubio, or Cruz. I was drawn to Sanders early on, especially his sincerity in a desire to want a better society. It was the projected costs of his visions that turned me off, and that nagging detail of being a self-avowed socialist. I will not vote for HRC under any circumstances, but that's me.

a reply to: muse7

Well if the election is a 'slam dunk'.

Why are people 'protesting' Trump?

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: muse7

I'm voting for Bernie. If he doesn't win the nomination than I'm voting for Gary Johnson.

Most people don't cut off their noses to spite their face

The Supreme court will be at stake this November. I could stomach 4 years of Clinton to prevent a Conservative stacked supreme court for the next 30 years.

And that would be the only reason that Clinton may be able to beat Trump, but I wouldn't even bet on that.

If it weren't for the SCOTUS, I'd vote for Bernie or not at all.

There is nothing I want less than a POTUS who is constantly apologizing for mistakes and bad judgement.

Standing up for Bill during the Lewinsky scandal and insisting it was just another republican witch hunt was an apparent mistake.

She now begrudgingly admits her vote for the Iraq war was a mistake.

Her support of NAFTA was a "huge" mistake.

Her memory of being under enemy sniper fire while visiting Bosnia was a mistake/bald faced lie.

She now admits her decision to utilize a home-based, non-secure server for her email while serving as SOS, was a mistake. Not to mention, terrible judgement.

She now admits that her support of TPP and describing it as "the gold standard" of trade deals was a mistake.

Not to mention her very recent admission that she made a mistake by describing Nancy Reagan as an LGBT rights supporter. Hell, she barely got the words out of her mouth before she was having to apologize.

If Hillary has proven anything, it's the fact that she definitely believes in the philosophy that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Like I said in the beginning, if it weren't for the likelihood of SCOTUS vacancies during the next presidency, I just sit back and let them have Trump if the democrats rejected Bernie.

On top of that, I personally believe that Hillary "I made a mistake" Clinton will get shredded once she gets up against someone who, unlike Bernie, is willing to attack her multitude of past lies, weaknesses, bad judgment calls and blatant mistakes.

And I assure you, the republican candidate, whomever it is, will do just that.

I predict that if Hillary wins the nomination, the democrats lose the election.

originally posted by: thesaneone
Sorry but this entitled minded generation don't do anything but talk crap, talk talk talk no action unless you count making a sign complaining that their safe place has been violated.

Funny how every generation of adults genralize each new generation with that near exact same thing you said.

We are not entilted, lazy or bone idol, we merely live in a different world where the majority of under 30's know everbody is just human and are becoming very aware that TPTB are #ing up this world, in every aspect - education, wars, work, money - everything.

Its common knowledge that the media is bull#. Religion is dying out. Racism is dying out. People are fighting for the rights of other peoples freedoms in the aspects of what the government tries to control e.g homosexuals been able to marry, drugs becoming legal.

You are merely an old version that needs to adapt.

Trump doesnt bring America change, he only brings America hate.

Clinton would just be the same as the last 5 years, which is bad but not as bad as 5 years with Trump.

Sanders may not be perfect, but he's a step in the right direction - which the world needs.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: muse7

Well if the election is a 'slam dunk'.

Why are people 'protesting' Trump?

They are most likely paid actors. Both sides have been caught staging fans,. She did it when she was in Iowa. Just setting the stage.

a reply to: Mandroid7

Wouldn't surprise me if Clinton was the one paying them.

She isn't 'above' those dirty tricks.

originally posted by: n00bUK

originally posted by: thesaneone
Sorry but this entitled minded generation don't do anything but talk crap, talk talk talk no action unless you count making a sign complaining that their safe place has been violated.

Trump doesnt bring America change, he only brings America hate.

Wanting to protect America's borders, fix the American economy, fix the American healthcare system, improve American education, and to find an answer to one of the greatest threats facing America in Islam, which no democrat will touch, is "hate"?

Would you be so kind as to point me to the definition of hate you're using? I can't seem to find it.

a reply to: muse7

Yes some bernie supporters are "bernie or bust" but i think the majority of them would choose clinton over trump any day of the week that ends with Y

I think you're probably right...there is NO GOP candidate worth considering.
Clinton = more Obama
Bernie = change for the better

Trump = AYFKM?