While You Were Sleeping: 44% of Republicans Favor an American Theocracy

I think the 44% of theocrat republicans should get together with the 41% of democrat socialists and beat each other over the head with their bibles and little red books.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Fun! Can you arrange that?

A Theocracy ?

If this, were to happen right now,
IN the world we have today,

When there are so many twisted and watered down VERSION, of the gospel of Christ,
Along with that also, being done with the Old Testament,

It would have horrific negative consequences,

no thank you.

European Countries with a state religion or recently had one as of 2000 (Sweden)

Catholic Liechenstein, Malta, Monaco

Protestant: england, Denmark Norway, Sweden, Finland

They were just taking a page from socialist utopia. Cmon lets be more like Denmark

If only we all could be lutheran socialist in a homogenous country all would be well.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: grandmakdw

Your argument actually makes the case that to be a Democratic
politician one can not be a Christian.

That's a really nasty thing to say.. To me it's not about Christianity.

It's about the Constitution and Separation of Church and State. That's all it is. I have my church. I have my country.
They are separate. I want to keep it that way.

/fin

I did not mean to be nasty.

You say the best politician is one who
completely separates his or her
religious belief system from
the job. Therefore a Christian
would not be eligible. Christianity is
an integral part of a Christians life,
one that can not be torn aside and
pushed aside and entirely forgotten
when making important decisions
of state.

By not wanting church and state to ever
touch, you are saying that a Christian
can not be a politician because their
faith will always be a factor in their decision
making. Because faith is such an integral
part of who a Christian is that to say,
religion be d...med when making important
decisions that could affect millions, just
isn't possible.

Therefore, for complete and total separation
where religious ideology or thought process
never touch the state, your ideal politician
would be atheist or anti-theist, not a
Christian.
It would preclude and forbid a Christian
from serving in politics at all.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: grandmakdw

Here's your 'challenge' answered:
Religious affiliation in the U S Senate

The most basic breakdown of the above data indicates that 85% of the Senate is Christian (compared with 78%[178] of the population) and 9% of the Senate is Jewish (compared with 1.7% of the population).

The following list compares reported religious affiliations of U. S. Senators to religious statistics of the demographics of the United States of America:

Catholics are represented by 28% of the Senate for 25.9% of the population. (1.08×)
Baptists are represented by 10% of the Senate for 17.2% of the population. (0.58×)
Unaffiliated persons are represented by 3% of the Senate for 16.1% of the population. (0.19×)
Methodists are represented by 8% of the Senate for 7.2% of the population. (1.11×)
Lutherans are represented by 5% of the Senate for 4.6% of the population. (1.09×)
Presbyterians are represented by 13% of the Senate for 2.8% of the population. (4.64×)
Episcopalians are represented by 4% of the Senate for 1.8% of the population. (2.22×)
Jews are represented by 9% of the Senate for 1.7% of the population. (5.88×)
Latter-Day Saints are represented by 7% of the Senate for 1.4% of the population. (5.00×)

Go to the link for the specific PEOPLE. And that's just the SENATE!

Here's another one: Survey: Nearly 92% of Congress is Christian

Though Christians dominate both parties, Democrats are more religiously diverse than Republicans. Of the 301 Republicans in the 114th Congress, Jewish freshman Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York is the only non-Christian.

A large majority of Democrats in Congress (80%) are Christian, with 44% Protestant, 35% Catholic and 1% Mormon. But unlike Republicans, Democrats in Congress are 12% Jewish and have two Buddhist, two Muslims, one Hindu and one unaffiliated member.

Your turn, grams. Like a debate. Care to respond?

Thanks buzzy I was watching my girls so I couldn't get to it. Sorry about the harsh salon comment just so tired of the media these days. I do think npr and Reuters are better than many. I am a middle of the road guy as you know I try to mediate dialogue but fall flat most of the time. We all better learn to compromise and be civil or the divide and conquer plan will leave us all unhappy.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I think the 44% of theocrat republicans should get together with the 41% of democrat socialists and beat each other over the head with their bibles and little red books.

Don't worry DC, Jesus told us Christians
to NOT ever have a Theocracy.

It's in His words plain and simple in
the Bible, he did not come to rule
the earth and he did not want a
"kingdom" established in his name.

Any Christian worth their salt knows
this to be true.

To say otherwise is pure propaganda
on the part of people who want to
incite hatred for Christianity and
by extension Christians.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: Metallicus
Since this thread seems in response to the earlier thread in regards to Democrats favoring Socialism at around a 50% rate I would like to know if you consider Socialism the religion of the left and Christianity the religion of the right? It is an interesting premise and seems to be what you are saying with this response thread.

Personally I don't want to be Christian or Socialist. I suppose that puts me somewhere in the middle.

No, as economic systems and styles of government are not a religion. Religion defined:

re·li·gion/rəˈlijən/ noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

To the religious, the idea that someone could have no such belief is incomprehensible. I see it all the time, "no belief in religion is a religion in and of itself!"

Just like how an atheist can't wrap their head around belief in God, the theist can't wrap their head around an atheist's lack of belief in a God.

It's actually a rather amusing impasse ...

Our current debt and credit system could be defined as a superhuman controlling power. Back in the Middle Ages if one of us little peasants wanted a home, you would cut down some trees and built a hovel. Now you need a mortgage, which means you need a credit history, which means you have to go into debt before you can even start living the so-called "American Dream" and live in your own home.

Debt is practically a requirement to live in our society. Without it, no nice stuff for you, or your family, or anyone you know. Is such an economy superhuman? It's reach touches every part of our lives - it has no borders, no limits, no control, no authority. It gobbles you up and never spits you out. Your debt can even continue to exist beyond your grave and be given to those you leave behind and cherish the most.

I would say it's superhuman control, yes. And there are a good number if people today who worship it.

Now imagine the economy as described in the book of Revelation. That you will need the mark to buy or sell. Imagine everyone needing a chip that had all your money and credit information on it - and a government with the ability to shut it off at any time. Superhuman control indeed.

It's just another idol, like the golden calf.

a reply to: links234

Listen, I'm no fan of republicans but you need to look up what "theocracy" means.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: infolurker
But as already mentioned, Why is this a rebuttal to Socialism?

originally posted by: infolurker
And again, how is this a rebuttal to Socialism?

It isn't. The OP says nothing about socialism. Another poster brought that up as a red herring, I presume. And it worked...

There are plenty of people who would LOVE to have their religion validated by the government, but it's not going to happen. The Constitution prohibits it. These nutballs want to blatantly violate the Constitution.

I assume it was some kind of rebuttal to this:

While You Were Sleeping: Among Democrats 49% Favorable To Socialism
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yep, what I figured. The Huckabee supporters were the overwhelming supporters of theocracy. Yet another reason I don't support that guy.

I don't support a theocracy by any means, but promoting/enabling charity, 'treating people as you wish to be treated', 'turn the other cheek', 'no love is greater than self-sacrifice' and 'honor thy parents' aren't exactly game breakers to me either.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: DBCowboy

Fun! Can you arrange that?

There is a high likelyhood the theo-pubs have more guns.

Similar poll, from last February (2015).

While a number of red states have passed statutes forbidding the implementation of Islam-based sharia law in their states, Republicans apparently have no misgivings about turning the United States into a Christian theocracy. The poll’s crosstabs reveal that support for making Christianity the official religion is strongest among Mike Huckabee (94 percent), Rick Perry (83 percent), and Ben Carson (78 percent) supporters.

Ben Carson is the preferred presidential candidate of those who want to impose Christianity on the nation with 24 percent support. Mike Huckabee and Scott Walker are tied for 2nd place at 16 percent. Scott Walker (35 percent) and Jeb Bush (22 percent) are the leading candidates among GOP voters who do not want to establish a national religion.

57% of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion

This source summariizes a Public Policy Polling study published here.

It's not "just Huckabee" supporters. Most Republicans are Dominionists whether they know it or not.

a reply to: Gryphon66

If you are a true christian, you are a dominionist. Dominion is an innate element of the Jesus movement. That's what being a king means.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

There is a high likelyhood the theo-pubs have more guns.

Why would they bring guns to a book-fight?

I have guns, but I think that bringing them would be a bit of over-kill and asshatish behavior when it's a scheduled book-fight.

a reply to: peskyhumans

Did debt create the universe and everything in it? Will our debt and credit system grant you everlasting life in after you die in heaven? Does our debt and credit system offer a way for you to absolve yourself of your sins through some form of salvation? Does the debt and credit system perform miracles beyond scientific understanding?

No, our debt and credit system does none of those things that are core tenants of religion. I know we'd like to think that other things around us are "religions" but they aren't. They may have elements that are similar to a religion, but they are not a religion.

No one's immortal soul is going to be saved from eternal damnation by a credit card company.

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I think the 44% of theocrat republicans should get together with the 41% of democrat socialists and beat each other over the head with their bibles and little red books.

Don't worry DC, Jesus told us Christians
to NOT ever have a Theocracy.

It's in His words plain and simple in
the Bible, he did not come to rule
the earth and he did not want a
"kingdom" established in his name.

Any Christian worth their salt knows
this to be true.

To say otherwise is pure propaganda
on the part of people who want to
incite hatred for Christianity and
by extension Christians.

Ah, so that's why he called himself the king of kings.

Also, revelations. Read it. Thoroughly this time.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Gryphon66

If you are a true christian, you are a dominionist. Dominion is an innate element of the Jesus movement. That's what being a king means.

Point very well taken.

"Heirs to a Kingdom of Victims?"

"You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.

Matthew 10:22 KJV

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.

if the GOP would reel in it's so-called 'tea-party' there would be no reason for concern. Actually I'm a democrat, and Christian, and the tea party frightens me tremendously.

So tea party bad, BLM good? Right?

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yep. Another bunch of pointless arguments derived from an article that is another obvious lie. There's a pattern around these parts and fact checking isn't something people are interested in.