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originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: ecapsretuo
We have seen evidence of gigantic beams cut precisely, as by a compound such as thermite.
You mean like this ........
sites.google.com...
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So why is there a man with a torch sawing a beam in half if magic thermite would do it...???
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it wasnt simply thermite that was found, but nano thermite..and you dont justgo around buying nano thermite
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Yep, good point. And how huge, what's your estimate?
With regards to this aluminum molybdenum-rich particle in the WTC dust we may be talking about at least 2623°C to melt that Mo. Which is higher than the boiling point of thermite btw.
Also, for Portland cement we would need roughly 1450°C but can find lead oxides on the surface of mineral wool in the dust as well.(Page 21), which indicates 1749°C minimum.
3.0 Other WTC Dust Characteristics: Coatings
The amount of energy introduced during the generation of the WTC Dust and the ensuing conflagration caused various components to vaporize. Vapor phase components with high boiling point and high melting point would have, as they cooled, tended to form precipitated particles or thin film deposits on available surfaces through condensation mechanisms. The results of this process would be the presence of a thin layer of deposited material on the surfaces of the dust particulate matter. Many of the materials, such as lead, cadmium, mercury and various organic compounds, vaporized and then condensed during the WTC Event.
A variety of analytical techniques were applied to characterize the surface chemistry of WTC materials. These analytical techniques included scanning electron microscopy/energy-dispersive spectroscopy (SEM/EDS), X-ray microprobe, and X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy (XPS). The SEM and microprobe techniques provided details that sparked interest in a closer look at the surface characteristics. XPS is a surface analysis technique that not only can detect most of the elements of the periodic table, but can also determine their oxidation state or binding energy. Thus XPS can provide chemical species information for elements. XPS is capable of analyzing components in the top 100 angstroms of surface. Because of the sensitivity to surface components, XPS is highly useful in the characterization of chemistry of the surface of the dust particles.
The XPS results indicate the presence of a thin contaminating film or coating associated with the surface of particles. These surface species could be a significant factor affecting the toxicity of the WTC Dust if the coatings on particles and fibers are composed of hazardous substances. The coatings vary in thickness from nanometers (monolayer) to finely dispersed sub- micron particles. The particles and coatings have been detected by low accelerating voltage back-scattered electron imaging, X-ray microprobe analysis, and high resolution XPS. For example, lead peaks from the surface of mineral wool were identified by XPS. The high-resolution, narrow-range XPS scan (Figure 25) led to the identification of two lead peaks representing lead oxide or lead sulfate. The presence of lead oxides on the surface of mineral wool indicates the exposure of high temperatures at which lead would have undergone vaporization, oxidation, and condensation on the surface of mineral wool. In addition to the trace amounts of lead, Table 2 indicates the presence of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, sodium, silicon, sulfur, chlorine and calcium on the surface of the mineral wool.
All of these elements are found in the fuels and can be expected to vaporised when the fuel is burned.
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
The temperatures to vaporize lead before it condensed on mineral wool are how high exactly?
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
let's ignore that Mo as well.
Commercial Scale Indirect Rotary Calciners for processing at temperatures of up to approximately 2,300°F (1,260°C). Pilot scale equipment is available for temperatures of excess of 2,500°F (1,370 °C).
However, it is worth noting that fly ash and partially combusted products can occur in trace concentrations in ordinary building dusts, but not in the concentrations observed in WTC Dust.
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: waypastvne
We beg to differ.
However, it is worth noting that fly ash and partially combusted products can occur in trace concentrations in ordinary building dusts, but not in the concentrations observed in WTC Dust.
Page 19
Check(mate)?
originally posted by: JuJuBee
This topic is like discussing, who killed JFK? Does it really matter, at this point? It was 14 years ago. The bandits got away. Does it matter HOW those 3 buildings fell down, when only 2 "planes" hit?
911 is "old news". LET IT GO!
We had the chance to stand up against corrupt/lying politicians, and we coward away. We even have the nerve to consider ANOTHER Bush, as our "leader", so..............
Exactly. Two countries invaded (in the conventional sense), an entire region and more torn apart, laws passed, enemies made, millions made homeless ill wounded and dead.
The warnings weren't listened to.
Still cant accept a reasonable explanation for your mysterious questions
In Figure 2.8, the particle size distribution of the same three CKDs, where, “Dust G” is from the long-wet kiln, “Dust H” is from the long-dry kiln, and “Dust S” is from the alkali by-pass kiln is shown
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Portland cement production usually doesn't exceed 1450°C, does it?
The nature of the rotary kiln, which allows flame residence times of the order of 2–5 s and reaches temperatures as high as 2200 K, also makes cement kilns a competitive alternative to commercial incinerators for organic wastes and solvents
The temperatures to vaporize lead before it condensed on mineral wool are how high exactly?
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: sg1642
Exactly. Two countries invaded (in the conventional sense), an entire region and more torn apart, laws passed, enemies made, millions made homeless ill wounded and dead.
If you look at the rest of the story, the first Gulf Was was halted based on conditions imposed upon Iraq, which it accepted. Over the years, Iraq broke a number of conditions that halted the Gulf War, yet the UN failed to take action. In addition, it was an Iraqi citizen, code named: "Curve Ball," was responsible for the WMD claim inside Iraq, not the United States. However, WMD was eventually found in Iraq by U.S. troops. Since then, the United States pulled its combat troops out of Iraq.
Had Iraq lived up to the obligations that ended the first Gulf War, there would have been no second Gulf War,
In regard to Afghanistan, the Taliban was warned to turn over Osama bin Laden or else. The Taliban refused and the rest is history. Had they turned over OBL, there would not have been a war in Afghanistan. Since then, the United States removed the majority of combat troops out of Afghanistan.
The warnings weren't listened to.
And, those pre-9/11 warnings, which were issued from a number of countries around the world, were pointing their fingers Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, not at the United States.
The claim that 9/11 was a false flag operation is false.