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the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit ruled that the Little Sisters must comply with the government’s HHS mandate. This mandate forces religious ministries to violate their faith [by providing coverage for contraceptive services]* or pay massive IRS penalties.
As Little Sisters of the Poor, we simply cannot choose between our care for the elderly poor and our faith. And we should not have to make that choice, because it violates our nation’s commitment to ensuring that people from diverse faiths can freely follow God’s calling in their lives. For over 175 years, we have served the neediest in society with love and dignity. All we ask is to be able to continue our religious vocation free from government intrusion.
Under the contraception mandate, nonprofit religious groups such as Little Sisters of the Poor are permitted to opt out of the requirement if they report their concerns to their insurance companies or the federal government. But that group and others have objected to any extra steps to obtain the exemption. Instead, they are seeking the same treatment as houses of worship, which are not required to fill out additional paperwork in order to avoid fines under the law.
thehill.com...
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The court ruled that because the Little Sisters of the Poor had the option of signing a form that would transfer covering contraceptives to a third-party, they failed to show that the ObamaCare mandate placed a burden on their right to exercise freedom of religion.
originally posted by: dawnstar
are you sure that they have to sign anything that says they are transferring the coverage over to a third party, or is it that they just have to say that they have a religious concern about providing the coverage and maybe provide a few details about their company and it's unsurance plan?
I mean sorry, what's next, I can't give this person their paycheck because I know that some of the money that I am giving them will be used for birth control?
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: beezzer
Oh, boo-hoo! Poor persecuted nuns! They can't pick up a pen and sign a stinking form???
originally posted by: beezzer
Anyways, they're just a stupid religion. It's not like they are a protected class or anything.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: beezzer
Anyways, they're just a stupid religion. It's not like they are a protected class or anything.
But they ARE a protected class. You know that. They even get "special rights", BECAUSE they're a religion! What are you crying about this time?
a reply to: beezzer
They've only been doing this for 175 years.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: beezzer
maybe a better way of looking at it is they are practicing their faith when they sign the form, ya know, kind of like umm... sorry we aren't gonna do this, we don't believe it is right, find another way to get birth control to my employees if you want them to have it?
originally posted by: beezzer
They should just obey the government and pracise their faith according to government rules.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: beezzer
They should just obey the government and pracise their faith according to government rules.
Absolutely! They should practice their faith according to the LAW!
You would prefer a theocracy? Perhaps Sharia Law, where religion drives the law? Your religion approves of murdering infidels? Sure, go ahead! The government can't get involved! Do whatever you want and call it "religion"!
Boy, beez... Your "victim" arguments get worse and worse...
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: beezzer
you do realize that it is the PEOPLE of the united states that the constitution protects right, not the established churches, not the religious business owners...
but the PEOPLE!!!
so well, unless there is a way for the employees of that gov't to refuse the coverage, the ammendment isn't being protected anyways.... just the right of the businesses and religious organizations to manipulate their employees into living under their belief system. which, by the way, is contrary to that ammendment also since each person should be free to form their own belief system