Gay Marriage and the NWO Agenda

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

If anyone doesn't agree with my opinion then tough, I won't waste time arguing about it or explaining my opinion.

HOW SHOCKING

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: AuranVector

TPTB have already gone a long way in the last 60 years to destroy sexual morality, marriage, and families anyway. This new “Gay civil right” will accelerate the process even more.

They did no such thing. You and I did that. People need to take personal responsibility and quit blaming some loony conspiracy.

The hated Fundamentalist Christians will be destroyed or forced to go underground, along with their “outmoded” traditional values.

Nonsense. Quit playing the victim, cry-baby card and move on with your life. I respect your right to believe in your faith and I respect their right to marry whomever they choose.

Just because two dudes can enter a legal contract does not mean we are going to start burning Christians at the stake.

Get a grip.

The Bilderbergers' agenda is not a "looney" conspiracy. They're very real.

I'm NOT Christian, but it's clear to me that Christians are under attack in this country. It will get a lot worse now,

The "Gay Gestapo" have now been further empowered.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Few people appreciate where the so-called "New World Order" is leading us: Nations, families, genders, physical bodies and eventually your own personal mind is due to be of no great importance. The eventual goal.

That would be difficult to explain and even more more difficult to understand and accept in a few short sentences. The best explanation I can offer on short notice is to review or read for the first time Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End. Most people won't get it however. To far out from what they know about consensus reality and the unknown that isn't reality.

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
There is some sort of agenda going on, it's obvious to anyone with a decent IQ.

You need only have an opinion of something that isn't rubber stamped by liberal PC and you can guarantee some left wing idiot will be on your case faster than you can blink using some emotional diatribe as a stance against you having an opinion.

I see it all the time, on ATS, and other places, it is an agenda.

The agenda is to make people thoughtless, opinionless and unquestioning, everything a shade of beige, no race, no ethnicity, no sexuality, no gender, they want you to think all of things as ''social constructs'' as it means whatever is thrown at society ''acceptance'' is more likely.

For example they don't want you to criticise a group even if they are terrorists because it means differentiation.

I couldn't care less if people of the same sex love each other as long as it is not immoral or unethical, and the state allows marrying I don't deny the right to, however churches should not unless they choose to, as part of freedom of belief, which exists.

If anyone doesn't agree with my opinion then tough, I won't waste time arguing about it or explaining my opinion. The personal /emotional stance typical of agenda fools is only a means of distracting from the bigger picture so don't even try that.

Excellent. You're on target about what's happening.

I have nothing against Gays (as I stated in my OP) and I'm not Christian. But this new law will be used by the Left (definitely NWO) to increase their attacks on Christians.

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: Flesh699

They aren't getting married because they can have multiple uncommitted unemotional sexual relationships, like animals do.

Men are pre programmed to 'sow their seed', marriage was always societies way of social order and ensuring family units and morality. Now that women are portrayed as sexual objects by MSM, and men, especially the younger sort are considered heroes for the amount of girls they can 'do', it isn't any wonder that they aren't getting married like they used to.

I think there are alot of reasons people are not marrying now. Cost, the hassle factor and the utter drama if it all goes pair shaped. A lot of people just don't see the point in having a piece of paper just to say you love each other. They probably see the huge divorce rate and don't want to risk thier relationship falling apart by getting married.

a reply to: AuranVector

The Bildeberg group does exist, but they are not concerned with social issues. They focus on war, oil, business, foreign policy and money. The rest IS loony conspiracy. There is no evidence to support such a claim.

I'm NOT Christian, but it's clear to me that Christians are under attack in this country.

No they are not. People are not attacking Christians for what they believe. People just want them to stop trying to force their "morality" on to us based on what they believe. Perhaps if they would shut up and just live beside the rest of us without telling us what we are doing is wrong, we wouldn't have to put them in their place.

The "Gay Gestapo" have now been further empowered.

Yup, the Rainbow SS will be goose-stepping in to your home in just a few minutes to rearrange your furniture take your spare change.

Be afraid!

originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth

Excellent. You're on target about what's happening.

I have nothing against Gays (as I stated in my OP) and I'm not Christian. But this new law will be used by the Left (definitely NWO) to increase their attacks on Christians.

Christians are not being attacked. They are simply be put in check and made to see that they will not use thier religion to deny people at civil rights. Especially being told to know thier place. Stopping christians from being bigoted or hateful towards people because of what thier book says is not attacking christians, it is protecting people from being unfairly treated.

originally posted by: Megatronus

originally posted by: AuranVector


Fake gay marriages? This has been fought for tooth and nail by the gay community and while I'm sure not every marriage will work out to say people will questions up for fake marriages is ridiculous. The amount of sham marriages that heterosexuals enter into is astounding yet no benefits have been removed from them.

It seems I did not make myself clear. By FAKE Gay marriages, I'm talking about people pretending to be Gay so they can marry and get marriage benefits.

a reply to: AuranVector

But this new law will be used by the Left (definitely NWO) to increase their attacks on Christians.

I am a leftist. Nay, a socialist, and if the gay rights community tries to take this ruling and go after the Christians, I will be by your side trying to stop them.

Many of us on the left, and right, believe in freedom. Freedom to not only allow gays to marry, but for people to practice their religion.

originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: Megatronus

originally posted by: AuranVector


Fake gay marriages? This has been fought for tooth and nail by the gay community and while I'm sure not every marriage will work out to say people will questions up for fake marriages is ridiculous. The amount of sham marriages that heterosexuals enter into is astounding yet no benefits have been removed from them.

It seems I did not make myself clear. By FAKE Gay marriages, I'm talking about people pretending to be Gay so they can marry and get marriage benefits.

Why would they do that? The could just as easy marry someone of the opposite sex for the exact same reason and do the exact same thing.

originally posted by: MrSpad
The Dutch have had gay marriage since 2001, then Spain, Canada, and South Africa all have had it for over a decade. None of them nor the nations since then have had any of the problems you suggest. And lets face it the idea that the NWO would waste its time with gay marriage with some sort of hope that some fake marriages might happen and then marriage just goes away? And the NWO takes over. This makes about as much sense as it did when people claimed interracial marriage would destroy marriage.

The Bilderbergers have been very much involved in shaping our opinions on everything. They control academia and the mainstream media. They have an agenda whether most people can see it or not. It's to destroy traditional values. That's why they especially hate Fundamentalist Christians (those people who "cling to their guns and religion").

originally posted by: Flesh699
a reply to: AuranVector

Marriage is meaningless. Who was the schmoe that thought it was a good idea to create a business contract to symbolize your love for someone else?

I'm a conspiracy nut just like the next guy, but I think people might actually be waking up to how stupid and ridiculous the idea of marriage is, do we really need a piece of paper to prove we love another?

Well, yes.... I guess we do if my TV screaming at me about the "progressiveness" of gay marriage has anything to say about it, and it does, at least for the last twenty-four hours.

I think it's really just a case of dumb people not realizing they're dumb.

Marriage, aside from the spiritual and religious aspects, was a legal contract to protect the children, the issue from the marriage. It helped protect the rights of the woman & the children.

In same sex marriage, obviously the couple cannot produce children. They have to get a sperm donor in the case of two women or a surrogate to carry the fetus, in the case of two men.

Which also brings up another NWO agenda -- depopulation. A good way to reduce breeding is to encourage marriage between people who cannot breed -- naturally.

a reply to: Megatronus

Excellent point which shoots down the fake gay marriage thing.

a reply to: Aliensun

I've probably been studying the Globalist Agenda since before you were born, so it's ok, I do get it.

I also get when people confuse progress, with the 'evil liberal agenda'.

And Let's be honest, most of those members of the CFR, Bilderberg group etc, would all be card carrying conservatives.

Self confessed at that.

~Tenth

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Flesh699

Mqybe get rid of the benefits of getting married and less will get married.

That was one of my points in my OP.

Marriage will be made meaningless and outmoded. So "Brave New World."

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: Flesh699

Originally it was probably a means of faithfulness to each other and political allegiances between tribes and families, it is human nature to form strong partnerships and alliances.

A formal commitment to a relationship is a good thing IMO, for individuals and societies, the lack of marriages and strong commitments has caused more single people living independently which has caused a lot of emotional and financial stress, such as instead of sharing costs and more demand for housing etc. in addition to moral decline especially from those of developing minds such as teenagers, binge drinking, drugs, promiscuity etc.

Exactly, you got it. This is about targeting the young in the long term. The young who grow up without a strong, loving family are more likely to be inducted into cults, mind control, and manipulation. Just what the NWO wants in a slave.

a reply to: AuranVector

Exactly, you got it. This is about targeting the young in the long term. The young who grow up without a strong, loving family are more likely to be inducted into cults, mind control, and manipulation. Just what the NWO wants in a slave.

So, my family, is not loving and strong?

I've raised ( am still raising) 4 children in a same sex couple. My eldest daughter will be starting Medical School next year, my oldest son will be going to the one of the best engineering schools in the country starting in September. The two others are both honor students. None of them are gay, two of them are Christian and are all VERY active in our community.

Really?

Do you hear yourself?

~Tenth

originally posted by: boozo
a reply to: AuranVector

The Agenda?

Business. It's all about business.

Would you like to expand on that?

originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: MrSpad
The Dutch have had gay marriage since 2001, then Spain, Canada, and South Africa all have had it for over a decade. None of them nor the nations since then have had any of the problems you suggest. And lets face it the idea that the NWO would waste its time with gay marriage with some sort of hope that some fake marriages might happen and then marriage just goes away? And the NWO takes over. This makes about as much sense as it did when people claimed interracial marriage would destroy marriage.

The Bilderbergers have been very much involved in shaping our opinions on everything. They control academia and the mainstream media. They have an agenda whether most people can see it or not. It's to destroy traditional values. That's why they especially hate Fundamentalist Christians (those people who "cling to their guns and religion").

What are traditional values? You mean values we made up during the Cold War? Because that is when most of that nonsense started. Adding Under God to things and such. Fundamentalist Christians have more in common with ISIS than they do any traditional value the US was founded on. If the Bilderbergers are trying to stop the US from becoming a fundamentalist state like Saudi Arabia or ISIS then the more power to them.

originally posted by: Flesh699

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Flesh699

Mqybe get rid of the benefits of getting married and less will get married.

The younger generation isn't getting married, and no one seems to know why. I imagine the advent of the internet has risen the younger generation's IQ a bit, I hope.

My grandmother never got married to her husband until she fell ill from some crazy brain thing doctors couldn't figure out. She had plenty cash. Her husband basically persuaded her to get married a year before her death. That pile of money she saved all those years fell to zero within five months.

I will agree though that there seems to be an agenda currently against Christians. Just like it seems six months ago ISIS was called ISIS on the news, now all you hear is Islamic State..... like it's official or something, like they won.

Words are powerful and minds are weak I guess. Who knows what's really going on anymore.

The NWO indoctrination is working. Marriage is on the wane. That's exactly what they want.

I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing the "War on Christians." (And I'm not Christian.)