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originally posted by: victor7
So what they have been doing for more than a year now? other than getting the rear ends kicked there has been little positive from Ukes side.
Full scale Russian invasion if happens will have the Ruskies stomping the Kiev downtown in two weeks.
originally posted by: SubTruth
originally posted by: victor7
So what they have been doing for more than a year now? other than getting the rear ends kicked there has been little positive from Ukes side.
Full scale Russian invasion if happens will have the Ruskies stomping the Kiev downtown in two weeks.
You are right and you are wrong.......Russia is a 2nd tier military and Ukraine is 3rd tier so you are right they could walk in and take the place in weeks or a month. That being said the economic/social cost Russia would pay would lead to revolutions taking place in a year or two.
Revolutions happen when the cost of food reaches a percentage of disposable income for the average citizen. The figure is right around 40% of disposable income. Russian citizens are at 30-35% right now and it is still climbing year after year. Eventually the average Russian will not be able to afford food anymore and when this happens revolution will come.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: MALBOSIA
Even Russia's staunchest allies like Belarus are starting to distance themselves from Russia. That's not the doing of the West. It's because Putin's current course is bringing back memories of living under Soviet rule and all the atrocities that went along with that. The way these countries see it they would rather seek protection from a corrupt West than a corrupt Russia that also killed millions of their citizens. That's why so many other former SSRs have rushed to join NATO.
originally posted by: Echtelion
originally posted by: SubTruth
originally posted by: victor7
So what they have been doing for more than a year now? other than getting the rear ends kicked there has been little positive from Ukes side.
Full scale Russian invasion if happens will have the Ruskies stomping the Kiev downtown in two weeks.
You are right and you are wrong.......Russia is a 2nd tier military and Ukraine is 3rd tier so you are right they could walk in and take the place in weeks or a month. That being said the economic/social cost Russia would pay would lead to revolutions taking place in a year or two.
Revolutions happen when the cost of food reaches a percentage of disposable income for the average citizen. The figure is right around 40% of disposable income. Russian citizens are at 30-35% right now and it is still climbing year after year. Eventually the average Russian will not be able to afford food anymore and when this happens revolution will come.
40% of Americans are working under minimum wage these days, and that's the people who have a job. Industrial cities have been shutting down for years, people have been sent to the street massively, and now there's an estimate of 2 civilians getting shot by a paramilitary police everyday. Still no revolution in the US, so why would there be in Russia, with an administration that's several times more popular than Obama's?
So it appears you don't seem to know the underneath dynamics behind a revolution.
originally posted by: Greathouse
^^^^^^^^^^^^Never trust a source called the red pill .here is a quote from the above source.............
Oligarch Poroshenko’s personal wealth jumps to $1.3 billion. 80% of Ukrainians now live below poverty line
Complete and total lie .
In 2013 Poroshenko's wealth was 1.6 Billion . Wiki now has him listed at under 800 million .
source
Wiki source
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: MALBOSIA
Even Russia's staunchest allies like Belarus are starting to distance themselves from Russia. That's not the doing of the West. It's because Putin's current course is bringing back memories of living under Soviet rule and all the atrocities that went along with that. The way these countries see it they would rather seek protection from a corrupt West than a corrupt Russia that also killed millions of their citizens. That's why so many other former SSRs have rushed to join NATO.
Its because of the threats from NATO, about being bombed to hell like everyone else over the last 100 years.
I cannot wait for everything to go badly for NATO, and the players start infighting.....
Setup for a fall, a BIG FALL.
originally posted by: Legman
originally posted by: Echtelion
originally posted by: SubTruth
originally posted by: victor7
So what they have been doing for more than a year now? other than getting the rear ends kicked there has been little positive from Ukes side.
Full scale Russian invasion if happens will have the Ruskies stomping the Kiev downtown in two weeks.
You are right and you are wrong.......Russia is a 2nd tier military and Ukraine is 3rd tier so you are right they could walk in and take the place in weeks or a month. That being said the economic/social cost Russia would pay would lead to revolutions taking place in a year or two.
Revolutions happen when the cost of food reaches a percentage of disposable income for the average citizen. The figure is right around 40% of disposable income. Russian citizens are at 30-35% right now and it is still climbing year after year. Eventually the average Russian will not be able to afford food anymore and when this happens revolution will come.
40% of Americans are working under minimum wage these days, and that's the people who have a job. Industrial cities have been shutting down for years, people have been sent to the street massively, and now there's an estimate of 2 civilians getting shot by a paramilitary police everyday. Still no revolution in the US, so why would there be in Russia, with an administration that's several times more popular than Obama's?
So it appears you don't seem to know the underneath dynamics behind a revolution.
You just actually made his point for him... The U.S. Isn't revolting because bread isn't twenty dollars and a gallon of milk isn't fifteen bucks.
Historically hunger causes revolution in every corner of the world the vast majority of the time.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Rosinitiate
As I've stated in many different threads... The amount of money given to Ukraine by the USA is no different than economic deals with several countries...
Why was this one a financed over throw and none of the others were?
Eta what was so special about the Ukraine?
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Perhaps, but I've always seen revolution as a ruse, misdirection, something akin to bamboozlement. With hunger of course being the "premiss" if you will for said bambozzlement. The French Revolution is a good example of that.
originally posted by: kitzik
a reply to: Xcalibur254
Umm, I think Putin is going to disclose his personal wealth in the joint meeting with Pope Francis coming 10-th of June.
They will also talk about the aliens and inevitable Russian invasion of Ukraine
Without sarcasm, I really struggling to understand how the statement of Poroshenko making this event more or less probable.
If Russia decides that it is going to invade Ukraine, it won't be because Poroshenko said so.