Im going to post my original reply to you, as its an honest reaction i was having. Hopefully my responses can be used by you as a way to monitor your
communication skills and the effect that you may or may not be having on others. I really hope so.
“These experiences are so bad that even in the case of shock therapy these memories are only temporarily affected. Long term therapy works towards
helping the patient develop new coping mechanisms that over time can be effective as a result of developing neural connections that allow the patient
to overcome the stressor that resulted in their symptoms and diagnosis.” I can see where youre coming from by that statement. Im assuming you see
people in terms of a machine that needs to be manipulated. Your stance is not very heart felt in my opinion. Perhaps, id like to suggest, cultivating
empathy to an equal degree may also help your patients. I for one totally back practitioners who empathise. Every entrenched trauma can eventually be
unwound by nothing more than counselling – which is words. I should know as I have a history in the military, and those i choose to associate with.
Direct experience! ... as for developing neural connections, youre describing a mechanical process which is an effect of the former.
“One cannot apply NLP ... as a treatment for say for example a rape victim etc” This shows your lack of understanding. Id suggest you research NLP
more, or even attend a session for direct experience. Im not one for being evangelistic about NLP, i dont care for it much. Im just going to maintain
my opinion that it is effective even for the things you are suggesting as examples. Your opinion is based on assumptions, nothing more, because you
haven’t exposed yourself to it to get direct experience. All that is left for us is strong opinions in opposition. So lets agree to disagree soon
please.
“NLP is often touted as akin to using words like a key board to a computer and that is not realistic is terms of changing someone's mind.” thats
also an assumption of yours. Not a fact.
“ ... Trane Air Conditioning commercial ... apparently that doing so gets folks to relate those two words when considering buying a new Central
A/C.” ... and ... . “Consumer Psychologists are paid to make a products look good, that is correct” Ok so it appears you agree with my earlier
hypothesis then. That the media is rife with NLP – meaning manipulating the masses.
“But consider how the fast food industry has declined as consumers want healthier foods?” ?, apps, monitoring, heal foods, gyms all products that
take up the slack. All commercial enterprise. Thats like saying i bought ice cream yesterday, and a CD today. Both use money, which is linked to
commerce. And whos shaping those trends? What gives people the ideas to talk and think about? What informs emotional relationships?
“In terms of day to day problems that are common there are essentially inherent to the brain way to fix itself and a good example of that is the
death ... As long as the person in question has not had other issues in the past the "five stages of grieving" apply and they will recover.” I find
this statement unsettling... you are saying brain and not person. Im owning my personal reaction to what youve just said, its just tweaked me a bit.
This is because everyone in my opinion is an individual, and as such theres no guide or stages to the grieving process. Everyone experiences it in
their own way. Youve stated as much above that people are individuals. Its false to try and “get” someone to heal themselves, otherwise this turns
into abuse. With grieving, i feel youre not supposed to ever get over it!, ... but there is a way to just accept situations as they are and make it
part of your lifes story with less emotional intensity. Eventually the triggers of remembering the loss or trauma will wain. Its just a daily process
of acceptance. If someone can remember the good times then thats good also, helping people to focus on this aspect helps.
The job of a psychologist to me is to support whatever process the patient wants, or identifies for themselves, even offer alternatives. Trying to
apply an “all come all serve” attitude to someone grieving sounds too dominating to me. As if the psychologist is positioning themselves as the
authority figure, instead of a guide for that person. I assume thats the different between a trained psychologist and a spiritual healer.
Something to ponder ... Id suggest looking at grieving as a way to habitually harm oneself with emotional intensity, which is born out of unresolved
frustration. Habits have a tendency to become obsessions, which then dominate our every thought. Thoughts activate our emotional reasponses and so the
cycle continues, perpetuates and grows. I recon grieving is a habit because people are deriving some form of emotional satisfaction from it. Its ok to
have this for a while, just not get “alcoholic” about it. Like any drug... distraction, keeping oneself busy, physical exercise, or being social
helps. Eventually the "habit" of grieving wains.
“Convincing someone to do something despite what they believe is very difficult.” ? Scratching head again. Convince? Really? Dont you mean suggest
and offer guidance? ... otherwise youre saying your opinion is more correct than theirs? I find this stance unsettling. If you care to explain further
perhaps other readers may want to understand.
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“No one is going to be able to use this to make something dangerous” Youve formed and assumption there, how do you know for sure? What evidence do
you have to back up your statement please. Or is it just your opinion again?
“it does give an opportunity for those so inclined to explore their own potential. “ yes i can see that, i agree
“Starvation, pollution, diseases that today are incurable and the lack of recourses on Earth are examples.” This is supposition until further
evidence is provided. I believe theres plenty to go around, food mountains for example... making it law that supermarkets have a section of out of
date food to give away for free to low incomes. I suggest allocation of resources is the key, and also capping maximum wage at say 40million would do
the trick. Then any more individual profits should be put to good use for the benefit of society by law. Share basically.
Heres a fact: the whole of the NHS hospitals in the uk can be sorted out completely, if we spent 2 days worth of money that we are giving to the
military! ... its our lack of sharing as a species thats the problem. As for diseases, perhaps its natures way of killing us off. And why would that
be a bad thing? Because its not our preference?
... applying what you said to something real. I would find it extremely distressing to witness a friend going through end of life preparation because
of cancer. And would then wish that technology got involved. I would accept it at that point obviously. But mucking with nature in a way as to splice
a lamb with dog together simply because it helps improves the meat is NOT they way to go! Or corn with frog dna, that will eventually get into the
countryside with cross pollination. Nanotechnology used to create synthic life forms – golems with no soul essence. Things like this are immoral and
lack integrity. Knowing you can is one thing, to keep doing it is another.
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