Vandals Destroy Dam, 49 Million Gallons Into Bay

a reply to: proteus33

I can see vandals doing this, more so than a bottler (to what benefit?). But if it were someone else, I'd look where the money would be.... dam construction sub-contractors tired of waiting for work/paycheck, wanting to get something started. Inflatable dam would be a stop gap; something temporary to hold back some water, as the main one is needing tear down/construction. It can't hold water in its condition, this from what I've gleaned.

50 million gallons? These guys should be put in jail, and denied water until their daily average water usage makes up for the total.

Or charge them what Nestle would charge for that amount of water. Given $2.50 for a 500 ml bottle ........

What's the population of the area serviced by that dam? Maybe they should be charged with reckless endangerment for every person affected by the loss of the water.

we have plenty of water in NY you're welcome to some of ours. That is if Nestle doesn't suck it all out of our lakes and float it over to China where they have flaming rivers. I could probably fill my jeep with their water and it would run.

The biggest crime here is the fact that in 30 years they couldn't get enough money together for a concrete dam to replace a temporary inflatable rubber one.
Surprised it took 30 years for some idiot to put a knife in it to be honest. ?

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
The biggest crime here is the fact that in 30 years they couldn't get enough money together for a concrete dam to replace a temporary inflatable rubber one.

Everybody complains about California's priorities. They've always managed a bailout.

This draught keeps up ... there's no rabbit for them to pull out of a hat. Mother Nature rules and those people are gonna have to move if they want to keep on living. Never have figured out why people choose to live in a desert.

As of this morning we have two more inches of water in our basement.

Anyone in Cali want it?

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: Snarl
who would benefit from this loss

Maybe someone with an insurance policy?
Maybe the Kali treasury?

Good question.

As for the viability of the dam ... I guess it worked pretty well for several decades. Can't really fault the engineers who designed it.

I hope they find the asshats who did this, 'cause I've got a question for them: "Why?"

abc7news.com...

"Investigators measured what appears to be a five-foot long slice in the rubberized material. As the inflated dam collapsed, millions of gallons of fresh water drained to San Francisco bay, which is a loss to 81,000 residential and business customers of Alameda County Water District."

" the 50 million gallons that were lost is one-half of one percent of its supply. "

Going by the graffiti around the area, it's going to be teenagers.

a reply to: stormcell

Some mighty dumb teenagers at that. Imagine in a perfect world, if it would have burst on them at the first slice and drown their stupid asses. That would be poetic justice, but then some liberals would have sued the state for it not being stupid proof.

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: ForestDweller
Dam!

Yeah!! The damned thing was 44 years old.

I still wonder how they confirmed it was an act of 'vandalism'.

Good news: They were planning on replacing it near-term ... and apparently the materials are on-hand to get it replaced PDQ.

Probably it was slashed and cut in multiple places. A single cut could be patched.

Though, they have had 44 years to replace something as fragile and delicate as an inflatable rubber dam with concrete. Or they could have just filled the thing with concrete.

But we must always remember that the Proposition 13 (taxes are bad) madness started in California too. We've been suffering and fighting back since the early 1970s.

Dams are often funded with Federal funds - and that source of funds for much needed capital improvements across the 50 states has been diverted into War and private gain.

True conservation requires investment and all the conservates of today know is how to liquidate assests to benefit a few very wealthy and powerful private sectors. Infrastructure building and maintenance largely goes to smaller businesses and can't be outsoursed (oh wait - we can have guest worker programs like they do in the middle east - where they are acutally indentured to an owner)

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: yuppa
California dont really have a water crisis. IF they decided to stop protecting that stupid "smelt" fish that woudnt effect the environment if it went extinct.

yeah, that's it, you figured it out...millions of acre feet in dam storage, all used to keep the smelt alive...

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they lose more smelt in the yearly counting process.. and guess what is the main fish that eats the smelt...a fish that is not even native to calif... (salmon eat a little of the smelt)

a reply to: Snarl

My guess is some idiot kids slashed or shot holes in the dam, or it just broke and they want insurance money to replace, and don't want to be at fault. I live near an inflatable damn on the Susquahana River, and it wouldn't be hard, but as far as I know, everything inflatable will eventually deflate. BTW I am an avid car enthusiast and BMX biker. Rubber always gets holes in it, no matter what you do to prevent it.

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: Snarl
who would benefit from this loss

Maybe someone with an insurance policy?
Maybe the Kali treasury?

Good question.

As for the viability of the dam ... I guess it worked pretty well for several decades. Can't really fault the engineers who designed it.

I hope they find the asshats who did this, 'cause I've got a question for them: "Why?"

abc7news.com...

"Investigators measured what appears to be a five-foot long slice in the rubberized material. As the inflated dam collapsed, millions of gallons of fresh water drained to San Francisco bay, which is a loss to 81,000 residential and business customers of Alameda County Water District."

" the 50 million gallons that were lost is one-half of one percent of its supply. "

Going by the graffiti around the area, it's going to be teenagers.

5' slice? Lets put common sense to this. A 5" slice, would turn into a 5' slice after it was said and done. Who is to say vandals did it!? Dry rot, just too much pressure, a defect, wear and tear, a boat, seriously anything could have caused this to happen. Pointing fingers just makes me think they want it replaced without loosing their jobs. (Whoever was in charge of this dam)

My first thought was a group like Deep Green Resistance or ELF, if that's still around. They believe 'guerrilla warfare' is justified. These are people who think even farming should be abolished. I saw a presentation a couple of years ago that was scary, talking of destroying property, but I figured the alphabet agencies were on it.

if there is no water drink vodka. artificial shortage of vodka in the Soviet Union 1989: youtu.be... , 2 bottles per person per month made animal from builders of socialism, although we have always been red blood cattle for blue blood and biologically inferior form of life . water goes everywhere, I too had to deepen the well went 5 meters

Look closely at photo of dam ...
notice the flock of vandal trained feckless ISIS teenage seagulls '
complete with sharpened claws , planning an attack ?

beware the pointy birds , never miss ya water tillya dry

www.usbr.gov...

Might be cheaper to build another nuclear power plant.

My wife and I just spent the weekend in downtown Sacramento...we toured the Capitol (we've both been before) and walked around...what kills me about the forced water restrictions and the threat of fines is that I know the government is doing little on their end. Despite the fact that they could have built more reservoirs to save water years ago, whilst walking around downtown my wife and I saw several government buildings with sprinklers spraying onto the sidewalks and street, with one broken sprinkler spewing water into the street. Down near K street decorative planter/flower beds in the side street were being watered at 3pm in the afternoon on a Sunday with water spraying onto the street. All those things if done on your own lawn at home could land you a fine of $500 to $1000 if caught. We are only allowed to water our lawns 2 days a week for a short time at night only with no runoff, and Sacramento only allows watering once a week!

a reply to: Snarl

What kind of person does things like this !

Sheesh

Who would wager that this manipulation to the West coast's water comes in light of Germany turning water into wine? Ummm, I mean "fuel".😉