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originally posted by: pthena
Once upon a time I was called for jury duty. The case involved the non completion of a building contract. The Assistant DA was attempting a novel approach by prosecuting a civil case in criminal court with a charge of felony theft.
I was asked the question: "If there was a law on the books that stated that wearing green socks on Tuesday constituted theft would you be able to vote guilty in the case of some one found to be wearing green socks on a Tuesday?"
My answer was, "I wouldn't want anything to do with a case like that."
"Then you are dismissed from jury duty", was the decision of the assistant DA.
On my way out, I could be heard saying, "This is an inappropriate use of the courts. Laws may change, whereas a felony conviction sticks to a person for life."
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Having spent some time reviewing my faulty memory, I would have to say that a more accurate account would be that the question was asked by the ADA to all the potential jurors at the same time, such as:
"Would any of you have a problem [ insert afore mentioned green sock scenario here]" and I was the only one to raise my hand and voice my wish to not be associated with such a thing. Also, it was actually the defense attorney who asked the judge to have me dismissed.
Based upon the demeanor of the parties: ADA, Defendant, Defense Attorney, and Judge, I got the distinct impression that the outcome of the trial was already prearranged in order to get a precedent into the public record with the added weight of a jury's endorsement. So yes, I believe that it would be accurate to describe the process as "looking for children of the bondswoman" to rubber stamp, in a way that would seem to be free decision, something whose outcome was prearranged.
or if it would be the ‘every photo is real’ UFO believer that would be firmly in the defiance’s corner.
Justice or just wrong?
You be the jury.
Except as mentioned the outcome was not determined by the jury but predetermined by the jury selection.
originally posted by: Wifibrains
Here is a quote from another member from here... www.abovetopsecret.com... regarding a jury service experience.
originally posted by: pthena
Once upon a time I was called for jury duty. The case involved the non completion of a building contract. The Assistant DA was attempting a novel approach by prosecuting a civil case in criminal court with a charge of felony theft.
I was asked the question: "If there was a law on the books that stated that wearing green socks on Tuesday constituted theft would you be able to vote guilty in the case of some one found to be wearing green socks on a Tuesday?"
My answer was, "I wouldn't want anything to do with a case like that."
"Then you are dismissed from jury duty", was the decision of the assistant DA.
On my way out, I could be heard saying, "This is an inappropriate use of the courts. Laws may change, whereas a felony conviction sticks to a person for life."
____________
Having spent some time reviewing my faulty memory, I would have to say that a more accurate account would be that the question was asked by the ADA to all the potential jurors at the same time, such as:
"Would any of you have a problem [ insert afore mentioned green sock scenario here]" and I was the only one to raise my hand and voice my wish to not be associated with such a thing. Also, it was actually the defense attorney who asked the judge to have me dismissed.
Based upon the demeanor of the parties: ADA, Defendant, Defense Attorney, and Judge, I got the distinct impression that the outcome of the trial was already prearranged in order to get a precedent into the public record with the added weight of a jury's endorsement. So yes, I believe that it would be accurate to describe the process as "looking for children of the bondswoman" to rubber stamp, in a way that would seem to be free decision, something whose outcome was prearranged.
Justice or just wrong?
You be the jury.
originally posted by: TheElectricPriest
The stat that really got me, however, was that 95% of all prosecutions are successful, with 90% of those never going to trial.
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Pinke
My personal experience with jury duty in the US left me with much less confidence in our system than I had previous to this experience.
originally posted by: TheElectricPriest
a reply to: Pinke
Having been unfortunately involved in this legal system on the "meat in the grinder" side, this plea business is evil. They force you to plea.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Pinke
or if it would be the ‘every photo is real’ UFO believer that would be firmly in the defiance’s corner.
Moon pie believers aren't usually selected for jury duty.
originally posted by: VoidHawk
Very well written Pinke
I suspect you'll find this vid very interesting!
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Pinke
I've heard this lament before, but I'm not buying into the whole "CSI Effect" nonsense. It's just one more way to blame the victims and bully the people.
Bottom line is simple: If the prosecution can't prove their case, they can't prove their case. Period. Given the virtually unlimited resources at their disposal -- including obviously iffy forensic technology -- and compared to the meager resources of most defendants, they have no excuses.