10 yr old Baptist boy remembers past life as actor and agent in 1920's

Excellent Post OP! It's amazing stuff and I've only dabbled in learning more about it. Been dying to get a regression done but don't know any well respected specialists in my area. I have had strange 'feelings' when travelling occasionally. One city I felt completely comfortable in yet it was my first time being there and the language was different. I had a strangely deep love for that city.

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: Anyafaj

Sorry, I didn't realize it was a religious concept. Consider it more out of ignorance and not contempt.

I didn't mean it like that. I don't think it's ignorance or contempt. I think there's just been a concerted effort to take religion down to the same level as "ghost stuff", and they're programming us to think that way--to make it an automatic association.

But back to the OP, and specifically "the veil". It's a mystery why we can't remember anything before our ego is developed. Our minds exist in a state of "I-lessness" which, I believe, is conducive to higher states of consciousness (ego-nullification is one of the main effects/aims of the meditation practices of the aforementioned religions). But as the ego grows stronger and stronger, this "door" is slowly closed. The veil is dropped when the sense of "I" becomes so overwhelmingly powerful that it nearly shuts the door entirely (and in many cases it does completely).

Then we spend the rest of our lives trying to open the door that we shut on ourselves (or was shut on us, one could argue). Unlearning what we've learned...

I didn't mean it in any "ill-will" way.

I remember hearing about the veil in regarding another paranormal situation but was trying to recall the usage of the word.

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
a reply to: Grimpachi

Or maybe we only hear about the famous ones because they can be researched when the kid starts claiming things?

Yes, it could be that there are other cases that we don't hear about just because it isn't a famous person who can be easily verified to have existed, so the parents just dismiss it as nonsense. How many people actually take their childs utterings seriously? Especially after knowing how much crap they filled their childs head with by using the TV as a babysitter...

Or the parents encourage it, and the psych community discourage it as 'fantasy'. My daughter used to talk to ghosts, angels, and her brothers and sisters souls, (they were miscarried), until a psychiatrist told her make-believe was inappropriate.

a reply to: IslandOfMisfitToys

Meaning......I can't find any information beyond my grandparents grandparents. And I only know a little about them from spoken word by my grandparents themselves. Is it really that easy to find information on the infinite amount of people whom have lived?

(I will answer your edit with another post or my previous post will lose context.)

While it may be difficult to find information on the further back one goes it is not improbable to do so.

Just because something like researching that type of information is difficult does not mean that stories of reincarnation become more probable.

Reincarnation and past life recollection is a extraordinary claim and can only be substantiated with extraordinary evidence.

I would like to believe in such things but I am not able to lie to myself because of a want. If something can be explained by the natural world then I can't bring myself to believe a supernatural explanation in its place.

We must first rule out explainable natural explanations before considering the supernatural.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Anyafaj

I am very interested and very skeptical of this subject.

It seems like every time someone has vivid recollections they are always someone of importance. That is what makes it all very suspicious in my mind. Important people are easier to research for those wishing to run a con.

I am not claiming this is a con I am just stating my concerns and why.

The boy being able to recollect an age is something it just isn't something I find strong enough to not be pre-researched.

I watched that movie I-origins and wish there was something substantial like that, though I know that is setting a very high bar so I would settle for something like the boy remembering where he hid something in a previous life to where they could go find it.

Personally I don't entirely doubt reincarnation is possible, I just believe that transfer of memories from one to the other sounds unlikley. Like your "I-Origins" movie reference, there was little to suspect that their was a transfer of memory besides the fear of elevator, yet this was like a born in fear to her, like heights or open water, she did not remember vivid details from her past life like this young boy did.

And yes it always seems like it is someone well known that is reincarnated, however it never is someone truly famous or very known. Maybe the two spirits met in the after life and got to really know eachother and passed on the information in order to try to prove it, idk, either sounds ridiculous to many. I think this case is more evidence for reincarnation because the actor that reincarnated into the boy wasn't that well know and the boy knows a lot of information directly related to the actor.

According to the article the actor died in the mid 60's and now came back in 2005 approx in this little boys. So what happened between the time of death and reentry into this boy? That's what I wonder.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Anyafaj

I am very interested and very skeptical of this subject.

It seems like every time someone has vivid recollections they are always someone of importance. That is what makes it all very suspicious in my mind. Important people are easier to research for those wishing to run a con.

I am not claiming this is a con I am just stating my concerns and why.

The boy being able to recollect an age is something it just isn't something I find strong enough to not be pre-researched.

I watched that movie I-origins and wish there was something substantial like that, though I know that is setting a very high bar so I would settle for something like the boy remembering where he hid something in a previous life to where they could go find it.

Personally I don't entirely doubt reincarnation is possible, I just believe that transfer of memories from one to the other sounds unlikley. Like your "I-Origins" movie reference, there was little to suspect that their was a transfer of memory besides the fear of elevator, yet this was like a born in fear to her, like heights or open water, she did not remember vivid details from her past life like this young boy did.

And yes it always seems like it is someone well known that is reincarnated, however it never is someone truly famous or very known. Maybe the two spirits met in the after life and got to really know eachother and passed on the information in order to try to prove it, idk, either sounds ridiculous to many. I think this case is more evidence for reincarnation because the actor that reincarnated into the boy wasn't that well know and the boy knows a lot of information directly related to the actor.

According to the article the actor died in the mid 60's and now came back in 2005 approx in this little boys. So what happened between the time of death and reentry into this boy? That's what I wonder.

a reply to: Anyafaj

There will be many who try to replace one supernatural explanation for another because there are faiths on the line that people feel the need to reconcile.

I lack faith there isn't much more I can say on that.

I find it even more fascinating that if this is true, this child has had memories from the age of 4 to now, and now the memories are disappearing.

If reincarnation is real then being able to recall past lives must be a rarity so not remembering would be the norm which forgetting would be natural or returning to how things were meant to be.

That is simply my opinion. I have given these subjects much thought before and can talk and theorize on the subject while waiting for something definitive to surface. It is an interesting subject.

Wonder how old the mother is.

Mae West died in 1980, yet she has very similar eyes.
Wonder if she is under 35 years of age.

And people tend to have soul family around them numerous incarnations.

edit to add: really get tired of reading fundamentalist, and in my opinion mostly dishonest fundamentalists, for believe many of them are actually black ops trying to dumb people down. Don't believe in reincarnation. You're very wrong. Didn't take hypnosis to remember 2 past lives, and they weren't on this planet. Completely wrong, but in this day and age, its unbelievable.

Wake up, meditate and ask, who you are, where you've been, what you're doing here and report for duty. Its everyone's responsibility to wake up, there are bodies hitting the ground here and the ISMS are all a part of the plots against humanity by the elite who are doing this horrendous murderous hellzone, and turning a beautiful paradise planet into a hell. So people really should be asking, seeking, praying and meditating from childhood, with just one look at the news. Then the answers start to be given.

seems we have reincarnation for some..some are stranded as ghosts.
hope i dont die and wake up on price is right!!
pick a door.

Ghosts are not always what they seem to be. Some may, as Sleeper has said, get stuck between dimensions because they have to work something out still. But the real issue is "time" because the clock is in your head, and its stops ticking when you die. So, if a person had to stick around and we thought the ghost was there for a hundred years, that may only seem like a week to them. We are not perceptively experiencing time on the same level. That is if it really is a ghost, and not just a shadow of life, like the movie real bleeding through our reality, because i believe we're in a holographic simulation, much akin to entering a movie, only kazillions of years in advance of our technology version.

Infinite progression.

Some are possibly demons, and the same thing about time can be said in the case of those who have seriously harmed others and are very dense gravity, what seems like a long time to us can be much shorter, or a short time longer.

I believe everyone makes it out the other side, but some take longer.

But we've all had many lifetimes.

The article has a lot of tantalizing details, and it isn't a typical case of someone famous...

Ryan was pointing to an extra in the film, a man with no lines that they later learned was bit-actor-turned-agent Marty Martin.

A film archivist had to research the guy to figure out anything about him.

Not only are they Baptists, the father is a police officer, so I think they'd have more to lose than to gain (in their community at least) by going public with it.

The film archivist gave them the name, and they then contacted one of Martin's daughters to ask about his life.

That is when they discovered that 55 of Ryan's statements matched up perfectly with Martin's life - including the street he lived on, how many children he had, how many siblings he had and those aforementioned five marriages.

Probably the best evidence I've seen presented in a reincarnation case.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: borntowatch

Or you're totally wrong and reincarnation is real.

or I am totaly right and reincarnation is not real.
I guess we just roll the dice and see what happens in an afterlife if there really is one.

I want to come back as a Pelican

a reply to: Anyafaj

This story seemed very familiar to me. No, lol, not that I experienced it too. So I did a search and sure enough there was an ATS thread about this last summer. It contains a few more details than in the Daily Mirror's revived story. Link here

a reply to: Anyafaj
Well ain't that something.

But only a fool would want to remember any of there past life's. Let just say it ain't a pretty or a fun experience. Remembering your heart exploding is the least of things which would be on life's many joy rides, or how about that other kid who remembered dying by burning in that other thread, how screwed would you think he would be if that was an actual real thing he would be able to think on every day, and one of countless others.

Ignorance is the modus operandi of not only the world, but of this very real game called life, if it weren't so. Everybody would be quite insane...I mean more so then they are now. You know there is a reason why the so called enlightened ones dont get attached to the things in this world or existence. Its because they want to limit the probability of ending up back here. But hey life is a lesson, you will learn it when your through. So all those happy go lucky new agers out there...Be careful what you wish for.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Anyafaj

I am very interested and very skeptical of this subject.

It seems like every time someone has vivid recollections they are always someone of importance. That is what makes it all very suspicious in my mind. Important people are easier to research for those wishing to run a con.

The past life this boy seemed to recall wasn't of someone famous, but it seemed he got some of the details wrong. That aside, the whole thing is hard to explain if genuine and not some kind of con, but I didn't really sense a con in this case:

The Boy Who Lived Before

Cameron, ever since he was just a toddler, talks about another family he used to live with, called the Robertsons. Cameron knows the names of his previous family, where they lived, and can even describe the house and the landscape of his previous home on the island of Barra, some 200 miles away. But Cameron has never been there. Doctor Jim Tucker, of the University of Virginia, and Cameron's mother travel to Barra with Cameron to find the house, exactly as Cameron described.

This six-year-old boy is called Cameron Macaulay. He is not much different from other boys of his age. What differentiates him from others is that he likes to talk about his "old mum", his former family and a white house standing on the bay. But none of them is related to his current life. The place he is talking about is a place where he had never been in this life and is on the Isle of Barra, 160 miles away from where he is living now. These things make Cameron's mother feel worried.

Cameron spoke about his former parents, how his dad died, and about his brothers and sisters in the previous life. He also said that his "old mum" was the one in his previous life. Cameron believes that he has a previous life and he worries that the family in his previous life misses him. His nursery school teacher told Norma all the things Cameron was saying about the Isle of Barra and how he misses his mummy and his brothers and sisters there.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Now that case is truly interesting and the type of stories that I want to hear far more than ones where people claim to have been famous.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

To add to this - there was the Druse boy who allegedly pointed out his past life's murderer. Not much support on this one, but it's one I read about ages ago.

While I'm not a believer in reincarnation, I find it fascinating.

I am not who posts that many opinions in either in times present, even know, and that known in the future. I just enjoy the opinions that are set for those who seem to be in know.
Give me an example in the Hebrew/christian people that says that it is not possible.

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: Arbitrageur

To add to this - there was the Druse boy who allegedly pointed out his past life's murderer. Not much support on this one, but it's one I read about ages ago.

Yes I see what you mean about "not much support", since they don't even give a name for the boy in the story, referring to him only as follows "When a certain boy became three years old...". Without a name such an account is difficult to verify. The interesting thing about the video I posted is not only do we know who the boy is, but the cameras are rolling as he finds the old house he used to live in, even though he's never been there before.

a reply to: iDope

it's my understanding that we don't reincarnate until the last person that remembered us dies.. we stay alive in their hearts until there is no-one left to remember us, and then we have another go