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originally posted by: JHumm
originally posted by: buster2010
It's not happening in America so why should we go and get our people killed fighting a war that is another nations problem. If the dimwit that made this video is so upset why doesn't he go over and join the fight? People like him are always willing to get someone else killed while he safely sits on his butt far away from the fighting. The dude is nothing but a pro war scumbag.
Well why are we dropping bombs on other countries if it's not happening here in the us? We hear that there is really no threat to the us to be invaded but we are still dropping bombs which do kill a lot of civilians in other countries. And most of the people that we drop bombs on are not a direct threat to the US.
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Puppylove
More than Christian's are being killed tortured and raped by these bastards. Why must they try to make it all about Christians?
Because pointing out that they also murder Muslims would be a bad thing. After all it's kind of hard getting a religious war started when the people see that the people of more than one religion is getting killed.
What we think of as 'collateral damage' is specifically accounted for in the quran.
As a jihadi, you are absolved of the deaths of any innocent people because, if they are not good muslims, good on ya' they go to hell and if they are good muslims, good on ya' they go to heaven.*
* Not a direct quote and frankly, somewhat poorly paraphrased but, that is what it says.
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Puppylove
More than Christian's are being killed tortured and raped by these bastards. Why must they try to make it all about Christians?
Because pointing out that they also murder Muslims would be a bad thing. After all it's kind of hard getting a religious war started when the people see that the people of more than one religion is getting killed.
What we think of as 'collateral damage' is specifically accounted for in the quran.
As a jihadi, you are absolved of the deaths of any innocent people because, if they are not good muslims, good on ya' they go to hell and if they are good muslims, good on ya' they go to heaven.*
* Not a direct quote and frankly, somewhat poorly paraphrased but, that is what it says.
Let's see a link proving this. The Qur'an forbids killing innocent people.
”You may fight “in the cause of God” against those who attack you, but do not aggress. God does not love the aggressors.” 2:190
You shall not kill - God has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand." 6:151
we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. " 5:32
Chapter 9: PERMISSIBILITY OF KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE NIGHT RAIDS, PROVIDED IT IS NOT DELIBERATE
Book 019, Number 4321:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.
Book 019, Number 4322:
It is narrated by Sa'b b. Jaththama that he said (to the Holy Prophet): Messenger of Allah, we kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids. He said: They are from them.
Book 019, Number 4323:
Sa'b b. Jaththama has narrated that the Prophet (may peace be upon him) asked: What about the children of polytheists killed by the cavalry during the night raid? He said: They are from them.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: greencmp
Out of curiosity, and since you speak as an authority both on the Holy Quran as well as Islam, may we ask what your credentials are in that regard?
Have you studied in madrassa with Imams?
Have you studied in American universities?
Have you studied on your own?
... and thank you kindly for your response in advance.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: greencmp
So, no training in Quran or Islam then?
Fair enough, thanks for your answer.
My apologies on the loss of your friends.
In all four gospel accounts Pilate lobbies for Jesus to be spared his eventual fate of execution, and acquiesces only when the crowd refused to relent. He thus seeks to avoid personal responsibility for the death of Jesus. In the Gospel of Matthew, Pilate washes his hands to show that he was not responsible for the execution of Jesus and reluctantly sends him to his death.[7] The Gospel of Mark, depicting Jesus as innocent of plotting against the Roman Empire, portrays Pilate as reluctant to execute Jesus.[7] In the Gospel of Luke, Pilate not only agrees that Jesus did not conspire against Rome, but Herod Antipas, the Tetrarch of Galilee, also finds nothing treasonable in Jesus' actions.[7] In the Gospel of John, Pilate states "I find no guilt in him [Jesus]," and he asks the Jews if Jesus should be released from custody.[8]
originally posted by: Willtell
Obama’s just a weakling quisling going along with some sinister operation.
He is as bad as Pilate in that he does nothing while one of the most evil forces in history are doing what they want to not only Christians but whoever doesn’t believe in their twisted demonic cult
Obama is going down in history as a bad guy for this
People getting burned alive while he goes golfing
The guy is a moral cesspool and without a soul
This is going to get tiresome. I have no interest in coaching you on Islam. Read the book yourself.
Obama's actions in fighting ISIS just are insufficient
This is a humanitarian emergency and his inaction is despicable
Obama is shrinking his duty as a human being, president, and commander in chief.
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: buster2010
Great, you win, there is no problem with Islam.
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Willtell
Obama's actions in fighting ISIS just are insufficient
So bombing them and supplying weapons to the people who are fighting them isn't enough? You just can't wait to get more of our soldiers killed can you?
This is a humanitarian emergency and his inaction is despicable
What inaction? Oh yeah getting Americans killed.
Obama is shrinking his duty as a human being, president, and commander in chief.
Show me where it says that the duty of the President and Commander in chief does it say go fight a war against people that haven't attacked America.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Willtell
What right does Obama have to invade countries at will?
What right does the US have to invade countries at will?
Weren't you guys complaining about Obama's Tyrannical Outlaw Nature just a few minutes ago, and now, he should be the World's Policeman?