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But as for you, in case you have warned someone wicked and he does not actually turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked way, he himself for his error will die; but as for you, you will have delivered your own soul.
When I say to someone wicked, ‘O wicked one, you will positively die! but you actually do not speak out to warn the wicked one from his way, he himself as a wicked one will die in his own error, but his blood I shall ask back at your own hand.
9 But as regards you, in case you actually warn someone wicked from his way [for him] to turn back from it but he actually does not turn back from his way, he himself will die in his own error, whereas you yourself will certainly deliver your own soul.
Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. 7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and the springs of water.”
"He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart." (Proverbs 11:29)
originally posted by: Tangerine
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
We know why you proselytize. But your rights end where ours begin and we don't want to hear it. Of course coming to a bulletin board like this about the topic is an exception. I'm referring to proselytizers who infest forums that are not about religion and proselytize and knock on doors and stop people in public and proselytize. Do you understand the difference? Do you think your rights take precedence over ours?
Or why do we even try ?
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
originally posted by: Tangerine
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
We know why you proselytize. But your rights end where ours begin and we don't want to hear it. Of course coming to a bulletin board like this about the topic is an exception. I'm referring to proselytizers who infest forums that are not about religion and proselytize and knock on doors and stop people in public and proselytize. Do you understand the difference? Do you think your rights take precedence over ours?
Simply put your rights are to let us know you don't want to discuss it, and I have to have the common sense to respect your right, and leave you be. But people change, circumstances change and it flows both ways, I have seen many posts on ATS that have either said I used to be an athiest or I used to a Christian.
A Christian needs to show respect for others even with his mandate from Jesus, for example in the work place, I never engage first, I always let people come to me, once they know that I am a Christian. It has to be on their terms.
It always does for some, for example after they attend a funeral of somebody who died.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Tangerine
Of course, there is no way to know who wants to hear it and who doesn't before you start.
And there are also plenty of times where no one wants to see or here the atheist message either, but we all get to. So, maybe you should just understand that there will be times when you have to see or hear things you'd rather not.
originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Or why do we even try ?
When people say that to me I think back to Noah. He preached for 120 years straight and didn't gain a single convert.
So you're saying you have an inherent right to pound on doors and stop people in public and go into chatrooms and on bulletin boards that are not about religion and proselytize until someone tells you to stop? In other words, you have a right to violate other's rights until they say no? I strongly disagree with that. If people want to hear about religion they know where to find churches, libraries, and websites.
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
[post]originally posted by: Tangerine
So you're saying you have an inherent right to pound on doors and stop people in public and go into chatrooms and on bulletin boards that are not about religion and proselytize until someone tells you to stop? In other words, you have a right to violate other's rights until they say no? I strongly disagree with that. If people want to hear about religion they know where to find churches, libraries, and websites.
It's all about a balanced perspective, yours is vastly different than mine, trying to inform people about what is coming and what they can do about it, is like throwing a drowning man a life preserver, it can't be violating his rights, ever.
But he has the free choice to push it away, thus diminishing his chances of survival. We move on and throw one to the next person drowning in the water. Honestly we try not to hit them in the head when we throw it, but my throws aren't perfect, and they can move at the last second too.
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Or why do we even try ?
When people say that to me I think back to Noah. He preached for 120 years straight and didn't gain a single convert.
And Dumbledore ran Hogwarts.
34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36 and a man’s foes will be those of his own household. 37 He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and he who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it.
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
So many times on ATS people say I don't want to hear it. Or why do we even try ?
Yet for Christians who take the bible and Jesus words seriously, it something they feel compelled to do.