Ebola fears quarantine Air France plane in Madrid

MADRID—Spanish authorities isolated an Air France plane at Madrid’s airport and activated emergency health procedures after one of the passengers was reported to have a fever and shivers in what is being treated as a suspected Ebola case, officials said Thursday.

Ebola fears quarantine Air France plane in Madrid

Here is another case, to be confirmed, but still. This time in spain. I sure hope that it is not Ebola, but I fear that is very well could be.

I think that this is about to spread like wildfire, if cases start popping up all over the globe, we are gonna be in a hurt locker, and fast.

Is it just me or is confining all the passengers in the airplane with the possible carrier risky? What I would do is isolate all of them and wait for symptoms, although I am aware that this is hard to accomplish, I think that most of those passengers likely were NOT in contact with the sick person and aren't infected. But confine them all together and your asking for it!

And if it came from France, I hope they send teams there also as this passenger could have been in contact with other there ( like the attendant that handled his passport for example)

Any thoughts

a reply to: Teye22

You are correct this is what the experts who work on these things say. Quarantine makes things worse for the reasons you state whereas isolation , treating and monitoring halts the spread.

But hey, people with irrational gut reactions screw, sorry rule the world......freudian slip.

Anyone still flying is part if the problem. Just my opinion. What is this compulsion to keep flying?!

originally posted by: Teye22

MADRID—Spanish authorities isolated an Air France plane at Madrid’s airport and activated emergency health procedures after one of the passengers was reported to have a fever and shivers in what is being treated as a suspected Ebola case, officials said Thursday.

Ebola fears quarantine Air France plane in Madrid

Here is another case, to be confirmed, but still. This time in spain. I sure hope that it is not Ebola, but I fear that is very well could be.

I think that this is about to spread like wildfire, if cases start popping up all over the globe, we are gonna be in a hurt locker, and fast.

Is it just me or is confining all the passengers in the airplane with the possible carrier risky? What I would do is isolate all of them and wait for symptoms, although I am aware that this is hard to accomplish, I think that most of those passengers likely were NOT in contact with the sick person and aren't infected. But confine them all together and your asking for it!

And if it came from France, I hope they send teams there also as this passenger could have been in contact with other there ( like the attendant that handled his passport for example)

Any thoughts

Given that the flight was international (Africa to France), then it would have had a flight time of three or more hours. So those passengers would have been effectively in quarantine for that time. All **** is going to break loose if those passengers find themselves infected and have to pay medical bills.

If you look at all the places where people have to touch things - buying or selling snacks from the cabin crew with the trolleys, going to the bathroom and opening/closing doors, moving hand luggage into the overhead compartments, and sometimes moving other peoples stuff out the way, then there are all sorts of opportunities for cross-contamination.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Well, some people have to fly for business purposes.. but I totally agree that the best way to control this all at airlines is to stop flights altogether until containment is somehow obtained.. the impossible thing though , is that if the flights suddenly stop, so do all of the corresponding economies, transport, postal services, you name it.. that's just to name a few..

a reply to: tony9802
Very few really need to fly for business purposes with technology as it is today. Vacations can be postponed for two months or a year. Things can wait...you know, for the good of mankind and all.

originally posted by: Teye22

MADRID—Spanish authorities isolated an Air France plane at Madrid’s airport and activated emergency health procedures after one of the passengers was reported to have a fever and shivers in what is being treated as a suspected Ebola case, officials said Thursday.

Ebola fears quarantine Air France plane in Madrid

Here is another case, to be confirmed, but still. This time in spain. I sure hope that it is not Ebola, but I fear that is very well could be.

I think that this is about to spread like wildfire, if cases start popping up all over the globe, we are gonna be in a hurt locker, and fast.

Is it just me or is confining all the passengers in the airplane with the possible carrier risky? What I would do is isolate all of them and wait for symptoms, although I am aware that this is hard to accomplish, I think that most of those passengers likely were NOT in contact with the sick person and aren't infected. But confine them all together and your asking for it!

And if it came from France, I hope they send teams there also as this passenger could have been in contact with other there ( like the attendant that handled his passport for example)

Any thoughts

There are other new suspected Ebola cases in Spain.

This is one of the items I touched on in my thread today, "Ebola in Western Europe"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Air France passenger had flown from Nigeria to Paris before taking the Air France plane to Madrid.

Your specific thread topic already has two threads in the "Pandemic" forum:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

None of these threads are getting a lot of traffic.

a reply to: stormcell

Was it going to Africa? Flightaware has it as one between Paris and Madrid with a total flight time of 1hr 45mins. The passenger concerned had flown on a plane from Lagos, Nigeria though, which is worrying in itself - Lagos is a megacity of upwards of 21 million people - infection there could spell disaster.

As for Medical bills, as long as they are EU citizens, chances are they have healthcare covered.

a reply to: AuranVector

I tried to use the search but i couldnt find anything so if this has been posted previously, lets continue discussions on the earliest thread

Thanks for pointing this out to me

Mods please delete this duplicate thread

originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: stormcell

Was it going to Africa? Flightaware has it as one between Paris and Madrid with a total flight time of 1hr 45mins. The passenger concerned had flown on a plane from Lagos, Nigeria though, which is worrying in itself - Lagos is a megacity of upwards of 21 million people - infection there could spell disaster.

As for Medical bills, as long as they are EU citizens, chances are they have healthcare covered.

The Air France passenger that was taken for Ebola testing in Madrid, had previously flown from Lagos to Paris before boarding the Paris to Madrid flight.

Nigeria has only had eight Ebola deaths this year. They're boasting they have beaten Ebola in Nigeria.

I think that remains to be seen.

originally posted by: Teye22
a reply to: AuranVector

I tried to use the search but i couldnt find anything so if this has been posted previously, lets continue discussions on the earliest thread

Thanks for pointing this out to me

Mods please delete this duplicate thread

It looks like the Mods just moved your thread to "Pandemics."

I'll give it a S&F as a boost. Maybe it will get more attention than the previous two threads here.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

To halt global travel, especially to the lengths that you are suggesting, would have catastrophic effects on the global economy.

a reply to: kimar

So would a global ebola pandemic.

People can sacrifice their lives, die of horrible diseases, but the economy can't take a rest? A two-month rest? Or maybe even less?

What is it the bankers always tell people living paycheck to paycheck? You should have planned and saved for a rainy day? Well does that not apply to the airlines just as well as to a person?

Ripple effect? Sure. But there's gotta be sacrifice somewhere along the freaking line. Why can't it be shared?

I found this article that seems to contain a little more details. The "shaking" passenger was taken to hospital

everyone escorting her was wearing protective gear apparently! Which is good news....I think
I will go back to finish reading it

[url=http://m.smh.com.au/world/suspected-ebola-case-taken-from-air-france-flight-in-madrid-after-passenger-started-shaking-20141017-117djm.html]link[/ url]

a reply to: ~Lucidity

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that there will be a global ebola pandemic. It isn't even a remote possibility at this point and one would have to have a wild imagination to envision the possibility.

To limit travel in anyway right now would be a disastrous decision.

a reply to: kimar

We could go on all night. To limit it later would be pointless.

The projections are not exactly warm fuzzies. And it's clear what the world is willing to sacrifice. Fungible people and not the almighty dollar.

Nice place, Earth.