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The Islamic State terrorist known as Jihadi John has been tracked by drones flying over the Syrian city of Raqqa – but British Special Forces chiefs fear a ‘kill or capture’ mission there would end in bloody failure, sources disclosed last night.
Reaper drones deployed high above the terrorists’ strongholds are also believed to have identified hostages wearing orange jumpsuits but top brass are thought to have currently ruled out a rescue operation because IS defences are too strong.
Special Forces bosses have advised the Ministry of Defence that a sustained bombing campaign lasting several weeks would be preferable.
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Special Forces bosses have advised the Ministry of Defence that a sustained bombing campaign lasting several weeks would be preferable.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
So apparently drones have tracked the whereabouts of Jihadi John, as well as people in orange jumpsuits believed to be hostages. Big news right?!?! Dont count on a rescue or kill or capture mission though. British special forces chiefs have said that they fear a kill or capture mission would "end in failure". So, first of all, since when are British special forces running the show?
The Islamic State terrorist known as Jihadi John has been tracked by drones flying over the Syrian city of Raqqa – but British Special Forces chiefs fear a ‘kill or capture’ mission there would end in bloody failure, sources disclosed last night.
Reaper drones deployed high above the terrorists’ strongholds are also believed to have identified hostages wearing orange jumpsuits but top brass are thought to have currently ruled out a rescue operation because IS defences are too strong.
Special Forces bosses have advised the Ministry of Defence that a sustained bombing campaign lasting several weeks would be preferable.
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He added that if terrorists looked directly into the sky they could be identified.
The US Air Force has more than 100 MQ-9 Reaper drones at its disposal, though how many have been sent to Syria is unknown.
The drone has a maximum range of 5,300 miles and can fly for up to 32 hours at 207mph.
Its image sensors are inside its nose cone and a ‘Gorgon Stare’ wide area surveillance system, used in missions over Afghanistan, can also be fitted.
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originally posted by: thesmokingman
So apparently drones have tracked the whereabouts of Jihadi John, as well as people in orange jumpsuits believed to be hostages. Big news right?!?! Dont count on a rescue or kill or capture mission though. British special forces chiefs have said that they fear a kill or capture mission would "end in failure". So, first of all, since when are British special forces running the show?
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Top brass say that ISIS defenses are too strong? These "top brass" need to be fired immediately! If they think ISIS is too strong, then I am worried when a real war breaks out...you know, against a real country and real troops, with real equipment? This is all such BS. The jig is almost up guys
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Top brass say that ISIS defenses are too strong? These "top brass" need to be fired immediately! If they think ISIS is too strong, then I am worried when a real war breaks out...you know, against a real country and real troops, with real equipment? This is all such BS. The jig is almost up guys
Special forces rely on stealth. Any incursion would be expected. Sacrificing SAS troops is a non option.
Remember the U.S already failed in a similar op.
So, first of all, since when are British special forces running the show?
I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages?
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: thesmokingman
So, first of all, since when are British special forces running the show?
Since 1815, Captain America.
When the British do regime change, they do it right. Dhofar Rebellion.
Unlike the United Fruit Company and Rumsfeld's Rangers...
Oh; and:
I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages?
You first, soldier.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Top brass say that ISIS defenses are too strong? These "top brass" need to be fired immediately! If they think ISIS is too strong, then I am worried when a real war breaks out...you know, against a real country and real troops, with real equipment? This is all such BS. The jig is almost up guys
Special forces rely on stealth. Any incursion would be expected. Sacrificing SAS troops is a non option.
Remember the U.S already failed in a similar op.
Fair point, however I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages? I mean seriously, how STRONG is ISIS compared to like, 40 countries and all their tech/weapons? Kind of like chess, sometimes you must sacrifice a couple pawns to take down the king.
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Top brass say that ISIS defenses are too strong? These "top brass" need to be fired immediately! If they think ISIS is too strong, then I am worried when a real war breaks out...you know, against a real country and real troops, with real equipment? This is all such BS. The jig is almost up guys
Special forces rely on stealth. Any incursion would be expected. Sacrificing SAS troops is a non option.
Remember the U.S already failed in a similar op.
Fair point, however I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages? I mean seriously, how STRONG is ISIS compared to like, 40 countries and all their tech/weapons? Kind of like chess, sometimes you must sacrifice a couple pawns to take down the king.
The SAS are not pawns. Even if a successful raid was mounted it would not "topple the king".
Sending them on a suicide mission is a non starter.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Top brass say that ISIS defenses are too strong? These "top brass" need to be fired immediately! If they think ISIS is too strong, then I am worried when a real war breaks out...you know, against a real country and real troops, with real equipment? This is all such BS. The jig is almost up guys
Special forces rely on stealth. Any incursion would be expected. Sacrificing SAS troops is a non option.
Remember the U.S already failed in a similar op.
Fair point, however I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages? I mean seriously, how STRONG is ISIS compared to like, 40 countries and all their tech/weapons? Kind of like chess, sometimes you must sacrifice a couple pawns to take down the king.
The SAS are not pawns. Even if a successful raid was mounted it would not "topple the king".
Sending them on a suicide mission is a non starter.
I think you are giving ISIS a little to much credit. Look, point is, this is all a front anyways, ISIS is not the terror orginization that they would like you to believe they are. I guarantee they are no match for the single most powerful military complex in the world...Care to explain exactly how it would be a suicide mission?
originally posted by: thesmokingman
originally posted by: EA006
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Top brass say that ISIS defenses are too strong? These "top brass" need to be fired immediately! If they think ISIS is too strong, then I am worried when a real war breaks out...you know, against a real country and real troops, with real equipment? This is all such BS. The jig is almost up guys
Special forces rely on stealth. Any incursion would be expected. Sacrificing SAS troops is a non option.
Remember the U.S already failed in a similar op.
Fair point, however I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages? I mean seriously, how STRONG is ISIS compared to like, 40 countries and all their tech/weapons? Kind of like chess, sometimes you must sacrifice a couple pawns to take down the king.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
Fair point, however I think that possibly sacrificing a few troops is worth it to possibly save how many hostages?