Turkey sends aid to Gaza with a fleet of warships

I didnt knew where to place this topic, regional politics or ww3... depends

So turkey prepares a fleet of war ships and few others with aid for Palestine. In order to avoid what happened with Marmara ship (israelis invaded the ship and killed 9).
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I could be wrong, but Turkey seems to be one of the few countries in this area that actually seems to consistently do good deeds, and tries to help others. Am I wrong?

a reply to: Catacomb

The only thing turkey does, is to promote islam in eu and they have the vision of mega islam state (like EU) - ottoman, with turkey as a leader...

All countries send aid, but I have to agree that israelis have a bad attitude with the aid. They always take the aid for themselves and they give drops of aid to palestine...As an excuse that the aid may have weapons. Just for the eyes. But I have to say that all countries in mediteranean seas, send aid.

Who gets it, is another matter.

Haha, lets see Israel attack a Turkish warship, That could result in NATO being called to war with Israel.

Here's hoping lol

the link isn't working for me.

take it, I used google translator, it may have grammar problems and mistakes, but you get the point..

R.T.Erntogan sends a fleet into Gaza. This "humanitarian aid" convoy is lead by warships, who organizes the famous "showcase" of MIT in the form of NGO, IHH.

Amid Enterprise Operation Protective Edge carried the Irail to stop attacks carried out by Hamas from Gaza, a "Freedom Flotilla" organized this time in Turkey to provide "humanitarian assistance" in the Hamas-controlled Palestinian coastal pocket with the protection of the Turkish navy, according to information published today by the Israeli Jerusalem Post

The flotilla, is called 'Freedom Flotilla II', and organized by the Turkish Humanitarian Aid Foundation (IHH), the same organization that was behind the flotilla's Mavi Marmara, and tried to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip in May 2010, with the famous bloody results.

Israeli naval commandos boarded the ship, they were attacked and killed nine of their attackers.

To recall that 2010 reportedly from Israel under the R.T.Erntogan had thought sending military escort to protect the "Mavi Marmara"

For the notorious IHH we recall the following: the organization caused uproar in Turkey with the arrest in tourkish-syrian borders on instruction judge who is in opposition to the R.T.Erntogan a load of weapons to Islamists in Syria in carrying the otherwise "special "NGO IHH, which had caused the carnage in Maavi Marmara.

This organization, under the control of MIT course whose official rode in that convoy trucks!

The consignment in question was allegedly seized by the gendarmerie and moved instead for humanitarian aid, weapons and ammunition from Turkey to Syria. What to remember the role of this "NGO"

According to the president of IHH Bulent Yildrim and as stated in the Gulf on line last week the "activists" salparoyn will soon take the necessary permission from the authorities of Ankara that the Turkish army would offer protection to ships!

Diplomatic told told that Jerusalem studying carefully the reports, but said it was not clear if the flotilla will eventually departs from Turkey

So far there has been only a declaration of intent, no date has been set, said an official.

The Harold Rhode, a senior fellow at Gatestone Institute based in New York and a former consultant for the American islamikazitimata YPAM told the Jerusalem Post in an interview Sunday that the real issue is that Turkey and Qatar supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas in their goals.

"[Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip] Erdogan has been associated with the Muslim Brotherhood long before becoming prime minister," said Rhode.

It should now be clear to everyone that Erdogan "is out of the bag," (marginalized) said Rhode, adding that U.S. President Barack Obama speaks with the leader of the Turks now, which in the past described him as one of his closest friends among world leaders.

"Erdogan is doing everything it can to help Hamas," he said, arguing that it would only hurt the Palestinian people in the end.

Second Turkish Gaza flotilla will have military escort, group says

www.haaretz.com...

Now that I think about it, though. This could get really ugly. Real fast...if Israel decides to go ape**** on them.

a reply to: mekhanics

Thanks. So far just speculation as Ankara hasn't approved yet. If it goes through though it will be interesting.

a reply to: Catacomb

There's 2 militaries in the region that can go toe to toe with Israel. Turkey is one of them.

personal comment about what the article tells you... the organization who makes the whole event with the war ships, is an MKO company who belongs in the secret inteligence of turkey MIT... And is the one who transfers guns into syrian borders lol

So I think israelis are going to get angry... lol Thats why I was confused, where to place this topic..

a reply to: Catacomb

Yes and no, imo.

Turkey is the traditional moderator between the East and the Western civilizations.

It being a Muslim country has one leg in the traditional Asiatic culture of Islam, but on the other hand, because of the modernization of the reformer Ataturk in the early 20th century, and its traditional role as mediator of east and west is trying to be a Western country in some regard.

Though, the present leader is somewhat of a more traditional Islamic leader than usual for Turkey, it is still a NATO participant and by no means any kind of Islamist.

Turkey is a loyal NATO ally, and not always nice, believe me. Just ask the Kurds and also their intervention in Syria is something to consider.

Turkey ain't blinking this time. Interesting positioning. You don't send warships unless you are prepared to respond militarily to any attacks on the protected convoy.

You can bet that the Turkish PM is getting an earful from US diplomats right now. Doubt that will change anything though. If this were to play out to the most volatile end, it could cause a fractioning of NATO.

a reply to: Ploutonas

Well, doesn't the US have a close relationship with Turkey? This could get interesting if true...

Turkey have bad relations with USA right now... they may use the whole event to make USA call turkey? lol *not very bad relations, since turkey feeds the ISIL terrorists and ISIL fulfills western interests... lol

u think?

ps: if the link is not working... here is the same news spread in 100s of blogs news in my country.

www.efenpress.gr...
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originally posted by: pirhanna
You can bet that the Turkish PM is getting an earful from US diplomats right now. Doubt that will change anything though. If this were to play out to the most volatile end, it could cause a fractioning of NATO.

IF true maybe this is posturing for entrance to the EU. They've wanted that all along. I can see that. "OK, we'll back off in Gaza and you admit us into the EU. Deal?"

a reply to: intrepid

Turkey...or NATO?

Lets hope it doesnt get to fruition.

originally posted by: pirhanna
Turkey ain't blinking this time. Interesting positioning. You don't send warships unless you are prepared to respond militarily to any attacks on the protected convoy.

You can bet that the Turkish PM is getting an earful from US diplomats right now. Doubt that will change anything though. If this were to play out to the most volatile end, it could cause a fractioning of NATO.

Hopefully all that happens is that the Turkish ships are allowed to give some much needed aid, whether it be temporary shelters, food, water, medical supplies, or whatever. It's pretty horrible what is going on, and I am no proponent of Hamas, but too many civilians are dying.

I don't really know what the answer is, since both sides seem to want to murder the other in their sleep, if given half a chance. The real solution is to have both co-exist, and just finally move on, and forget the past. But, that seems very unlikely to happen.

I wonder just what the USA would do, if Israel attacked the Turkish ships? Honestly, Obama doesn't seem to care all that much for Israel...which is just my impression. So, would the US, and NATO really do anything to Turkey? I think they'd really slam Israel for it, honestly. Most seem to want Israel to stop, at this point.

originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: intrepid

Turkey...or NATO?

Lets hope it doesnt get to fruition.

Turkey's alone is slightly stronger actually.

a reply to: intrepid



I didnt know that Turkey had nukes.


oh yeah, NATO!