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...then we can't prove that energy is not present at any given points in space and time. Thus all of space-time has the probability of being filled with non-zero energy.
Heisenberg demonstrated that one can never prove with full certainty the properties of a particle.
originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: swanne
If we could only invent a thermopile type device that could feed off of different energy densities all the way down to Zero Point and produce usable power.. Not in my life time I would guess but might make a great star drive for a scfi novel ...
A stray thought went by as I remembered plots from various Sci Fi TV shows on Earth. They had talked about the Zero Point Field and I remembered looking it up just out of curiosity. I did not understand much but the concept was fairly simple. Underlying the universe was a field of energy that connected everything together. So instead of drawing energy from everything around me on Winnowaan why not access the underlying field that powered the whole universe. It seemed logical and the theory involved had always made perfect sense, well, to me at least.
I sent out mind vision. Living auras sprang out and I could sense all the life around me. Without thinking too much I simply thought about going down a level. It became instantly apparent to my mind like a vast energy field surrounding me and seeming to extend out to infinity in every conceivable direction. In the middle of the river was a large boulder, a little larger than Lerinth. I surrounded it with energy and then set the energy to ignore gravity. The boulder started slowly moving downstream. It was getting away! I laughed and held it in place with some of the energy. It looked heavy but I decided to try and lift it.
I drew more power from the field, set it under the boulder and pushed with my mind, as hard as I could. The boulder rushed into the sky! I kept watching it until it became difficult to see. Then I had a thought! The old saying came to mind, what goes up, must come down. I tabbed the communicator on the left wrist of my armor and said, “Sophia to Winno, extremely urgent. There is a large flying boulder going up, um, can you make sure it does not hurt anyone when it comes down, sorry, I lost track of it. My bad!” Winno responded, “I am tracking it. It startled me. I just called the Weyr Ship to Battle Stations.
I have a weapons lock but it is not really slowing down. It has escape velocity and is not being affected by gravity. Can you tell me what it actually is please?” I replied, “It is just a nice smooth boulder, um, when it is safe to do so could you perhaps destroy it so it can’t hurt anything in the future, sorry, it got away from me. I was just trying something out. It started out good and then it sort of got out of control.”
Winno replied, “I have passed your request on to the orbital planetary defense satellites, they have it on scanners, weapons are locked and they are firing.” Winno paused for a few seconds and then added, “Sophia, your boulder has been destroyed. Rodene would like to have a chat with you when you return.” I replied meekly, “Yes, I am sure she does. I will return as soon as Lerinth’s meal has settled, um, out.”
I looked at Lerinth and her mind simply burst into laughter. She sent, “Awesome!”
originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: swanne
If we could only invent a thermopile type device that could feed off of different energy densities all the way down to Zero Point and produce usable power.. Not in my life time I would guess but might make a great star drive for a scfi novel ...
originally posted by: swanne
originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: swanne
If we could only invent a thermopile type device that could feed off of different energy densities all the way down to Zero Point and produce usable power.. Not in my life time I would guess but might make a great star drive for a scfi novel ...
But remember that down at the zero point, your thermopile too will have a non-zero level of energy. Since you can get electrical current only from potential difference in energy, to harness exterior zero-point energy you'd need to actually find a way to remove zero-point energy out of your thermopile. This means bending the laws of quantum model so that it stop applying to the thermopile. And even if one did succeed in removing any zero-point energy away from the thermopile, this would in itself require work input (which would defeat the whole point of "free" energy).
Otherwise no potential difference = no voltage.
originally posted by: pheonix358
What Heisenberg demonstrated is only that he could never prove with full certainty the properties of a particle.
originally posted by: stormcell
If only it were possible to use the ZPE in the same way.