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The Spanish word for "church" is iglesia.
When Jesus lived there existed no word for church and the church concept wasn't even developed.
originally posted by: UMayBRite!
a reply to: Akragon
"Called Himself the Son of God."
Actually, He called hinself the "Son of Man".
He did accept the title King of the Jews when questioned by Pilate.
He did say "before Abraham was I AM", which is the 1st person of Yahweh. This
describes His oneness with God. He said to his followers "My Father and your Father",
so He didn't claim a unique status.
Even the angel that announced His birth stopped short, saying He shall be CALLED the son of the
Highest. Theology is complicated.
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: AkragonHe was quoting the Old Testament, talking about Israel's rulers, and Jesus was directing it at the Jewish leaders.
. . . he also said we are all "gods" . . .
So he wasn't saying that "everyone" was gods.
Says who?
We all have the "divine spark" within us...
but I mean someone besides yourself.
If there isn't anyone.....
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: UtnapisjtimThe Spanish word for "church" is iglesia.
When Jesus lived there existed no word for church and the church concept wasn't even developed.
The English word, Church, comes from a late Greek word that means "the Lord's house".
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: AkragonSays who?
We all have the "divine spark" within us...
Obviously you do, but I mean someone besides yourself.
If there isn't anyone, then how did you come to this conclusion?
What is "divine" about this spark, and how does it make you a god.
What are your supernatural powers?
Right, otherwise how would you even know about it.
. . . many of the people who end up going to "hell" or "hades" somehow escape it.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
Back in the 1990s I worked at a Catholic monastery for almost a decade. Volunteering and helping with the Third Order. An old nun explained Hell to me and it made sense. She said that the people in Hell WANT to be there. They hate God so much, and they hate hate hate so much, that they want to be away from the light and the good and God. So even if the metaphorical 'gates of Hell' were thrown wide open and the people were invited out, they'd just stay where they were and complain that you need to shut the door and leave them alone. The people in Hell put themselves there and want to stay there because it's as far away from God as they can get .... They want no part of Heaven.
Anyways .. made sense to me.
But after a trillion years of being punished and tortured, what is the point? And after 10 Trillion years its not enough already? Does ANY human deserve that kind of punishment? Apparently 10 trillion years is not enough. Not even a 100 Trillion years. No, it must be "eternal" and "forever", according to certain interpretations of religion. Anyone with even the slightest sense of justice would find this idea appalling.
The only problem is . . .
Jesus already paid the penalty for humanities sins, God has thrown wide open the gates of heaven all we have to do is choose to enter!
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Skyfloating
But after a trillion years of being punished and tortured, what is the point? And after 10 Trillion years its not enough already? Does ANY human deserve that kind of punishment? Apparently 10 trillion years is not enough. Not even a 100 Trillion years. No, it must be "eternal" and "forever", according to certain interpretations of religion. Anyone with even the slightest sense of justice would find this idea appalling.
Sure, and I do. But have you thought that 'eternal' punishment could simply consist of being frozen in time, in a state of unbelievable pain and misery?
If you wish to escape from this enslavement/addiction (400), you must promise to leave (give, 50-400-50) your addiction to material things (4) and your hanging on to your emotions (40) behind in the world of matter (4) and duality (2). By giving this intention, you will safely surround your slavery (400) with higher awareness (50) and then you can be delivered from this world of slavery. Of course you will have to address the matter of processing these emotions, forgiving others and yourself, letting go of fear, hatred, and judgment, and taking responsibility again for your life, later in the ‘desert’. It is a long process of ‘forty’ years and more.
Abraham takes the knife in order to kill Isaac. The verb is ‘sjachat,’ as I described already before. It is the divine but bitter process (300) that produces the oil (8) to anoint the messiah and gives birth (9) to higher awareness.
The knife is ‘ma’achelet’, 40-1-20-30-400
We find here the verb ‘achal,’ to eat/digest, right in the middle of 40- . -400, ‘met,’ which means dead, but also the world of ego and slavery.
The knife is the process of digesting every last trace of this world, as Jesus did, before being able to leave it and finally ascend. As Isaac does not resist and consciously takes part in this process, it is completed immediately in the story. This is confirmed by the fact that in Gen. 22:12 he is no longer called son, ‘ben’, but ‘na’ar,’ which in other places in the Bible is mostly translated as servant or young man. In this place some of the translations keep to ‘son’ and others say ‘boy’ but they do not see a reason for this change. The reason however is that the character of Isaac has changed by this initiation. He has become ‘na’ar’, 50-70-200, ‘50-er’. He is awake and is ready for the state of higher awareness.
originally posted by: Unity_99
I know what Love is, what its capable of and what isn' t capable of.